On Craigslist there are several 15-85's on sale for about 300 also.... so we'll see thanks
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Would help if you posted where you were? different countries/locations would have different results...
I have the Yongnuo 565, a Canon 430exii and an Yongnuo ST-E2 controller. This is a nice setup that gives plenty of control. The Yongnuo 565 does not have hypersync or commander mode, but other than that, it is really nice and powerful, and has all the other functions of the canon 580ex ii.
With some of the recommendations coming in. the 17-55 2.8 sounds interesting but in the end do any EF-S lens stand up image wise to L glass?
They say it's the best EF-S lens. They say - if you don't switch to full frame camera like 5D2, you will be fully satisfied with the quality of this lens with the image quality comparable to L lens. "L" doesn't always means the best image quality. It's also built or weather sealing (sometimes). Professionalists using their lens work with them much frequent than hobbyist, so the glass has "harder" life. It has to be more resistant to treatment.