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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« on: August 25, 2014, 10:16:40 AM »
looks like a good update. I think a lot of the expectations from crazy rumors were way off (12 fps? please guys :) let's be realistic here). But overall a nice update if you're into cropped sensors.

Also worried about the "fine detail"...I really don't want them to start removing AA filters. That is just a dumb trend that photographers like simply because they do not understand the value of an AA filter, or the ease by which AA softening can be sharpened.

Any soft image can be sharpened. But the images that are sharpest in RAW without sharpening are going to take post processing much better.

I'm actually kind of shocked to see someone on a camera forum advocating soft images.

I'm not. He is advocating against messed up aliased images, not for soft images.

I hope Canon just get suckered into the Nikon/SONY fake hype over AA-less sensors.

i have to say the 810 images look not bad.
im not a nikon expert but i read the camera has no AA filter.

The audience of the 810 is nature, landscape and studio photographer. Patterns which cause AA can be controlled in the studio, and in nature with say landscape or plants, it really isn't an issue most times. so this is why AA-filter deletes will be the de-facto standard going forward just as high MP, real vision DR, and low ISO will be. Yes some of it is marketing, but the reality is that the AA filter has a noticeable penalty on EVERY image you take even when the image wasn't really affected by AA artifacts. Plenty of very high end medium format sensors have been produced without AA filters and ultimately we now understand AA filters do more harm than good at this point for many applications which demand the most detail possible. Off course to maximize the AA-filter delete you have to have proper technique, in particular with high resolution cameras. But at least now that the AA filter out of the way, you can start to really make technique the only thing in the way to the sharpest image possible.

This is off course not every camera, and not every situation. Yes, there will be times when an image has moire patterns due to the lack of AA filtering. Some software can correct color patterns very well, other images won't be so lucky. Ultimately you have to understand your work. If your 99% of your images are taking a hit because of the AA filter just for the 1% you may rescue from aliasing, then you're being a fool for worrying about aliasing. Conversely if your work doesn't demand the most detail and often shoot in aliasing inducing environments, yeah get something with an AA filter.

The D800/E experiment is fascinating in this regard. Nikon gave people a choice and even made the E more expensive. But ultimately it received such huge positive reaction from customers that they decided AA-less was the way forward. As it turns out, most people's fears are just fears not based on the reality of what they actually shoot, and moire wasn't as much of a problem due for most. Sometimes change is needed for people to overcome their fears and while I was on the AA-filter skeptic camp before, after trying out filters without it I can say AA filter is a pair of training wheels that need to come off. Ultimately the test is on whether you can go back to an AA-filter equipped camera after living without one? Answers will change but for my personal experience, and seems from market research Nikon's audience knows: no freaking way. I wouldn't shoot an AA-filtered camera again because it hurts more than helps for me. If I do, it will be because I legitimately had to, and so far, never have had to.


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon mirrorless: Status?
« on: August 20, 2014, 03:03:28 PM »
canon, like nikon, is an old world power in decline so off course they fear mirrorless because it means having to compete and start over in a world where their lens systems count for nothing or need to rely on adapters nobody wants.

So I don't expect to see anything exciting from canon or nikon until their APS-C sales are so bad that they are forced to evolve. This will be a fantastic chance to break free from mount lock in and I can't wait for it.

Having borrowed an A7s for some 4K video work, I have to say sony has all the right stuff. They are a huge company with huge technical muscle which moves twice as fast as nikon or canon. I'd love to see them outright buy nikon for the optics division. that would be a monster of a company.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D810 users are seeing spots
« on: August 20, 2014, 08:38:05 AM »
like the last gen's 1Ds series oily mirrors fiasco on canon's side, nikon learned and that is always good.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Medium Format Announcement a \
« on: August 19, 2014, 09:06:01 AM »
IMHO as canon has declined and ceded a lot of market back from the glory days where they 80%+ dominated every segment, they need to go this way or really start challenging mirrorless. The problem for canon is that they have the same problem Nikon had before they turned around: protecting a market. Canon and to a lesser extent Nikon are making decisions to stop the mirrorless take over instead of embracing it. In many ways, they are the blackberries of the world facing the Android take over. evolve or die.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1dx vs Nikon d810
« on: August 19, 2014, 09:02:45 AM »
I could not think of a more uneven comparison...but thanks?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 No Longer in Production
« on: August 19, 2014, 09:01:29 AM »
pipe dream. there is nothing wrong with the 5DMkIII. As of now it has no direct competitor (that seems to change with Nikon's rumored 2-year newer D750). But even if canon wanted to release it sooner, they are unlikely to do so as they have a lot of RD investment to recoup making the 4-5 year cycle stand.

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I found this Nikon Rumors thread kind of interesting to snoop on.

http://forum.nikonrumors.com/discussion/2942/phottix-mitrosmitros-my-experience

And it was also interesting to see how anemic the forum is on Nikon Rumors compared to Canon Rumors.  Very little activity, not nearly as well-organized, not as much content.

well compared to most forums, this forum is quite anemic. just a fanboy nest for validating a purchase. so let's not call the kettle black.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: DXO uh-oh?
« on: August 19, 2014, 08:56:06 AM »
boy if canon every scores high on DXO, so many people are going to eat crow when they suddenly praise their accuracy. fanboys. meh.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Another Nikon full-frame
« on: August 19, 2014, 08:48:53 AM »

While its true that Camera sales are down, as Canon noted, high end camera sales are climbing.  That hasn't been overlooked by Nikon, if they are indeed planning another Full Frame Body.

Yes ... but that's not because Nikon is in trouble.
That's the point of contention here.

Both the 5DIII and D800 have proven very successful and have shown that there is a place for both types of cameras at the high end.

So, it's not surprising that Nikon will likely be announcing a 5DIII-type of camera at Photokina.
Why not  monetize on the need for such a camera in their lineup?

As for Canon: what if they announces a 40mp 5DIV at Photokina?
Will that be an act of desperation? A me-too response to the D810?

Certainly not. Just good business for Canon - and same for Nikon.

Why try to spin it as if either one is doing it because they are in trouble ??

+750 :)

Thanks for smacking down the stupid fanboys just trying to play brand favoritism instead of making an intelligent comment. I wish there was more of that here. To reinforce your point, there is nothing desperate about releasing a 5DmkIII killer camera with 2 years worth of better technology. There is also nothing wrong with canon doing the same to capitalize on a good opportunity like nikon found in the high detail photography area. It is simply the way things always are in the camera industry, it is called competition, not desperation and surely the nikon base is very excited about this camera as it will sell like hot cakes for there is a perceptual gap between a budget full frame and a 5fps high MP body for studio and landscape.

and if you ask me, Nikon's lineup seems really good if you're looking to upgrade to full frame:

D4s for professional sports
D810 for studio and landscape
D750 for semi-professional action and wedding and event pros.
D610 for advanced amateurs
 
Desperation? more like excellent planning for if canon had such lineup many here would be praising their wide selection instead of making stupid comments about how this somehow weakens their system. Many people have asked for this camera and nikon listened which IMO is a quality canon should follow.

And yes the camera industry is in decline for everybody. If you think canon is somehow doing great you only have to see how mirrorless and smart phones are basically cannibalizing their crop frame cash cows. Do read the link posted to Thom's articles for some good insight on why both Nikon and Canon have very little to celebrate and a lot of work to do. The age of the DSRL is coming to an end so it is not surprising to see Nikon push more full frame as it is an advantage (for now) over mirrorless. Yet we know from sony, who is a much larger company that canon with much better sensor technology that full frame mirrorless will be the future. It is only a question of when.


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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: May 03, 2013, 06:56:30 AM »
I still don't know why they didn't give the 5D3 high quality cropped modes for wildlife and stuff and 2x2 block modes. They had so many years and such a market to conquer and dominate and it seems they got all side tracked in going other ways and maximizing profit margin and internal segmentation and this and that instead, so conservative too.

C-line protection. that's all.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom coming to iOS
« on: May 03, 2013, 06:45:20 AM »
I run full photoshop and LR on a surface pro already. Is it fast? well it is as fast as it is on a mac book air which is to say that it is better than nothing but certainly times and times faster than on the slow cpu of an ipad as the surface pro has a notebook cpu.

however even on a 10inch screen surface, there isn't enough room to do much. as such, having this on other tablets seems pointless unless they can connect to a mouse/keyboard/screen and augment their screen real state this way.

then there is the issue of precision. try using the PS tools with your fingers. not it isn't just that they are hard to select, which is something adobe could solve with larger dpi scaling, but your finger's precision in applying strokes is far worse than that of a mouse, not to mention your hand get in the way of 1/4 of the screen resulting in a strange experience.

so even with UI re-design, I question if I'd ever use PS and LR more than just occasional editing. If apple can put it's full OSX on an ipad somehow, the way Microsoft did and run all the laptop software, and allow for keyboard/mouse/monitor use, then they may have a winner. Otherwise I've been doing what they are promising for months (all my pro apps on tablets) and don't see why all the buzz is about.

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Noticeable difference yes, but still soft as all get out.  :-\

yeah, still has that 720p -> faux 1080p look of dslr video.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: May 02, 2013, 06:52:56 AM »
this is an excellent article on the ML hacks which although not related to the firmware in question, it does answer why the quality improvements are minor at best.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/10294/3-5k-canon-5d-mark-iii-raw-video-with-magic-lantern-and-latest-updates

apparently the 5DmkIII internal processing before encoding pretty much degrades the image quality while preparing it to exit the camera either via the h264 encoding engine or hdmi. In other words, this dashes all hopes to improve on the soft output via HDMI recording. It's a hardware limitations problem.

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With the latest firmware (1.21) we now know what the compression does not really change image quality, as the uncompressed H.264 output via HDMI looks just as rubbish as the internally recorded compressed H.264 (at 24Mbit in IPB mode).
-eoshd.com

however THIS looks way more interesting
http://www.eoshd.com/content/10294/3-5k-canon-5d-mark-iii-raw-video-with-magic-lantern-and-latest-updates

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That said, what they did find interesting was that the resolution of the DNGs they got from their RAW mode were way higher resolution than just the traditional h.264 video stream from Canon. Not sure if that means that Canon intentionally is crippling it, or if the h.264 encoding loses a lot of resolution, but, that could be useful for some purposes.

Of course, if you want Raw video at 2k, you'd just spend the same amount on a BMCC instead and get a much nicer workflow.

yup. BMCC FTW.
Regarding the RAW video hack of ML,
EOSHD has a really interesting update
http://www.eoshd.com/content/10250/canon-5d-2k-raw-feed-update-1920x720-possible-on-1000x-card

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Canon’s Chuck Westfall and Tim Smith say line skipping on the sensor was necessary to get down from the native sensor resolution of 21MP+ to 2MP, implying this results in moire and aliasing. However the 2K output of the sensor is much cleaner without the same moire issues as the final 1080p video, and resolution is much closer to 1080 lines than the mushy 5D Mark III 1080p is.

The softer image with moire and aliasing appears to be introduced by the image processor further (and crudely) resizing the 2K raw image, which seems unnecessary. All the camera should need to do is crop to 16:9 and compress the data, not reduce the resolution dramatically further like it is doing. It could be that in order to provide a simultaneous VGA live view feed and 1080p to the SD card, the 2K data has to be downrezed to a middle ground between 640×480 and 1920×1080, then upscaled back to 1080p but I’m purely speculating.

line skipping, yikes.  :( I'm sure we haven't heard the last of this yet.

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