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Do you mean a +3ev shadow push in post?

No, +3ev beyond Canon's acceptable (ymmv) range - but I can't really tell about exmore as I'm using the 16bit raw files from ML that have more shadow resolution.

Nature moves a lot...in <0.5s...across the entire frame...thereby defeating a manual blend?

Of course you can manual blend a lot, but that doesn't count as "easily circumvented" as speculated above. How bad small movement is of course depends on the export/view size, but in my experience when doing a 2x bracket with there's simply double the chance that something moved or happened in the scene. I'm not much of a landscape photog, but I know this can happen in nature macro.

How often are you shooting a scene with more luminance range then Canon can handle...but not more then Exmor can handle...with close up foliage...and with wind so heavy that HDR or blending is impossible? Seriously, how many shots per year are we talking here?

A 3ev difference is in my experience often just the range you need to prevent clipped sky while retaining good shadow resolution. And the nature moves a lot, esp. if you look at 100% crop. If you doubt it, get out more :-> ... then you'll see it doesn't take heavy storms to make leaves and grass move noticeably. Are you watching closely ("The Prestige")?

HDR tools also have features to compensate for motion.

... that is like in *unidirectional* motion esp. from camera shake, or otherwise I'm not up to date and the latest hdr assembly softwares have managed to de-blur moving clouds, grass or leaves in the wind :-\

but the result is pretty horrible. WFIW I don't do HDR anymore.

This is a good example why hdr "flat" tonemapping doesn't replace artificial lighting - at some compression level, it simply doesn't look real anymore even if there would be more contrast in it.

Keep 'em coming people, show that you're brave enough to stand by your early creations :-)

EOS Bodies / Re: Scott Kelby Does a Field Report on the EOS 7D Mark II
« on: October 11, 2014, 10:20:48 AM »
if you want to shoot sports and wildlife and can't afford the 1DX, this is the camera that you should consider
To reach that conclusion, it probably doesn't require a review by a renowned photog :-p
Right... and Canon is just going to let no-name people evaluate their preproduction units...

Ok, let me clarify: To reach that conclusion it doesn't require a review at all, it's really rather advertising.

I didn't think the house itself was bad, but the sky (setting sun) looked odd to me.

In my experience, with these auto-tonemapped hdr shots it's quite easy to get the sky colors looking really strange - as proven by you :-)

how about this beauty?

Thanks, excellent entry :-> ... for a tonemapped shot, the darks are still rather dark (= it could have gotten even uglier), but the post-nuclear war sun is really something!

EOS Bodies / Re: Scott Kelby Does a Field Report on the EOS 7D Mark II
« on: October 11, 2014, 07:11:22 AM »
if you want to shoot sports and wildlife and can't afford the 1DX, this is the camera that you should consider

To reach that conclusion, it probably doesn't require a review by a renowned photog :-p

I'm with you on this, RLPhoto.  Any perceived/imagined DR "problem" is all too easy to work around.

Oh my, we're going full circle, aren't we? Just as I thought even the fiercest dr antagonists seem to conclude that for some applications (think "noon beach volleyball") 11ev or 14ev dr might make a real difference, it's back to square one with everything "easy to work around" :-p

When it comes to wildlife and birds, I believe we must separate between amateurs and pros. I am an amateur and my photography is partly an excuse to be out in nature, partly to succeed in my hunt for a specific animal/bird and partly to try to be as good as some of the pros. I take great pride in an image from time to time. I believe Edward (eml58) is in a similar position, given that he is not trying to sell his images, he just shoots more spectacular ones than the rest of us.

It's good to hear so many people feel there are plenty of opportunities left to create something new and unique, even if it doesn't happen very often.

I admit that my post was bing written a bit as advocatus diaboli, but at least for fireflies that I shoot 1-2 times a year I still find it difficult. You get some shots that are really good, focus spot-on, terrific framing, everything's peachy - and then back home when researching for the name of the animal you find shots with double the resolution and double the lens' (price) right there on wikipedia :-p

For everything else that's a bit more mammal-like (or can appear that way) it's easier to picture emotions, stories and relationships that go beyond the simply visual/tech aspect of the shot (like in: "smooth bokeh").

I don't see how that can be interpreted as having backfired.

It has if he doesn't perceive it as learning, but as frustration and stops further learning by giving up on it altogether. No all people are dslr enthusiasts, if you're busy with another job and just do the photog thing in between your tolerance for a steep learning curve is only so large. Esp. if there's nobody around what you're doing wrong in the first place.

Interesting thread though (after all, I started it :-p) - there seems to be a large distinction between sports/... photogs who rely on top gear and the rest, and many of those of who say it would have mattered started off in the dark ages of digitial photography. Nowadays, imho "just" getting a crop 70d, d7100, whatever doesn't mean certain doom for all shots taken with it when viewed back from 2020.

There were close to 14 million dSLRs sold last year.  How many of those people do you think know what low ISO DR is, much less care about it?

I don't know, that's why I'm not putting up figures.

I do know that I though dr was not a big issue (well, far less than iso noise anyway) until I started shooting with the 14.5+ dr of Magic Lantern. Only then I realized how often some part of my old 60d shots was clipped because I couldn't ettl it w/o losing to much iq. With the 6d shadow noise has certainly gotten better and you can properly expose even with 90% of the data on the very left edge of the histogram, but this still loses resolution.

My guess is you can only really say how many people care about dr once they've shot with a high(er)-dr camera, otherwise there's no real choice and keeping to the old ways is the probable behavior.

The Architect: As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly ninety-nine percent of the test subjects accepted the program provided they were given a choice - even if they were only aware of it at a near-unconscious level.

The latter group far and away outnumbers the former.

This has left me confused - how would you know that? Or are you just talking of the number of posters in this thread?

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera to Come in Two Variants? [CR1]
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:24:25 PM »
That would be nuts.

Imho this isn't the point, people buying all kinds of premium products can be called nuts.

But with the 5d3 release and the multiple delays for lenses and cameras, many Canon users have proven to be rather resistant against "jumping ship". Probably simply because they like their long-term brand, Canon service, Canon usability, Canon whatever and are as conservative as Canon themselves. If you have €25k lenses, another $1000 more or less for a camera that actually makes use of their potential resolution is a minor expense w/o running into compatibility issues with adapters.

Lighting / Re: What 3rd party flash?
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:18:49 PM »
I don't have it here with me, but if I recall it has 4 battery levels on the indicator, I've never seen it lower than 1/2.

Oh my, the thing even has a battery indicator? Take that, €500 Canon 600rt... :-o

Lighting / Re: What 3rd party flash?
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:07:19 PM »
They are still a bit under the radar, but they have my approval including HSS and E-TTL.

Interesting, I didn't know this one. It hasn't got the 200mm reflector of the Pixel or Canon large flashes though, and users on Amazon and Flashhavoc write something about the proprietary battery packs dying fast: http://flashhavoc.com/godox-v860c-ving-ettl-flash-review/

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