Chip costs for the sensor won't allow for pricing to be that low and everyone making a markup. Compromises made to the 6D at the $2k price point seem to piss everyone off, so to think of a $1k price, it wouldn't even be a p&s type. Refurb on sale gets a 5d2 down to 1,400-1,500 range, but that's about as low at it will go.
I don't believe that the FF sensors cost dramatically more to make than 1.6 crop sensors. They use the difference to allow them to sell cameras at a lower price point to 95% of the people buying cameras without undercutting the prices on their own FF models.
It may cost a lot to develop new sensor models, but I really don't think FF sensors cost a whole lot more money to crank out than a crop sensor, and I don't think either one really cost as much per unit to fab as people imagine. Chip fab facilities in Taiwan, etc., just crank these things out like saltine crackers. There should be no reason camera sensor production economics should be dramatically different from all the other chips and things we are surrounded with. The difference is in the huge markup they are allowed due to very little competition. High-end camera sensors have not become commoditized like most other microelectronics.
The manufacturing cost of a 24x36mm sensor is many times higher than the APS
Replacing 5dmk2 sensor= cost of purchasing 8000 SEK = around 1200 USD three years ago
And the point is missed again.
1. The fact Canon charged you 1200 dollars to replace a sensor does not mean it costs common that much to make it. Actually it proves the opposite. Canon made a profit on that part plus labor cost too.
2. Maybe a FF sensor does cost Canon several times more to manufacture than a crop sensor costs canon to make. But so if the crop sensor only costs canon 25 bucks to make, then you are talking only a couple hundred or few hundred bucks.
@ScottyP Using your very flawed logic it only costs 10-15 bucks to manufacture an APS-C sensor. Mikael highlights the fact that it costs several times more to make a FF sensor (remember that the surface area of a FF sensor is nearly 2.5x bigger than an APS-C sensor).
In truth, you DO NOT KNOW how much it costs to make, only Canon Inc. does. Speculating about something you know absolutely nothing about is the folly of futility
What is the most expensive component in a modern DSLR camera? I think most people would say; probably the sensor.
Again, using your fundamentally flawed logic, if a FF sensor costs just $25 more than an APS-C one, and Canon can manage to sell me a 7D for 1000 euros, but want 3600 euros for a new 5D, then Canon are making an EXTRA TWO-AND-A-HALF GRAND PROFIT on the 5D3
Sometimes it is a good idea to go back and read what you've written. Then contextualize it. Look at the real world and put it into practice.
Maybe I didn't express that, or maybe you only skimmed what I wrote. First
, I said a crop sensor probably costs $25 bucks, not $15 bucks, for Canon to churn out. This could be $35 bucks, but no way more than $50 bucks BASED ON WHAT THEY SELL CROP CAMERAS FOR. The sensor does have an entire camera attached to it.
Also, Canon makes a profit, and the retailer makes a profit. How much room do you see for all those other expenses plus all those other profits if they are selling the crop body for $500.00 or $600.00??Secondly
, I allowed for sake of argument that it really does cost 'several times more to make a FF sensor". Several means "four" in colloquial English. So, $25 x 4 = $100. $35 x 4 = $140. $50 x 4 = $200.Thirdly
, look at the 6D. Sells pre-order for $2100. You know it will be going for $1700 or $1800 in 6 months. You lose any and all credibility if you claim the FF sensor in that thing costs Canon more than few hundred to make, given the cost of all the other parts in the camera, plus labor, plus profit to Canon plus profit to the retailer, etc...
Yes, the sensor probably is the most expensive single part, but there are many many other parts in there too, and they all cost money also. The processor, the shutter, the motherboard, the LCD screen(s), the body, and hundreds more. Plus the cost to assemble all these parts into a camera. There is just so much you can reasonably claim the sensor alone costs Canon to manufacture.