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EOS Bodies / Re: Scott Kelby Does a Field Report on the EOS 7D Mark II
« on: October 11, 2014, 07:11:22 AM »
if you want to shoot sports and wildlife and can't afford the 1DX, this is the camera that you should consider

To reach that conclusion, it probably doesn't require a review by a renowned photog :-p

I'm with you on this, RLPhoto.  Any perceived/imagined DR "problem" is all too easy to work around.

Oh my, we're going full circle, aren't we? Just as I thought even the fiercest dr antagonists seem to conclude that for some applications (think "noon beach volleyball") 11ev or 14ev dr might make a real difference, it's back to square one with everything "easy to work around" :-p

When it comes to wildlife and birds, I believe we must separate between amateurs and pros. I am an amateur and my photography is partly an excuse to be out in nature, partly to succeed in my hunt for a specific animal/bird and partly to try to be as good as some of the pros. I take great pride in an image from time to time. I believe Edward (eml58) is in a similar position, given that he is not trying to sell his images, he just shoots more spectacular ones than the rest of us.

It's good to hear so many people feel there are plenty of opportunities left to create something new and unique, even if it doesn't happen very often.

I admit that my post was bing written a bit as advocatus diaboli, but at least for fireflies that I shoot 1-2 times a year I still find it difficult. You get some shots that are really good, focus spot-on, terrific framing, everything's peachy - and then back home when researching for the name of the animal you find shots with double the resolution and double the lens' (price) right there on wikipedia :-p

For everything else that's a bit more mammal-like (or can appear that way) it's easier to picture emotions, stories and relationships that go beyond the simply visual/tech aspect of the shot (like in: "smooth bokeh").

I don't see how that can be interpreted as having backfired.

It has if he doesn't perceive it as learning, but as frustration and stops further learning by giving up on it altogether. No all people are dslr enthusiasts, if you're busy with another job and just do the photog thing in between your tolerance for a steep learning curve is only so large. Esp. if there's nobody around what you're doing wrong in the first place.

Interesting thread though (after all, I started it :-p) - there seems to be a large distinction between sports/... photogs who rely on top gear and the rest, and many of those of who say it would have mattered started off in the dark ages of digitial photography. Nowadays, imho "just" getting a crop 70d, d7100, whatever doesn't mean certain doom for all shots taken with it when viewed back from 2020.

There were close to 14 million dSLRs sold last year.  How many of those people do you think know what low ISO DR is, much less care about it?

I don't know, that's why I'm not putting up figures.

I do know that I though dr was not a big issue (well, far less than iso noise anyway) until I started shooting with the 14.5+ dr of Magic Lantern. Only then I realized how often some part of my old 60d shots was clipped because I couldn't ettl it w/o losing to much iq. With the 6d shadow noise has certainly gotten better and you can properly expose even with 90% of the data on the very left edge of the histogram, but this still loses resolution.

My guess is you can only really say how many people care about dr once they've shot with a high(er)-dr camera, otherwise there's no real choice and keeping to the old ways is the probable behavior.

The Architect: As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly ninety-nine percent of the test subjects accepted the program provided they were given a choice - even if they were only aware of it at a near-unconscious level.

The latter group far and away outnumbers the former.

This has left me confused - how would you know that? Or are you just talking of the number of posters in this thread?

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera to Come in Two Variants? [CR1]
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:24:25 PM »
That would be nuts.

Imho this isn't the point, people buying all kinds of premium products can be called nuts.

But with the 5d3 release and the multiple delays for lenses and cameras, many Canon users have proven to be rather resistant against "jumping ship". Probably simply because they like their long-term brand, Canon service, Canon usability, Canon whatever and are as conservative as Canon themselves. If you have €25k lenses, another $1000 more or less for a camera that actually makes use of their potential resolution is a minor expense w/o running into compatibility issues with adapters.

Lighting / Re: What 3rd party flash?
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:18:49 PM »
I don't have it here with me, but if I recall it has 4 battery levels on the indicator, I've never seen it lower than 1/2.

Oh my, the thing even has a battery indicator? Take that, €500 Canon 600rt... :-o

Lighting / Re: What 3rd party flash?
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:07:19 PM »
They are still a bit under the radar, but they have my approval including HSS and E-TTL.

Interesting, I didn't know this one. It hasn't got the 200mm reflector of the Pixel or Canon large flashes though, and users on Amazon and Flashhavoc write something about the proprietary battery packs dying fast: http://flashhavoc.com/godox-v860c-ving-ettl-flash-review/

There are probably hundreds of other variables to consider but the OP asked if anyone had reached 150-250k counts, not if it had been done in specific conditions or by someone who knew the specs by heart.

I just mentioned this because the poster in the link was doing a review, and not getting the specs right in this case isn't a sign of a very in-depth approach. But you're correct, if he says he's got over 250k then this is the only fact that matters.

70K on my 6d (17 months old). But my mode dial broke, so the shutter lasted longer than the mode dial  :P

My dial also broke, but they replaced it for free under warranty and even gave the 6d a cleaning making the sensor and optical parts look like new.

Sorry, just realized your title states '6D only' sorry, I blew that one.  :-\

There's always the "remove" post option :-p

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: EOS6D or 7DMKII ?
« on: October 09, 2014, 05:32:32 PM »
Having 17-40L & 70-200 F4L IS lenses, I was looking towards the 6D as my main interest is travel/landscape photography & a bit of airshow stuff (for which the 100D is fine) so FF seemed the logical way to go.

With these f4 lenses, the af of the 6d should be ok (except from the fact that tracking is absymal and the outer points are non-cross and tend to hunt). Imho the 17-40L is not good on crop but rather soft wide open, if you stay with crop then you should probably upgrade to the new 16-35L/4-IS.

There are so many threads about the 6d that I won't repeat any of it, only that the 6d is not as a "complete" all-around camera like the 7d2 which is bound to be more fun. It depends on how you would use the ff sensor, i.e. do you need the ~2+ more stops for higher shutter speed or less noise? Do you want the 1.6x reach advantage of the crop sensor? Do you want the thinner depth of field that ff provides?

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera to Come in Two Variants? [CR1]
« on: October 09, 2014, 04:50:28 PM »
An unknown person has sent us a bunch of cryptic information about Canon’s roadmap over the next 6-9 months. I have been unable to confirm any of it

Yay, that's how we like our rumors :->

The other possibility could be an EOS and Cinema EOS version of the camera

That would probably be it - change a bit of the firmware, add some more cooling and add a couple of €1000 to the price tag of the "base" version just like they did it with the 1dx/1dc.

It was also stressed that the cameras being talked about wouldn’t be in the $8000-$9000 range like has been discussed recently, and likely cost half of that.

"Only" $4000 for Canon's latest and greatest? Honestly, I don't see them doing that as there are a lot of people desperate for a high-mp EOS, so at least the early adopter's price should be a lot higher.

This guy says he's got over 250,000 and no problems yet: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=19066.0

... only that he doesn't even know it's only rated for 100k instead of 150k:

It's rated for 150,000 shutter actuations, since recording the video I've now put on 250,000. Awesome!

Fyi, afaik it very much depends on the actual shooting conditions how long the shutter lasts, cold temperatures or high shutter speeds wear it down much faster than 1/125s indoor shooting.

Well only my fear - if shutter dies on wedding or any kind of work when im shooting

The shutter can fail anytime, starting from the first shot. Look at the stats on the net, even a lot of pro-rated cameras fail at 50k (of course then replaced under warranty).

Btw don't mention you plan to shoot a wedding or other similar one-time important occasion without an (adequate!) backup camera in a wedding forum, you'll be flamed to a crisp. Rightly so.

Hello all 6d owners! I dont find any topic about maximum 6d shutter counts, so i decided to start my own. My 6d have 95.356. Did anybody reach 150-250 counts?

Good to hear some people are even faster than me - after one year, mine is at 60k.

With the 6d being a semi-pro camera at least an not designed for high fps machinegunning, I doubt we'll get any reliable information about the shutter's quality yet. There are stats for other, older cameras like the 5d2, but as Canon downgraded the 6d (proof: only 1/4000s max. speed) it might be less sturdy. Or not.

In any case, I guess selling your 6d now with this shutter rating could be a larger loss of money than simply have the shutter replaced once it fails - all other parts of the camera will last longer.

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