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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D & EOS 7D Mark II Speculation [CR1]
« on: May 24, 2012, 11:58:03 PM »

Exactly what I was thinking - there's not that much to cut from the 5d3 (let alone "pro" features)  since tech has moved on since the release of the 5d2. It'll be interesting to see how Canon will fill the 5d2 gap and compete with Nikon's good aps-c bodies at the same time.

They don't need to 'cut' features off from the 5DII, they just need to 'upsize' the newest Rebel ( with all its features, build quality and limitations ) and put in a FF sensor ... And you get a perfectly legitimate 'Entry-level Full-frame' camera at an entry-level price.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 Pancake Coming [CR3]
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:28:12 PM »
The reality is that with the 'pancake lens" the size should be the same as other mirrorless with the lens mounted.

On a micro 4/3 camera, the flange distance is 20mm, so with a pancake lens you have 20mm + the depth of the pancake lens (20mm for the Panasonic 14mm pancake).  Flange distance for most SLRs is over 40mm, so regardless of how thin the pancake is, you get a larger package.

It is not fair to use MICRO 4/3 as the size comparision.  I am talking about APS-C or even FF in my suggestion

The idea and physical laws are the same, regardless of sensor size. 

If you extend the logic, it applies to the NEX system too. Why the NEX cameras can be so thin/slim ? Because of their lens flange distance.  The rumoured mirrorless lenses from Canon have a shorter back focus plane distance than the Sony ones. From previous CR citations, supposedly only 1mm distance! So you can imagine how close the flange distances are.

Also, part of the reason with closer flange distances is that it allows the design and use of smaller optics for an equivalent focal plane area of focus. 

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 Pancake Coming [CR3]
« on: May 23, 2012, 10:41:55 PM »
Speaking hypothetically, if a smaller sensor was used with a EF mount, couldn't the distance between the lens mount and sensor be reduced ?

No you can't.  The flange to sensor distance is fixed as that is the 'projection plane' of the image for a given lens design. The specific design distance which an image is to be projected , relative to its flange mount plane.


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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 Pancake Coming [CR3]
« on: May 22, 2012, 04:18:04 AM »
It will indeed be a jaw dropper if the mirrorless comes out as an APS-H ... !

Leica would have to be really worried if it has all the controls of a full-fledged DSLR and the form factor of a rangefinder !

I definitely would want one !!!!  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D & EOS 7D Mark II Speculation [CR1]
« on: May 21, 2012, 10:58:23 PM »
The information is scarce at best at this point, so the best we can speculate would be how Canon can 'differentiate' the 7DII if it were to keep its crown as the top crop-sensor DSLR.. ??

My guess is that is going be the same weather-resistant build quality as the 7D and 5DmkIII. If it has the same AF as the 5DIII, then it has to push up in its price. Possibly into the US$2500-3000/- realm ('Pro AF' comes at a price ... ) . To justify that, it would have to be an extra-special camera for users.  They might... just might put in an APS-H sensor with tweaks  for APS-C mode, EF-S lens compatibility.

It would be a fantastic 'bridge' camera between ASP-C and FF.  Essentially a mini-1DmkIV that many people want! 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5d3 compared on dpreview
« on: May 17, 2012, 12:02:22 AM »
If they want to 'normalize' and compare the images between two native resolutions, then they should normalize it to a resolution that's right in between the two. Then you would get a 'fairer' comparison.

Since its 22Mp and 36MP, a 'normalized' resolution of 29Mp would be a better comparison ???

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon to Announce 2 Cameras in June [CR2]
« on: May 16, 2012, 11:55:35 PM »
A mirrorless FF would be absolutely awesome... it would get the Leica M9 into loads of sales problems ...

BUT ... that isn't likely to happen anytime soon as its not a mass market item.

My guess is, its a camera with the G1X sensor, custom lenses that are ultra small,( since it has such a short back-focus distance from previous patent information).  Will fit EF and EF-s lenses with an adaptor as well as compatible with the full range of Canon flashes and share some of the Rebel series stuff such as remotes and maybe batteries.

A US$1,000 kit at launch.  ???   :P ;D

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Lenses / Re: Blank slate 5D3 lens lineup help
« on: April 16, 2012, 12:59:56 AM »
I have both the 35L and the 100 macro too. Running the 5DII, I use the Sigma 12-24, Canon 24-70 and the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS L.

It basically covers 95% of what I might shoot.

If the MTF charts are anything to go by, perhaps you could opt for the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC with the 16-28 f/2.8 for that budget you have.

And since you're keeping your 70-300, you'll have a complete range which covers almost anything that you might do while travelling or normal shooting. Just short some specialized areas like birding and stuff of the sort.

Food for thought ....

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EOS Bodies / Re: DXO vs Reality
« on: March 31, 2012, 08:28:47 AM »

Sorry but it's Throwing tests away is like saying: "I don't care how many HP has my engine. I don't care how fast does it accelerate. Those are just numbers." o
Of course - those are just numbers comparing if one car is faster than the other. That's about numbers as people like to see things comparable. It doesn't say what comfort is inside, nor where and how gently you drive.
Another example - I don't care if my camera/lens resolves 1000lp/mm or 400 = I don't care if my camera has 8MP or 20MP = I don't care if my camera shoots 8fps or 3fps, 14 bits TR or 8 bits TR and so on...
Let's not get crazy. Not everything is comparable but there are important things that are. Better camera will not make a photographer of anybody - that's obvious.  But why not look on comparisons, tests or numbers? I don't get it.
Charts and graphs are simple enhancement to specification. What's wrong in it?

Well, there is some reality in that but also some error in the parallels.

In the context of the car, the DXO results are often more like "volume of air exhausted", "heat dissipation rate" and "150-200km/h rate".

In the grand scheme of things in practically using a car or camera, they are mostly moot ... 

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Lenses / Re: Patent: A new 16-35 f/2.8 or Faster Concept?
« on: March 30, 2012, 04:35:47 AM »
I would much prefer a wider lens than an updated, faster 16-35. The 14-24mm people talk about would be great but as someone has already pointed out - would it support filters? the Nikon 14-24mm (that's been around since 2007!) doesn't support screw on filters but is this something that Canon could develop? who knows. I think 16-35 is all we're going to see for a while

If you're prepared to pay for filters with at least 128mm diameter of clear glass area ?!! If not, then its not even an idea to start with ...

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FF in a mirrorless - I don't think so.  Why?  Because the idea of mirrorless is to miniaturize everything right?  So if canon releases a mirrorless, it likely would be a compact body.  FF requires larger lenses because the lens needs to project a larger image circle.  So FF mirrorless would be small body and large lens.  The ergonomics on this would be a nighmare.  I too like the idea of having a compact FF, but having a beer can attached to a deck of cards probably won't work out well.

FF in a Rebel - probably not with this next round of rebels, but eventually yes.

FF in sub 5D mark iii - if the "entry level" ff rumor is true, this will be the case.  My guess is that it will be an xxD camera, not an xxxD camera.

If you look at what Leica has done with their manual lenses for the M9 and wrap a AF USM motor around them, are they likely to be as big as EF lenses of equivalent maximum aperture ?

One of the reasons why EF glass has to be that big is because of the lens backplane to focal plane of sensor. The further it is, the bigger it has to be. For a mirrorless system, this distance can in theory be reduced to almost zero. Practically, about 1mm. Current EF lenses and EF-S lenses is in the range of 20-35mm. M4/3 lenses about 12-20mm. Leica somewhere in there.  Flange distance does not directly co-relate to the backplane distance, though it will have some influence in the overall scheme of things.

But it is not very likely for now that the Canon mirrorless will be FF. Too big a jump for the market to accept and also, the limited range of lenses that's specifically designed for such a 'high-end' mirrorless camera to take-off successfully. It will possibly carry the same sensor as the G1x if market penetration is the objective. However, if Canon decides to do something that turns the market on its head, and grab some of the Leica 'halo', a FF mirrorless system is not out of the question either, they have the sensors as well as the resources already. Just need to create additional adaptor mounts that allow the use of EF and EF-s lenses with full AF functionality on such a camera. 

As for a sub-5dMkIII, that's very unlikely if the market differentiation is to be achieved. For Canon, 'entry' means the lowest spec's that the market is willing to accept. And that was the same thing that prompted the creation of the original Rebel. It had the 'minimum specifications' which the market was willing to accept for the targeted market prices of sub US$1000/- back then. For this case, as it is now, the entry specifications is more or less what the current or upcoming Rebel carries if the target market price is to be US$1500-US$2000 ( which I assume is the market threshold for a 'basic' FF DSLR here). The 1100D is below 'entry' for most people, which it shows in comparison when you look at the numbers moved/sold compared to the current and past Rebel models.


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Lenses / Re: Patent: Canon EF 2.8x Teleconverter
« on: March 27, 2012, 10:09:33 PM »

A 70-200 f/2.8 at 70mm has a maximum opening 25mm in diameter, agree?

A 70-200 f/2.8 at 200mm has a maximum opening... 25mm in diameter.

AFAIK, there's no physical mechanism opening the blades wider as the focal length increases. Rather, the zooming in optically magnifies that 25mm aperture such that it appears to be 71mm in diameter (at the 200mm example).

I see no reason they couldn't employ that principle in teleconverters.

That said, sure, I probably I read it wrong, hence me asking what they meant by that bullet point.


I don't think you understand the fixed f-number zoom lenses properly. If the 70-200mm had a maximum opening of 25mm at 200mm, then it would only be f/8 zoomed in. There is in fact a physical mechanism opening the blades wider as the focal length increases.


No, it has 2.8, because the pupil is magnified by the front element moving relative to the pupil.

If they could make the blades open to 71mm in the same form factor, they sell it as a 70-200f/1-2.8.

Zooming a lens doesn't mechanically widen the pupil. It optically magnifies it. 

http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=523730&postcount=2
There is a lot of mis-information on the Internet about how "constant aperture" zooms work, but the most lucid explanation comes from Bob Shell:

    Comments from Bob Shell (January 8, 2003):
    "An f-stop is the ratio between the focal length of the lens and the *apparent* size of the lens opening as viewed through the front. It must take into account the magnification factor of all lens elements in front of the diaphragm, because it is the size of the opening that the light "sees" as it passes through the lens, not the actual physical diameter of the diaphragm opening.
    It is this fact that allows companies to make constant aperture zoom lenses which maintain a constant f-stop when the focal length changes, because such lenses are designed so that the magnification factor (diopter value) of all elements in front of the diaphragm changes as focal length is changed to hold the aperture value constant."



That's interesting.... hmm, think I need to do some reading. Thanks for sharing.

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Lenses / Re: Patent: Canon EF 2.8x Teleconverter
« on: March 27, 2012, 10:18:41 AM »
Would be the perfect companion for the 200mm f/2.0 IS L though ...  ;D

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To all the people who say that a new $2,000 slr FF would make a killing.  Your right it would.  It would kill the 5Dm3.  Unless you can tell me a way to offer a new $2,000 slr FF that differs enough in specs from the 5Dm3 that would justify a $1,500 difference between the cameras I'm calling shinanigans.

Just fit the FF sensor into a suitably sized body and carry all the features, build quality of the upcoming new Rebel. Keep the framerate at <=3fps.  And video functions of 1 generation ago.

US$1500~$1999 is something which the market will most probably jump on en-masse like they did with the original Rebel all those years ago at US$999/- . 

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My entry lvl full frame would be...

5dmkii sensor (to cut costs as I'm sure they have decreased manufacturing costs over the years and it's still a wonderful sensor). Alternatively, 1dx or 5d3 sensor, which ever is less expensive to manufacture. Though I think the lower MP 1dx sensor would be more forgiving to cheap lenses.
Rebel quality body with an articulating screen.
Rebel quality AF system
3-4 fps
~96% view finder
EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS kit lens; or a new, inexpensive 28 - 85ish mm f3.5 - 5.6 IS lens with silent autofocus
Digic V
Single SD slot
Small rebel level image buffer
pop up flash (with speedlight control)

If all that could be priced for $1600 (or $1250 body only), I suspect consumers would be blown away by the image quality and low light ability as compared to current rebels.

In my opinion, such a camera would place the full frame digital world into the hands of the masses. I have no doubt Best Buy sales people could be instructed to sell all the advantages full frame offers over a crop sensor.

You know, I have almost exactly the same idea !!!

Give and take a few minor differences in overall specifications :

- Everything you'll find in a T4i ( AF, Buffer, SD card, pop-up flash, viewfinder specs, articulated screen etc, etc... )
- In order of probability in sensor used : 5dII, 5DIII, 1DX
- Body size of the 60D
- Limited video 1080p 30fps only (no other options)
- Digic V ( not the '+' version )
- US$1500 (body only)

And it'll turn the market on its head once again like how the original 300D or Rebel did!!!



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