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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 26, 2014, 05:34:15 AM »
The important thing is Canon's admission its customers need more MP.

I wouldn't interpret it this way, imho Canon just stated the obvious - *some* (select) applications like studio or maybe landscape work might need higher resolution, just as higher dynamic range only benefits just a part of photogs. In no way they're up to questioning their past product policy, so certainly no killer 5d4 in sight.


This is embarrassing, though it must be said the problem is that the *default* option opens the camera to data theft and you can change to a secure setting. Plus of course they'll release a fw update in no time.

However, to put this in perspective: Nikon is "just" a imaging company, but tons of products of dedicated information technology specialists like routers and phones have similar gaping security holes, Most prominently these are default passwords not enforced to be changed by the user and hidden maintenance backdoors.

So it's only good for a quick chuckle by the Canon crowd - but with Nikon's faster product policy, flaws are more likely. For a conservative company like Canon, this is less likely, for good (stability) or worse (lagging behind the bleeding edge).

Reviews / Re: Canon 16-35 F4 Review vs. 17-40 Shootout
« on: September 26, 2014, 05:10:43 AM »
* Physically larger than 17-40
* Inclusion of IS makes it noticeably heavier than the 17-40

Thanks for the balanced impressions! I'd replace my 17-40L if I had the money lying around, but one question since you've been shooting with both alongside:

Does the 35-40mm range make a difference in real life? With my current 17-40L (on ff) I feel I can use it as a short standard lens ... barely, because 40mm is very short, but the distortion vs. the "normal" 50mm isn't that noticeable. I imagine the long end being just 35mm only makes the 16-35L usable as a dedicated (u)wa lens, or am I mistaken?

+1 for both points in favor of the old model, while of course outdated makes an amazingly light and small package when combined with a 6d. So if people on a budget get hold of a cheap 17-40L, imho it's still a good lens esp. stopped down to f8.

Canon General / Re: Those D'oh moments!
« on: September 26, 2014, 05:04:39 AM »
Camera still perched she was examining her results and got a tad bit too excited and....yep, splash.

Oh my, that is indeed memorable, I imagine moments like this appear rather surreal at the time: "Wasn't there just a camera sitting on this pole"? Actually I imagined something like this happening to me, and with my current budget constraints I see me diving after the camera :-p

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 26, 2014, 05:01:47 AM »
Well, look what I saw this morning

Weasel words like "soon" remind me of the current "year of the lens", only to just hear that new L primes have been moved far into 2015. I do believe Canon will sell a very expensive studio high-mp 1dxs soon, but I don't see them replacing their whole current lineup with 6d and 5d3 anytime "soon" with high-mp updates.

« on: September 26, 2014, 04:58:55 AM »
Oh -- you could add one more: The obnoxious selfie photographer :-)

Right, but only by using the ProMaster(tm) selfie stick :-p like here: ... reminds me of the time a smart skandinavian businessman started selling ski poles as "Nordic Walking"(tm) equipment for the golden agers :->

« on: September 26, 2014, 03:50:00 AM »
true story 8)

But there's one missing which looks even dumber: The latest step in evolution is people holding their mirrorless or mobile camera 20cm away from them at eye level and don't use the viewfinder anymore.

Technical Support / Re: Dynamic Range questions..
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:47:25 AM »
In general, Sony EXMOR has more DR until ISO400. Canon has more DR at ISO above 1600.

I certainly am not interested in any dr mud slinging, but it has to be noted that Sony's advantage at low iso is very large and noticeable while Canon's advantage at higher iso (see individual model dr curves) are minor.

I'm generally looking here, though it's mostly dxo data:

I am finding that my 6D has fair DR at 100 and a very high DR in comparison at higher ISO's.

My standard comment: Use Magic Lantern's dual_iso, it boosts your dynamic range at iso 100 to about 14.5+ stops at (nearly) no loss of iq but usability hassle. It also will have a mini_iso module in the near future adding 1/3-1/2 ev of dynamic range just like that, it's about the same optimization Canon did to the 1dx.

Lighting / Re: Yongnuo YN600EX-RT at Photokina?
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:42:32 AM »
New items will be released in the fair:

Strange wording, we'll see when it will be released to the public. I hope enough people have been forced to beta-test their rt controller so they've got the flash right ... but as it has a usb fw update interface, early adopters might be in for trouble again.

It's nice to have a software upgrade option, and I'd certainly have some suggestions for fixing little quirks with Canon's 600rt - but this option also might lead companies to adopt a "sell first, fix later" strategy.

Keep an eye on Flash Havoc
They generally seem to be first with flash hardware news.

True, but as they're so quick I'd advise caution about their reviews. At least with the Yn rt controller clone they were very positive (as was everybody else, what could go wrong?) but completely missed the unreliable radio performance and the laughable af assist ... the latter can be discovered after 10min of shooting with it.

Lenses / Re: HERE COMES THE BRAND NEW EF 50mm f/1.4
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:36:09 AM »
Pssh.  When has Canon ever lowered prices because of competition from third party manufacturers?

Take their rt controller which is available for a much lower price now than on initial introduction, while the rt flash keeps its price except for cashback and other promotions. Other examples: 24-70L2 has dropped in price (Tamron 24-70 competition), so have the 6d and 5d3 (Nikon competition) and if you really look into price curve and introduction of 3rd party lenses, esp. ef-s, I'm positive you'll find more.

In their premium segments, Canon places a great importance on customer investment protection, so they'll never lower a price by 1/3 of the price in one step. But even here I remember vaguely a recent price reduction across a whole range of L lenses.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:37:42 PM »
I will move from APS-C to FF soon

... "soon" :-p ? You were the one waiting for a good Canon sensor in the famed 5d4, weren't you? Good luck with that :-p

And thin DOF requires fixed focal lenses. Potentially even very expensive ones, that I rarely ever use. Don't really like those 1-trick ponies. 3 f/2.8 zooms on FF is all I need. Holy trinity and be done with. Actually for 16-35 the f/4 would do for me.

I understand f2.8 happens to be the sweet spot for zooms between size/weight and max open aperture. But on ff, my f4 zooms produce a dof thin enough for the 6d's af system to struggle, and they're small, light and cheaper. As we know, it simply depends on the camera-subject-background distance relation and f2.8 on a wide angle won't help you at all if your subject is standing in front of a wall.

You are right of course. But, this is a 25 000 iso shot not 2500 iso. Actually it should be 25600 iso, its the 'max' setting of the Eos6d before turning on the even higher so settings, which I haven't even looked at nor used!

Meh, I mis-read that because shooting with iso 25k is outside my imagination :-p ... but in that case, I can contribute another smarta** comment: The max. analog iso of the 6d is 3200 (5d3: 6400), so if you shoot raw you can simply use this and underexpose - otherwise you're again just reducing the dynamic range.

Photography Technique / Re: Postprocessing brush instead of cto/ctb gel?
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:30:22 PM »
The only issue I ever have with WB in post is that I don't always have a reliably neutral spot to use the WB dropper on - which is why I always try to take a white card reference shot.

For reference: My standard issues with wb are outdoor shots near dawn or sunset when the natural wb changes quickly and you're very unlikely to hit the correct spot with a gel. I've got a fancy x-rite white card with automatic dng profiling for indoor shots, but as everybody except me probably knew all along this isn't working at all outdoors. That's why I found out that wb-brushing color casts is very effective vs. gel hassle. Bets are off for other shot types like the described indoor commercial work with mixed lighting.

Lenses / Re: HERE COMES THE BRAND NEW EF 50mm f/1.4
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:24:55 PM »
Since using those, I've been somewhat looking forward to the near-mythical-at-this-point YN600RT as a low cost alternative to the Canon 600RT.

It won't be as Canon isn't dumb - if a budget competition with the same level of functionality and build quality appears, they'll lower the price of their 600rt and/or even at last release a 430ex2 successor that might appeal to many as a radio slave flash.

There's a ton of counterfeit stuff coming from China, I give Yongnuo credit for at least putting its own name on the barrel.

Did anyone compare the detailed Canon 50/1.4 vs Yn 50/1.4 specs? Is it really just a 1:1 copy?

In other interesting news, some Chinese consumer electronics factories (laptops, mostly) assembly lines are staffed 50% by unpaid or otherwise illegally and coercively employed student interns.

I understand China is even rising to the countries with better working conditions because they've got to take care of their image - we cannot have workers commit suicide by jumping off Apple-contractor factory roofs all the time, can we? The real cheap labor is found elsewhere in the meantime like in Vietnam or similar.

Sad fact - if everyone of us would strip their homes of products with cheap-labor parts or raw materials mined in horrible circumstances, our homes would be bare :-o

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:15:06 PM »
interesting. I postprocess my images to make them look the way I want them to look. :-)

This is a really interesting point, unfortunately buried ot in a trash talk "dr / high res" thread so few people will join the discussion.

Personally, I am with the previous poster because I find that postprocessing is needed to create an accurate resemblance of what I saw and felt - this means directing the view, modifying the colors not to be over the top and giving a feel of direction/movement even in a still shot. Thin dof *does* help to achieve this, but how thin depends on the output/view size and it mustn't be there just to demonstrate you're able to afford a f1.2 lens on a ff.

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