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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 01:47:55 PM »
Check for all of the 1-star [worst] ratings that Nikon is getting from buyers of the D600 and D800.

I often read Amazon reviews, but you have to forget about 5-star ratings ("everything is great! I'm the next employee of the month in viral marketing!") and 1-star ("I couldn't find the power switch" or "I was too dumb to read the specs!").

So I just had a look at German Amazon 6d & d600: The few factual complaints about the 6d were the known weak specs, and about the d600 concerning the oil smeared sensors - but overall both rated very positive, because of course both are excellent cameras if you ignore the "value" and "is it worth it" aspect.

EOS Bodies / Re: Too early to sell 60D?
« on: February 21, 2013, 12:53:43 PM »
Normally, I don't like to buy the latest/greatest until it has had a bit of time on the market to iron out bugs and such, but I am sick of the ISO performance of the 60D and can't afford to go to a Mk3 and I have no interest in the 6D.

That leaves you with one option: win the lottery. If you are really that limited by the current 18mp sensor, even if using all the available tricks like fast lenses and ettr then the next higher mp sensor won't satisfy you either. The real question with aps-c is always: What's the final export size, and if it's not 100% then you can get away with higher iso - the dynamic range of the 60d is just mostly like 6d or 5d3.

But more on topic: Canon hasn't even *announced* the 70d or 7d2, and given Canon's latest track record it might be a while afterwards until worldwide availability, not to mention the usual €200 early adopters premium that is lifted after 2-3 months.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 12:33:33 PM »
Canon actually markets the 6d as an entry level landscape camera...for 2k.

Sure, because for landscape you don't need af at all :-)

One cross point.>:( :( :o Even the 650d has 9 cross points. Wither, canon.

This is when I usually mention that the 6d has no (0, zero) cross points at f2.8 but just a non-cross overlay over a less precise cross sensor. The whole af system seems to be a 99% copy from the 5d2 with two more points added in the gaps, saving Canon development cost and time.

I really hope the pressure from Nikon forces Canon to get a grip again, and the Canon CEO already stated in the recent interview that the 7d2 won't be just the 7d with better specs - so I'm still waiting for the real news.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 21, 2013, 01:40:48 AM »
D7100 in the mix: -- let's take a quick first look

Esp. with the crop mode from aps-c the 24mp d7100 will be a budget sports/wildlife shooter's dream, looking at Canon's latest innovations I somehow doubt that they'll put something equivalent in the 7d2 but more likely they'll try keep selling their tele lenses :-o

1.3x Crop Mode - Sports photographers take note: Building upon the telephoto benefits of the DX-format, the D7100 has the unique ability to shoot in a 1.3x DX crop mode for both stills and HD video. While in this innovative mode, shooters will gain an extra telephoto boost (2X), and a boost in burst speed to seven fps, with 15.4- megapixel resolution. Additionally, while in this mode, the 51-point AF array covers more of the frame, allowing improved subject acquisition and tracking performance through the viewfinder.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 01:36:41 AM »

Yes, it's more a 70d (my guess $1400+, iif it even exists) equivalent ... but disappointing? For $1200?! Starting Price! This is so economical I first thought it would be a typo - probably that's why Canon will expand the ff route like their CEO recently said, more money to be made in the high-end enthusiast's segment. The only positive news for Canon: The d7100 will be sold out for months, so Canon will have some time to counter.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 12:49:03 AM »

There's some more detailed information here:

New 51-Point AF System - The D7100 features Nikon’s professionally proven and lightning-fast 51-point AF system, with a new Multi-CAM 3500DX AF module. Additionally, the AF system and exposure are augmented with Nikon’s 3D Color Matrix Metering II 2,016-pixel RGB sensor and Scene Recognition System, which recognizes the scene prior to shooting in order to adjust AF, AE, AWB and other parameters. The results of this system are accurate and even exposures, sharp details and vivid color, frame after frame. For additional precision, 15 of the 51 AF points are cross-type, and the center point is functional at f/8, giving DX photographers an additional telephoto advantage when using a teleconverter.

So f8 af and rgb metering? Let's see if Canon will put these 1dx-features in the 7d2... but the really interesting point driving the water to may eyes (7d2 estimated >$2000...):

The Nikon D7100 will be available starting in March 2013 for the suggested retail price (SRP) of $1599.95* with the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 VR lens or $1199.95 for the body only configuration.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 07:56:49 PM »
I wouldn't go around stating these specifications as fact, but I wouldn't simply discount them off-hand either. It's a rumor, and its a pretty decent one...the best we have at the moment.

The question is how the internal Canon decision hierarchy is - it'd be interesting to know, but of course no one will tell. I guess the final say on the gear to be produced is either made by accounting (estimated profit, i.e. mainly production cost flavored with some marketing thoughts) and/or by the top execs if it's a strategic decision.

The recent interview about the 7d2 might let us hope that Canon tries to make a big splash this time to make up for the recent lack of user's enthusiasm, so the 7d2 might really come out with a lot of features at a "reasonable"  price - but then again it might just have been a decoy to gain time because Canon is behind in the sensor race.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 20, 2013, 07:19:15 PM »
I love the marketing.... "a blazing fast 6 frames per second"

The real question with Nikon is usually if the highest fps only persists for the first few frames and then changes to crawl-mode (this is the case with the original d7000 and the d600) or if the buffer is deeper this time. So not to defend Nikon, but 6 continuous(?) fps with 24mp(!) in raw(?) mode imho would qualify as fast, it's the data rate vs fps that matters.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 20, 2013, 06:50:38 PM »
Building on
the acclaimed autofocus system from the D300s, the D7100 uses 51 focus points, including 15 cross-type sensors
for detecting both vertical and horizontal contrast variations, to achieve fast, precise focus.

51 focus points and 15 cross? Bah, only Nikon sissies need that, real photogs use 9/9 (60d) or 11/1 (6d) for an added challenge :-p

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 06:39:22 PM »
Only a small number of people in Canon know whether the 6d is "popular" as far as meeting expected sales figures.  And a similar small number know whether the "underwhelming" view of the 6D is just from crazed internet forums or actually the view of the camera buying public at large.

Since it is obvious we don't have that data (I guess even Canon doesn't have a representative overview on the worldwide opinion in different buyer segments on the 6d) I was talking from my personal perspective - and according to the initial reactions to the 6d (mine included) there shouldn't be anyone out there buying it, but obviously a lot of people are nevertheless (me included :-)).

For example, I think the 60D was under-speced, with the deletion of MFA a big mistake.

I also though so but stood corrected - removing afma from the 60d was a very smart move by Canon, lots of people bought the more expensive 7d.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 06:04:29 PM »
How harmful would it be for them to pay a small team of photo nerds to surf the web all day and find out what buyers want?
Because people posting in forums are not necessarily buyers, or at least there is hardly any connection between internet opinion and sales, the latest example is the underwhelming but popular 6d.

What happens if you ask buyers about what they want you can as well file for bankruptcy right away like when Homer's brother let him design a car:


Good news that Canon acknowledges the problem (no, the people who reported this obviously were not paranoid) and even promises to fix it - though we still have to see how the fix turns out and if it's the same on 1dx/5d3 (remember the af servo indicator...).

And imho still underwhelming for Canon to take a year for this while they marketed the 5d3 as ideal for shooting in just the problematic the circumstances, but better late than never :-o

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 05:26:28 PM »
If you want the best information available, CR (the site, not necessarily the forum) is pretty much the place.

Ok, I can subscribe to that view :-)

I don't have anything new to add, but rumor has it (haha!) that Canon is not entirely oblivious to items on this website.

Where did you get this rumor from - CR :-> ? I think the decisive Canon people are in Japan and a small circle of execs (like the CEO in a recent interview) and maybe some tech people, and I would be very surprised if any information from places like this would reach them - most likely they rely on their internal marketing studies and some direct feedback from cps professionals and beta testers.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 04:12:01 PM »
CanonRumors is the best place, really. Anything with a CR2 is pretty good information.

Are we reading the same site :-p ? Imho the CR forum is nice because a lot of knowledgeable photogs are around, but CR0 is a joke, CR1 is "your guess is as good as mine", CR2 is "that doesn't sound *that* improbable" and CR3 is "I've been told about tomorrow's press release" ...

... Canon is simply very secretive and doesn't leak anything, and except for some posts of beta testers there is no telling what will be next - as a rule of thumb if something appears to make sense from an enthusuast's perspective it most likely isn't what Canon will do.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 01:35:52 AM »
Is really hard to maintain a good ISO performance AND sharpness on a 24MP APS-C sensor.

Imho these things have nothing to do with each other, unless the manufacturer decides to hide iso noise problems with forced noise reduction resulting in a sharpness loss - other than that iso performance is just a sensor feature, and so far Canon doesn't have the edge on the competition.

Sharpness can be impaired by a strong aa filter against moire (like on the 5d3), but mostly it's dependent on the lens - and starting with 24mp many people with cheaper or older lenses will be up for a disappointment because their lens is outresolved by the sensor, for example my 17-40L wouldn't take much more than 18mp on aps-c.

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