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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon announced D750
« on: September 12, 2014, 04:53:00 PM »
My take,

The d750 sounds like a speced up d610, but not so speced up to be a real competitor to the d810 - sounds like a good partner camera for a d810 (for wedding shooters, d750 comes out for the ceremony and reception, d810 for the posed stuff and first dances...)

It makes me wonder if canon will upgrade the 6d sooner than later.  It also makes me wonder if Nikon is  putting an end to the d6xx line.  It just seems like too many FF camera's now.  In my opinion Nikon should have manned up and not gimped this camera - price it closer to $3k, 1/8000 shutter, CF slots instead of sd, more cross points.  don't get me wrong, for the price it's a really good option as a companion body. 

I find it funny that the 7d2 has some very impressive upgrades but canon folks blast it as a weak offering (AKA no promise of more DR), and they so praise nikon for always pushign the bar, then nikon does this.  It's puzzling.  I expected more from this release.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 12, 2014, 11:21:02 AM »
"I am neither excited nor disappointed.  The specs are, on average, what I was expecting."

throwing my hat in the above voting block.  I'm not shooting sports that often, nor do I do wildlife so 10 fps is overkill, and I don't find myself in reach limited situations too much.  So, there wasn't too much this body could really do for me.

I do like a few of the little things though ---

built in Intervalometer -  not huge but very useful and will most likely be in future body upgrades.

Can sync time between 7D II cameras. --- I really like the idea of this, hope they do it right and again, make this universal to all bodies.  i shoot with 2 bodies so better time syncing can save a bunch of time and head ache in post. 

Other than that, it's a matter of wait and see how this thing actually performs.  Will the sensor have some new characteristics?  My guess is yes but to what extent?  I mean, this is first and foremost a sports/action camera ---i know car analogies rarely work but --- if you buy a sports a car your not generally going to be too worried about trunk space or a trailer hitch.     

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 04:18:47 AM »
"Intervalometer"

now, I'm 99% certain i am not buying another cop body...but...that one makes me smile.  canon should have had an Intervalometer before this so that just makes me smile that it's in this, because it will be in other bodies soon.  this does sound like a nice body though. 

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: 5D MK III Images
« on: September 11, 2014, 04:02:02 AM »
here's a new one.

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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM
« on: September 08, 2014, 03:59:41 PM »
here's one from just the other day that I am particularly proud of!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 08, 2014, 03:23:35 PM »
Nikon could have matched canon dollar for dollar on the d800 (with the 5d3) - their decision not to says to me this is a company that is getting a little desperate.

Except your argument builds on the false premise that Nikon set their price point before Canon did. It was the other way around...

if you are correct then how is it false - if canon set their pruice fort he 5d3 first then nikon could have matched it (notice that the d810 price is a lot closer to the 5d3 cost.  This also tells me that the gamble of undercutting canon did not work (IE - not enough canon users jumped ship). 

Also, I really think that sony pulled a fast one on nikon by putting the exmor chip in the A7 ---- in the prosumer/pro market, your catering to a segment that is already with you, or, pro's that use the other brand.  by making the A7's adaptor friendly, that does cut out many potential brand switchers because canon users can buy the A7r and enjoy most of the benefits of the exmor sensor without selling off glass and replacing it (aka switching to the d8xx series).


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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:24:18 PM »
How about we all pitch in a few bucks/dollars/quid and buy dilbert a D800 for Christmas? Maybe he will finally stop complaining then, because I can't figure out why someone so unhappy with Canon and envious of Nikon wouldn't just switch and STFU :)

I'm 100% serious about this. I will pitch in the first $10 USD for dilbert's D800 fund. We just need 299 more people to pledge $10 USD to this altruistic cause. With the power of the internet, surely we can accomplish this!

wow...lol...i would almost do this but ---like a trainwreck it's kind of fun to read the rants....lol

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:08:14 PM »
So, here's a few ideas based on multiple responses in this thread:

Regarding the market share argument ---  I'd say this is both a dead horse and a valid argument --- but thats exactly how I feel about the constant calls for Canon to answer the nikon (fill in the blank ), or the constant, talk of how so many are gonna switch (LOL, reality on that is that miost who do switch or add on a system won't be talking or bragging or complaining, they would be silently doing that.  Either way, it all comes right back to market share and sales - the way i see it it's the good old put your money where your mouth is - canon's sales figures do tell us that not enough people are putting their money where their mouths are (either by skipping model releases or buying other systems).  Conversely, nikon's sales figures don't speak towards large numbers of new users jumping into their system (i'd love to see some used market data - this may tell us more than the actual sales figures for new product - or not even used sales but used availability - is there a glut of canon glass and bodies on the market?  I don't see that, and, if there was a huge increase in supply of used caon gear then the cost of used gear would probably drop a bit too...not seeing that. 

Another poster, forget who it was and I'm not gonna search for it was saying something to the effect of - sales figures aren't as important as being competitive in the market.  Seriously???  A company can't be IN the market without positive sales figures.  Being competitive is great, but you gotta be smart with it and not jump the shark.  I still think nikon made a deal with the devil by partnering with sony for sensors.  Yes that gives them a kick ass sensor now, but it shifts the focus from nikon to sony.  With sony now putting that sensor in many other companies bodies, this effect gets multiplied.  If Nikon was better woth things like quality control, customer service, repairs then things may be a little different.  Note, I am also looking at the reality of nikons pricing - Nikon is most likely saving a ton of R&D money on sensors by partnering with sony - given that their product is extremely similar to canons - they should be charging the same price - but no, they are undercutting canon.  Which at first makes buyers happy, yeah, saved some $$$$...but then consider where the $$$ is going, if it's going to things like CPS and lens R&D and customer swervice/quality control, then yeah, I am wok paying a little more.  Nikon could have matched canon dollar for dollar on the d800 (with the 5d3) - their decision not to says to me this is a company that is getting a little desperate. 


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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: And what does Canon do?
« on: September 06, 2014, 12:32:00 AM »
It's the differences in IQ that I'm referring to. Features are a dime a dozen. ...

We use cameras to take pictures. When it comes to taking pictures, most Canon cameras have not changed much in YEARS as far as IQ is concerned.

We use cameras to take pictures, not just sensors (where have I heard that before?  ::) ).  Of all the pictures taken with a dSLR, what fraction would you say we're shot without autofocus?  Less than 2%?  Less than 0.2%?  The 40D got a big AF boost, in the T4i that was improvement reached the entry-level line.  The 7D had the best APS-C AF available, now in the xxD line, and if the rumored spec is true, the 7DII will once again have the best APS-C AF system.  The 1D X and 5DIII have top AF systems, and both are significant improvements over their predecessors. 

Better AF – more cross-type points, spread further across the frame, f/2.8 accuracy in the center, those 'dime-a-dozen' features translate directly to a higher rate of in-focus images.   So...does a blurry, misfocused image with 13 stops of DR have better IQ than a properly focused image with 2 stops less DR?  Are you going to take a blurry, misfocused image and lament over noise when you push the shadows...or just delete the image?

For the small minority (there's that word again) who's shooting style depends primarily on the sensor...tripod users shooting static scenes, Canon sensor IQ has improved only slightly...and as the many award-winning, awe-inspiring landscape scenes shot with Canon cameras will attest, the sensor IQ was excellent already.


I think people are clamoring for it. However they are clamoring for other products. The sheer number of new Nikon DSLRs being used with the black point hack in astrophotography...

I didn't say people aren't clamoring for it.  I said not many people, as in a minority of dSLR buyers, are clamoring for it.  "The sheer number of ... DSLRs being used ... in astrophotography...," LOL.  I know you later acknowledged it's a niche, but thanks for the laugh on the way there...

oh come now neuro, we all know what clients and buyers want...that is of course to pixel peep!  that is why I am gonna change what I show to clients from now on.  Instead of showing them an image, I will take an extremely small crop of a corner of the image.

I mean, the evidence is clear, see below...the first 2 are tiny crops of the bottom left and right corner...I mean who would want to buy that---it's so shadowy...I know...if only i had an exmor......don't even look at the 3rd, i mean, the 2 super crops should be enough to tell the story right?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 04, 2014, 05:32:38 PM »
Why has this made it to page 30?
Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.
Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.
Don Haines
Posts: 3084
 ;)
And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect.  :P
I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)
Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!
Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.
What? No one else wants to play?
I spy something with my little eye...
I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.
What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope....  :o
Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...
Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide.  :D
That would be fun!
Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?
thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<
How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel!  :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages?  :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with....  :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel  ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone?  ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.
Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not?  :o
Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.
RLPhoto, were you upset that I put a Squirrel in your Kaleidoscope? Or that I didn't play by the standard rules of I Spy? (giving a hint before revealing the subject)
Still going? Even the squirrels are shaking their fists!

I think we may have completely swallowed the original post now. :P I don't even see it at all...

Wow...lol

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 03, 2014, 04:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Robert Brody
Also missing is the serious fact that Nikon's flash system is a lot nicer.

Yep, there's an unbiased guy who really knows what he's talking about.  To be fair, the 600EX-RT has only been out for a couple years, so maybe he's just not keeping up.

Besides, just dodge and burn in post. Make use of that sony DR rather than mucking around with off camera lighting.

sorry, but dodging and burning just won't give you the same effect as well positioned lighting

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 12:08:51 PM »
seems odd to me that you so love what the exmor can do but won't buy a sony.  Why not rent it and see if you like it?  I mean, lets put it like this ---do you value your time?  Looking at all your rather lengthy posts, lets put it on a dollar scale ---if you value your time at lets say at least $25-50 an hour, just what you've posted in this topic alone covers the rental cost.  Then you can see if the lossy RAW is worse than the Canon Raw in the shadows.  Many seem to like the A7r for landscape work, and if you are right and canon sensors are so horrible then for printing big then even a lossy exmor should be better then right?  Regadless, why not rent it and see, then rent a d810 and see....if the difference for your work is that big then buy one.

Well, for one, it doesn't take me long to write a post. I type nearly at the speed of thought..so... I could probably write a WOT in the time it takes most people to write one smaller post. :P

We'll see. Next time I get a chance to spend a week in the mountains, I'll rent both.

WOw...speed of thought....if you can type that fast I am sure you could get paid quite well just to type!....lol...Either way, I think folks here are lot less against the nikon tech than you think, we just aren't seeing the need for it as much as you because we aren't shooting as many landscapes.  I do shoot landscapes from time to time, and waterscapes, I do dig throwing a big ND filter on and turning day into night...but that isn't my bread and butter - so I buy what I need for my work.  Would I like and extra stop of DR for that stuff...sure, but, for my professional work, I actually embrace the shadow.  More than not, I will darken the shadows to enhance the mood.  For what I do, good control over off camera light is way more important to me than having more DR...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:43:31 AM »
Again jrista, I don't see it. You've have no reason at this point not to adopt the a7r, it's a fantastic camera with basically identical IQ that doesn't require a full adoption. I like end results and the a7r gives a better end result than 5d3 for your landscapes.

Call it in, and hang up the phone on the DR posts. I mean you probably could have wrote war & peace with a stop wedge by now.

I think all jrista wants is the DR of the Sony sensors in Canon bodies, because the Sony bodies have a wealth of disadvantages that far outweigh the sensor (IMO at least).  You can't take a picture with just a sensor, and Sony is inferior with nearly all of those other aspects of the camera/lens.  If Canon incorporates an improved sensor in a future EOS camera, it would be the best of both worlds.

Best of both worlds is what I'm after. In the long run, if Canon doesn't drop a new sensor into their models next year, then an A7r might just be the solution. I agree that Sony bodies have a wealth of disadvantages...but, ultimately, I only really need it for landscapes...so the majority of those disadvantages (except the crappy RAW format) would really be a problem.

That's WHY the a7r is an awesome option - it gives you a chance to get your feet wet with more res and DR without committing to a full system swtich, or more expensive, adding the nikon to your kit.  As you said,AF is pretty much useless for landscape work, so using the adapter shouldn't be an issue

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:41:08 AM »
I don't get it jrista. Just go a buy a d810+14-24mm and be done with it. Why continue with the long posts?

Eh, I dunno. I don't have infinite money. I can either buy a QSI683 CCD camera, which is about four grand. Or, I could buy a D810+14-24mm, which is about $5300. I also need to pick up a larger telescope, which is going to be about a grand. The D810+14-24 would eat into the budget for that as well.

Ditto with RLP - or just go get an A7r with adaptor (keep your canon glass). 

I'll never buy a Sony camera so long as they use a lossy compressed file format. Maybe that's just more of the high standards crap...I dunno. But, there it is.

But, I keep readfing your posts and can't help but think ---what did you expect????  the 5d3 is primarily an event/low light camera - that's what it was designed for and it does excel at that.  You want to do more landscapes, great, go do it - and don't be so scared to just get what you need.  What's on the market is on the market as it were.  Canon has what it has, Nikon has what it has, Sony has what it has.  Screaming at canon will not make the product your demanding appear.  Money will talk though.  If sales of A7's leap, and research finds it's owners of lots of canon glass that's buying them, that will make canon take notice.  Writing books on a forum that isn't even part of Canon is just blowing steam. 

I guess I disagree that the 5D III was only intended as an event/low light camera. The 5D II was the most popular landscape DSLR on the planet until the D800 came along. It's one of only two cameras in Canon's current lineup that really offers what's needed for landscapes anyway...large frame, high megapixel count...well, certainly lacking in the DR area. The 6D is the other option...but it lacks in the areas for all my other kinds of photography. Ironically, the 6D has 26.8e- RN, and does even better at high ISO than the 5D III...really confused as to why Canon did not put the 6D image sensor and readout pipeline into the 5D III...the latter did not come out much later after the 5D III...

seems odd to me that you so love what the exmor can do but won't buy a sony.  Why not rent it and see if you like it?  I mean, lets put it like this ---do you value your time?  Looking at all your rather lengthy posts, lets put it on a dollar scale ---if you value your time at lets say at least $25-50 an hour, just what you've posted in this topic alone covers the rental cost.  Then you can see if the lossy RAW is worse than the Canon Raw in the shadows.  Many seem to like the A7r for landscape work, and if you are right and canon sensors are so horrible then for printing big then even a lossy exmor should be better then right?  Regadless, why not rent it and see, then rent a d810 and see....if the difference for your work is that big then buy one.

 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:29:44 AM »
I bought a D800 after reading the hype.  It was a waste of money, I sold it and bought a 5D MK III.  The D800 appeals to armchair spec readers, but few that actually use one are happy.

Really?

And you interviewed how many D800 owners to come up with this conclusion???

If you prefer Canon over Nikon, great.  Lots of people do.  But to make a generalization like that is a bit much.

Is it really so hard to admit that some people like their Nikons just like some people like their Canons?

different tools for different things man.  In the wedding industry here, the d800 took a while to catch on.  Most nikon guys I knew were opting for a d3s or a d4 or a used d700.  The few that did snag a d800 did like it for the posed formal shots, but stayed away from making that the primary camera ---not because of IQ or capabilities but because of file size.  More of that crowd is snagging d810's now, because it is a better camera than the original model, and because it's a few years later - the d4s is pricey and their d700's are reaching the end of their cycles....so they are buying the d810 now because they don't have much choice. 

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