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A few days later Canon called me back, confirming that the camera was from Singapore and that the serial number on the body was indeed fake.

Well, to be honest, what does a name like "Tronixcomputers" selling high-end dslrs tell you :-o ?

But if I understand correctly it was at least a "legit" grey asia import? But even if wasn't stolen, I'd say this conduct is fraud and criminal and you could try to let the police handle it.

EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:19:21 PM »
[Marsu said lots of good stuff.]

I'll bookmark that quite for my history yearbook :-)

That's why a 'flagship-level crop body' is such an odd, odd duck.

Is it? We don't know what marketing Canon will attach to the 7d2, all-around premium crop or specialized machine gun.

To their credit, their marketing is more often more spot on than people imagine, for example they clearly sell the 6d as a tourist landscape camera in their leaflet I got at the cps - according to this, the mediocre af has to be excused. With the 7d2, they'll probably not imply it's good for low-light shooting (or high-shutter tele).

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pablo Escobar, Canon Shooter
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:14:19 PM »
Did the drug lord really shoot Canon, or is it just a movie prop?

I wouldn't know, but I do know just because you're a mass-murdering bastard doesn't mean you cannot acquire good taste along the way :-o. The interesting question is: If you've really got so much money to spend, what would you buy? Leica?

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:11:30 PM »
It's a problem, sure, but if you shoot landscape, it's not an issue if you know how to properly exposure blend.

I'm not much of a landscape photog, but in my limited experience it's surprising how many parts of the nature move if you look at them @20mp 100% crop. Of course pasting another exposure of sky over a landscape is easy and there are good programs to do exposure blending for you. But if low- and high dr parts get intertwined like sun through leaves, it gets tricky - or am I mistaken?

EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:07:33 PM »
Because everything else on this spec list is pretty solid

And it'd better be, this is a hilarious amount of money for a crop camera that will be outgunned iq-wise by every cheaper ff out there. Remember that the alternative to spending this amount of €€€ for a camera body is to buy a (better) lens... what will show more in the resulting shots?

Unless you're really a focal-length limited sports or wildlife photog who wants a sealed machinegun-mirror (and accompanying sound!) the 6d is something a lot of people will consider even if its af is mediocre at best.

Partly it's high expectations, but partly it's the reality that Canon cannot hit every variable out of the park.  'Over the moon' would imply that the camera -- top to bottom -- checks off all of your boxes.

Canon has to blame themselves that such a timespan 7d1->7d2 will generate unrealistic expectations like a "mini 1dx". But really, they're around for making profit and not giving away x-mas presents. If a camera below the premium model would check all boxes, their marketing div. would have failed.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70D Buffer speed
« on: September 12, 2014, 09:24:32 AM »
But the buffer max's out at 15 shot even using a 600x SD card.

I didn't look it up, but the bottle neck will be the sd card interface - for example on the 6d it's only 20mb/s, no matter(!) how much faster the card is. So if the internal buffer is smaller than on the premium models - as it's supposed to be, Canon wants to sell the 7d2 - there is little to hope for even with an updated fw. Imho 20x 20mp raw isn't that bad, btw.

EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 12, 2014, 09:22:00 AM »
The question is how long will it take for Magic Lantern to run on dual DIGIC 6 ?!

My usual estimation is one year from the time a competent ML dev has the camera and puts a lot of time into it, of course for free. Which might not happen at all. Look at the 70d thread in the ML forum: Even with a sponsored 70d, there is little progress. Bottom line: If you want ML, get a camera that runs it right now.

The 7D development is taking  along time to reach the next stable Version.

There will be no more stable labeled stable, ML is now a rolling release - nightly is the "new stable".

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Do you need a really high ISO?
« on: September 12, 2014, 08:00:08 AM »
Above 12800 ISO the 5DIII gets critical at least for my standards (others may have other requirements).

No surprise, iso 128k on the 5d3 is just 6400 with a digital push - you can simply underexpose the latter to get the same result.

Although the 1dx very like uses about the same sensor gen as 5d3/6d, the premium model's image pipeline if much more fine-tuned (see the dynamic range curve 5d3/6d vs 1dx). The pipeline several analog and digital stages, and the Magic Lantern devs are currently working on backporting this to the lesser cameras. The first result is a (internal beta) module that boots your dynamic range by about 1/3-1/2 stop, just like that. Canon only bothered to put that much work into the 1d.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 02:30:38 PM »
I've got both. They each have their places. Canon 7D will probably have little effect on potential 6D sales regardless of pricing. Two completely different rigs.

Indeed, just as Canon likes it: What's better than a camera sale? Two camera sales.

Photography Technique / Re: POLL: Do you crop (and why)?
« on: September 11, 2014, 02:27:17 PM »
Surveys are tough, but they do give useful results and generate some good discussion for sure!

I don't know if I mentioned it, but I've studied Sociology (like in 5 years university, diploma (above the nowadays "master") and all). And most of my studies were empirical social research: designing surveys, pulling data from 3rd party panels, composing composite variables and computing with SPSS. This left me rather critical of the validity of *any* quantitative studies because no matter how you design them, you're introducing biases left and right in any case. Of course we scientists usually don't say so, it's generating our income after all :-p

Unless you triple-check the internal validity, compare with other studies (external validity) and the whole thing fits into a theory (construct validity) it's hit-or-miss anyway, so I'm not hindered by simplicity. Imho you can only be confident about results if combined with qualitative aspects and even hermeneutics. But few people are able to do all these together. And even if, nobody is willing to pay for such extended research. But don't be deterred, I'm sure your survey will result in some numbers you can transform into nice diagrams :->

Photography Technique / Re: POLL: Do you crop (and why)?
« on: September 11, 2014, 01:58:22 PM »
Sorry to criticize another poll of yours Marsu, but the only answer anyone should reasonably give is - it depends.

With these kind of quick polls having members do some drive-by voting, you have to reduce complexity. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because if adding complexity, big explanations and disclaimers you're also introducing a bias as many people will simply ignore the whole thing.

But I keep tweaking these polls, this time at least I've added more options than usual and multiple votes. For example I voted "no: max. resolution" and 2x "yes: ..." to cover my personal "it depends" list. The question is if we can get any valid or interesting information out of these polls, and I reckon we can.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 01:54:35 PM »
Not picking on you Marsu, because your basic point about what people care about is valid, but I am pretty tired of claims that Canon sensors are "mediocre," which is one of the more mild terms used.

I was talking of the relative position of Canon's tech in today's digital camera sales. As I keep pointing out, the whole package counts and in absolute terms it's certainly "good enough"...

... but: Canon has less resolution, more pattern noise and less dynamic range at lower iso. It has catches up on higher iso and has even a bit better dr, but that's still 3:1 for the competition which qualifies as "mediocre" in my book. It doesn't need giving in to trolls to admit to that and keep on shooting happily ever after.

EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 11, 2014, 12:17:08 PM »
I remember when the 6D specs came out and people lambasted the 6D because it had fewer MPs, worse build quality than the 5DII, etc.  Once people had a chance to try out the 6D, then they changed their minds and raved about its advantages over the 5DIII (less noise, -3EV center point senitivity, etc.).

Certainly not me :-p ... for what it's worth, I think the 7d2 is a much better upgrade over the 7d1 than 5d2->6d was. And because it's Canon premium crop model, it might be spared the usual fw crippling like removing spot af 7d->70d.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 12:13:44 PM »
I've got no experience with an intervalometer. What is it exactly?

Go, Magic Lantern, Go :-) ... you don't need a 7d2 for that, a Rebel 550d+ will do just fine.

I see the 7D II getting the 70D's APS-C sensor as a sign that Canon hasn't changed their M.O.

Like "don't rock the boat and make as much profit with as little investments as possible"? True.

If they didn't already use a new fab and new technology for the 7D II (which was significantly delayed and gave then plenty of time to do such a thing), then there is no reason to believe they have done anything with their sensor design or fabrication at all.

I admit you've lost me there - the 7d2 specs are no indication for anything concerning the 5d4 and no reason against believing they have a real sensor upgrade in the pipeline.

However 7d2 is proof that Canon stays Canon and they don't cave in (as they'd probably see it) building/using new fabs even under pressure from Nikon/Sony. They are doing just fine with good dslrs featuring mediocre sensors and good phase af systems, at least atm. If they add a stellar live view af and good usability, what amount of people outside geek forums really care about dr (dr. what)?.

EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 11, 2014, 12:06:17 PM »
Marsu -- Agree.  To try to do this without waves of questions to vet the usefulness vs. the value vs. the excitement vs. the fanboyism is a fool's errand, but I thought I'd try.

Well, you should have been more precise when posting the poll options as in "In general, I am excited about the list of specs because they're so good" :->

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