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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 05:30:57 PM »
I didn't look into the d750 specs and I'm not in the market for one, but you do notice that the full-fledged 5d3/1dx af array is only available with some select new and expensive lenses?
Yeah, new and expensive lenses like the EF 50mm f/1.8 II and the EF 35mm f/2, both from 1990 and one of them costing just over $100. I guess you didn't look into the 5DIII/1D X specs much, either.   ::)

LOL, you've made your point - I can use the full 1dx af array with a 50/1.8 ;-)

My point is: popular lenses like 24-70L1/2.8, 100mm macros/2.8 aren't group A - other popular budget choices like the 400/5.6 have a lot less cross-points which is about on par with the d750. Thus general statements are difficult with the Canon system while Nikon really just depends on the max. aperture up to 11 cross points at f8 (5d3: 1 (one)).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 04:55:40 PM »
Anything f/2.8 and faster.

The 5d3? Nope, urban legend, the lens' max. aperture is only part of it. Look at the lens groups in the 1dx or 5d3 manual.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 04:30:34 PM »
From my viewpoint with a background in marketing, Canon is undoubtedly far better equipped to research and determine what the market wants than any individual posting on this forum.  They have global assets and access to market trends throughout the world.  Do any of us?  I hardly think so.

Indeed, that's why I find any claims about what the majority wants around here somewhat lacking.

However, global research *capability* doesn't equal actually following the long-term implications if it has short-term drawbacks. Wasn't Kodak undoubtedly equipped to research and determine what the market wants? Wasn't Nokia? And look what happened to them.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 04:26:23 PM »
Focus ability?  The D750 has 51 AF points with 15 cross type sensors.  The 5D3 has 61 with 41 cross type sensors and they all work perfectly, even in low light.  How is the D750 better?

I didn't look into the d750 specs and I'm not in the market for one, but you do notice that the full-fledged 5d3/1dx af array is only available with some select new and expensive lenses? The other lens groups quickly degrade the af capability into something much less appealing, though even the worst 5d3 lens group is better than the 6d :-p

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 04:13:15 PM »
Just lower the price on the 6D. (IMO it's over-priced anyway.)

I'm with you there, but that's purely from a consumer point of view. Canon has to generate their profit from somewhere, not just to make their shareholders happy, but to finance upcoming r&d. If they cannot cash in on legacy tech like the 5d2=6d, and the high-end market isn't high volume, what's left?

Canon (and Nikon) needs to consolidate and reinvent their photography business, as in right now.

But who *is* Canon or Nikon? Their workforce? Their devs? Their management? Their shareholders? Any hint of upcoming large investments into r&d would drive their quarterly reports into the ground or generate a mandatory shareholder warning. Any CEO ack'ing such action wouldn't be around for long. Large companies aren't driven into bankruptcy because their people are stupid, but because that's how the stock system works.

The year is 1987. Just three years previously Canon spent gazillions promoting their FD system by being an official sponsor of the Olympics. Now (in 1987) the FD system is dropped and replaced with the incompatible EF system.

True enough - but could they really do it again in this day and age? Any major system change would open up the option to jump ship for a lot of customers who hold on to Canon because of former investments. But now, there are more alternative options around than 30 years before.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 04:05:15 PM »
Odds are they will run their older production lines as soon as they can sell these sensors.
that statement makes no sense.

I admire the skillfull argumentation on your side. Would you care to elaborate further?

If you'd be the Canon CEO, you'd close down every older production line as soon as a new tech is available that cannot be implemented as an in-place upgrade? Well, you're company wouldn't be in business for long :-)

Btw: Is it just me, or are fewer and fewer people actually attempting to have a civilized conversation around here? If it continues this way, I hope Canon won't release anything new for the next years as any new release seems to legitimize rudeness.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 03:54:33 PM »
The 7DII uses significantly more advanced processes than canon's prior generation of sensor.  odds are they won't take nearly as long to produce other variations of it.

Odds are they will run their older production lines as soon as they can sell these sensors. Canon is an enterprise directed at maximizing profit, not delivering the latest tech to all market segments asap. There's a reason why they kept putting in variations of their 18mp sensor into practically everything...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7D MK II with EF 180 mm F/ 3.5 L MACRO
« on: November 24, 2014, 03:50:30 PM »
Yes, The more I use this 7D MK II, the more I love this Baby, special with Macro Lens = Super sharp

Thanks for sharing - can you post a full res jpeg or are these already cropped to 100% magnification?

These flowers are definitely a tough call for a crop sensor (bare green and red gradients), and I'd say the rendition has definitely improved from what I know from my 60d. And I'm an outspoken fan of using crop for macro.

However, I feel the 7d2 is wasted on this. If you want top notch iq for gradients like this, there's no way around full frame - look at the transition from dark color to black. If you want sharpness with depth of field, do focus stacking at the lens' sharpest f stop. But you need tethering with the 7d2 as Magic Lantern doesn't run on it.

I know the 7d2 tests show improved sharpness, but I dare to doubt this translates in much of a difference in real world macro shots - it'd be interesting to see a 1:1 comparison here with the 70d or 60d.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 03:21:33 PM »
More importantly, Canon will likely release its upgrades when it feels there is a demand as well as have a product they think meets that demand

That's not the only aspect. Outside the Rebel disposable cameras Canon protects their customer's investment by not obsoleting it by random market force. Take that, Nikon d610 after d600.

The reason why I bought my 6d a year ago is that I knew they wouldn't release an updated 6d2 soon. If it wasn't for this trust, the money would still be in my pocket and not with Canon's shareholders.

I am giving it until the end of the first quarter next year to see if there is another sensor to compete with the Nikon d810 and if not, I am selling all my Canon gear.  I love landscape and I am disappointed in the lack of dynamic range.

You're blatantly ignoring the considered opinion of a lot of Canon experts: If you cannot make do with what Canon currently offers, there's something wrong with you and/or your photography.


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Video & Movie / Re: Canon 6D - RAW and stabilizer test
« on: November 24, 2014, 02:20:20 PM »
Hope you enjoy it, and please leave a comment or critique if you do since I am pretty novice at both editing and grading :)

Congrats on getting that working, shooting raw with the 6d is a pita not only because of the cropped picture, but because of the slow sd card interface. Unfortunately, this makes all 6d sample raw videos I saw look kind of similar - a succession of short clips with ambient music. Did you shoot .raw or .mlv?

As to the grading: I don't do video and don't like like over-grading, but probably fancying heavy post ops comes with playing around with the software. To /me as a simple viewer, this looks like the tint is off. It could be my monitor, but the greys look magenta - or is this a desired artistic effect?

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Reviews / Re: Bryan Carnathan has completed his review of the 7D Mark II
« on: November 24, 2014, 02:08:47 PM »
Gallop: This depends on the horse's condition and athletic ability.

From what I shoot, I can tell that the perceived speed also depends on if you're standing, kneeling or lying in the line of the horse's path or not :->

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Lenses / Re: Help me decide: should I buy an EF 135L
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:13:27 AM »
I am afraid that the 135mm FL will be a bit too long for interior shots on APS-C (I find the 100L Macro too long most of the times...)

I imagine the 135L is a terrific lens at a great price - but it's not on my shopping list because it duplicates with the 100L too much. One advantage of the 135L is the faster af vs. the macro lens, esp. in lower light.

If you find the 100L too long already obviously the 135L isn't what you're looking for, most people seem to buy it for portraits on full frame or to get a *long*, fast lens for indoor sports.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Switching to Full Frame
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:07:49 AM »
I think its stupid to switch to Nikon.

Reading something like this really makes you wonder why discussions tend to get heated around here ...

Don't switch because of the sensors. If you switch because of the lenses (because Canon/Nikon don't simply have the lenses you need), yes than you can switch.

Do switch because of the future outlook though. Nikon is pursuing a more aggressive pricing policy, and their features vs. price ("value") tends to be better nowadays. If you have the opportunity now and about to exchange lenses anyway, the newer d750 seems to be a very competitive vs. the older 5d3.

Canon has Magic Lantern, but unless you want/need that most 3rd party flashes and lenses are available for the major systems - and there is a growing amount of excellent off-brand gear from Tamron, Sigma, ...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7DMKII Focus keeper rate ideas?
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:01:37 AM »
I've found that shooting one shot mode at a piece of typewritten paper in direct sunlight 50mm f1.4 I can expect maybe 7 or 8 out of 10 in focus at 100% (admittedly the 50mm 1.4 isn't razor sharp at that aperture) Is this to be expected?

Af performance is a combination of camera body and lens, and choosing the old 50/1.4 which doesn't even have a real ring usm isn't your best choice there.

Is it normal to think that at casual print sizes, maybe even upto 13X19, the oneshot AF is OK, but if I want to pixel peep or print bigger I'm better off MF with live view?

Yes, Live view or precise/trained mf (with a viewfinder screen that allows you to see the dof) is your best bet and won't have the jitter of phase af that only has split seconds to make the decision. Note that for other cameras LV with focus peaking (Magic Lantern) is a tremendous help, but it's not available on the 7d2 (yet, if ever).

I went to the trouble of doing the test after I found it extremely difficult to get the iris/pupil in focus consistently. In fact with my kids I seem to get better results with AI Servo. Any tips there?

The actual focus point might be larger than what your vf shows, so getting pupils in focus that are a bit behind the eyebrows and cheeks is a challenge with thin dof.

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Photography Technique / Re: Would electrical tape damage the red ring?
« on: November 24, 2014, 01:50:41 AM »
I would have to apply some pressure about right on top of the cracks above and below the focusing ring, and some alcohol would definitely be released into the crack as a result.  Any chance that the alcohol could harm anything within the lens?

I would think so, that's why I advised to prevent tape adhesive getting in these cracks in the first place... for the rest of the plain metal/plastic area, a bit of alcohol has worked for me.

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