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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's Mirrorless Entry

« on: June 19, 2012, 10:29:51 PM »

Why couldn't it be an FD-mount and offer focus peaking like the Sony's NEX line.  It would make using our old glass fun again, plus there would be a ton of cheap, but good quality glass to use already. And make an EF-mount adapter for some L-glass goodness 

Oh and I really hope it's at least an APS-C sensor.  I mean they already have a sensor made that would work perfectly in the T4i, since it has the center phase detect pixels (I think) to help AF. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Odds & Ends: 70D, 7D2, New Full Frame, D600 & Photoshop CS6

« on: June 19, 2012, 02:58:22 PM »

5) You can't have both an entry-level full frame camera and a flagship APS-C body. Setting aside the fact that this mysterious full frame camera has yet to surface, why can't you? If given a choice between a fully-equipped 7DII that basically mirrors the 5DIII in everything but sensor size vs. a stripped down full framer that causes all my telephoto lenses to lose more than a third of their reach, I know which I will pick. Both cameras can exist side by side because they both have different target markets.

Of course we know the differences between a flagship APS-C and an entry-level FF, but that's not the point. We're the 1% who follow this stuff every day.  For the average consumer, they're going to walk into a Best Buy and have two options with vastly different feature sets for a similar price.

Can you imagine a 16 year old Best Buy rep trying to explain the differences between the two bodies at a store?  It'd probably go something like this:

Joe: "These two bodies are basically the same price, what's the difference?"
Best Buy kid: "Well....ummm....hang on a sec.  Wait! It says right here that this 6D has 22 megapixels and this 7D mark II only has 18 megapixels. So obviously the 6D is better."
Joe: "Oh cool! 22 megapixels sounds great!  But what's this thing about 10 FPS on the 7D mark II? What does FPS stand for?"
Best Buy kid: "Ummmm....hang on....I'm not seeing anything on the display about that, but I'm pretty sure it just means it's a little bit better at blocking out the sun than the other one."
Joe: "Well that won't be a problem because I always wear sunglasses."
Best Buy kid: "Well then it looks like the 22 megapixel one is the way to go!"
Joe: "Sounds good to me!  Hang on a sec though, I'm going to put a picture of my new camera on Instagram."


In all seriousness though, I think you're right that they can co-exist, I just think it will be more difficult to do if Canon tries to squeeze three new bodies in between the T4i and the 5D mark III without stealing some of the 5D's thunder.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Odds & Ends: 70D, 7D2, New Full Frame, D600 & Photoshop CS6

« on: June 19, 2012, 03:29:19 AM »

That leaves APS-H as the easiest technology to use - as it has already been developed into the best sports camera, So trickling that technology down to the sports camera would cost least, be quick to get to market and give Canon a high profit body (due to the low R&D)

I'm right there with ya on the 70d being able to be bumped up to the 7d's spot, and that an aps-h sensor'd body would be a great alternative for the affordable pro sports camera, rather than another aps-c body.

Also, they bumped the 1d series up to FF, why can't they bump the 7d up to aps-h?  Sounds reasonable to me...then again when has that ever mattered? 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Odds & Ends: 70D, 7D2, New Full Frame, D600 & Photoshop CS6

« on: June 19, 2012, 03:19:49 AM »

Make the 70d a 7dii-equivalent, but price it a few hundred less than the FF entry level camera, and everybody is happy (including Canon since they won't have two cameras at the same price competing for sales).

Won't happen. The 60D has become the "joke" of the Canon EOS bodies (I have seen it being called "The Rebel that should have been") compared to features found on previous XXD bodies. (What? The 30D had 5 fps as well... wait, at least the 30D had a metal body...) Tell me what other Canon EOS body was DOWNGRADED and then UPGRADED to the flagship body.

Like I have said, the 7D was designed and marketed as the FLAGSHIP APS-C camera body and will remain so. Can anyone give me a reasonable reason why the 7D replacement (and continue the 7D name) will not continue this tradition?? Oh and what marketing strategy are you basing your logic on? Remember, marketing (sales based on previous bodies) is the only thing Canon will be concerned with when they make a APS-C replacement and if you don't believe me, then you going to be sadly dissapointed with your prediction(s).

The 60D was "downgraded" so AS NOT TO DIRECTLY COMPETE with the 7D. Fact, fact, fact...

So now why would the so called "future" 70D compete with the 7D OR it's replacement? Based on history, the 70D should be, "feature-wise" somewhere in the lines of the 40D or XSi.... Makes sense to me. I mean why not? The new T4i is darn near a 60D in a slightly smaller body, so where does that leave the 70D? 7D status? They already have a 7D status camera body, THE 7D!!!

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Let's just assume here for a second (this is a rumors site here so cut me some slack) that if and when the D600 is released at around $1500 (the D800 rumors of $3K were spot on if you remember) that Canon will more than likely release a new body to compete.  All signs point to an entry-level FF anyways so it's more than likely to compete on pricing.  So if Canon does release this body in the $1500-$2000 range, they're going to release a new version of the 7D in the same exact price range, if not more?  That just doesn't make much sense - from a marketing stand point. I mean there's already enough confusion for consumers as it stands now, let alone if they release two more new bodies, one with the superior FF sensor with less features and one with an aps-c sensor with more features, at nearly the same price. Just doesn't add up if you look at it from a pricing perspective.

A 70d bump into the premium aps-c spot in the lineup makes sense.  If they did however progress both the 60d and 7d with aps-c sensors, then what?  A $850 T4i, a $1500ish 70d, and a $2000ish 7dii? Doesn't add up with a prospective entry-level FF (unless of course Canon's answer to the D600 is a $2700 6D FF camera) 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Odds & Ends: 70D, 7D2, New Full Frame, D600 & Photoshop CS6

« on: June 19, 2012, 12:54:47 AM »

I dont care what its called but I would like to see a high end APS-H sensor equiped camera that is a 5D form factor.

I don't think the APS-H is "dead" as others would think. I would believe that Canon will produce a APS-H high performace camera body in the next year or so, based on the 120MP APS-H prototype sensor they made a year ago.

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120 megapixels?! Those'd sell like hotcakes!  Why aren't they selling those already??? 

In all seriousness though, I think the safest bet here is an upgraded 70d to the top of the line aps-c, and getting rid of the 7d line.  Why?  Because Canon won't just let Nikon steal all the thunder with an entry-level FF.  And with an entry level FF at a similar price point to a 7dii, what's the point of the 7d line? (We know the point, but most consumers wouldn't) Why not just go back to the old days where xxD was top of the line aps-c?

Make the 70d a 7dii-equivalent, but price it a few hundred less than the FF entry level camera, and everybody is happy (including Canon since they won't have two cameras at the same price competing for sales).

Oh and if they do decide to release an entry-level full frame, my money is going to it being called a 6d 

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Video & Movie / Re: Formula Drift Palm Beach Video

« on: June 18, 2012, 02:48:28 PM »

Really cool video! I love Formula D and it can't get back here (Vegas) soon enough!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]

« on: June 12, 2012, 11:03:13 PM »

If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years.  Talk about long waits. 

Well that just changed.  New MacBook Pros look awesome.

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EOS Bodies / Re: [Rumor]3D and 70D specs

« on: June 04, 2012, 03:00:38 AM »

Why release a body (3D) with specs that make 1DX and 5DM3 owners lust for? the 5DM3 is already pulling some 1DX customers into a cheaper body. If I was making some decisions at Canon, I would make the 7DM2 entry level FF to compete with Nikon d600 as there are plenty of crop bodies already.

3D actually make sense to me.  Nikon has 36MP D800, so Canon need a high MP camera to response to D800.  I don't know Canon will make 7D2 to FF or have 6D to response to D600.

If the 3D is supposed to be a response to the D800, does that make the MKIII competitor the rumored D600? Doesn't make much sense in that regard, and besides, how would Canon ever release a camera with those specs in the same ballpark on pricing as the D800? With that statline - it's got to be getting near 1DX pricing territory.  Probably $5k+

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Lenses / Re: A small walkabout lens - lay it on me!

« on: June 04, 2012, 02:47:22 AM »

How about the old EF 24mm f/2.8?  It's small, decently sharp, and reasonably priced. However, it doesn't have usm, so it's got noisy AF and it's built like the 50 1.8.  If you don't mind waiting, and paying significantly more, the new 24mm f/2.8 IS will probably be much better and still be small enough for you.

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Lenses / Re: Bokeh...is the look getting dated?

« on: June 04, 2012, 02:38:40 AM »

Diffraction is a lens property, and it is the same for a given lens, no matter what body you attach. 
 
A High MP body has better resolution and can see diffraction better, but it is not any more or less.

Actually diffraction has a lot to do with the body (copied and pasted from the-digital-picture.com):

I guess you misunderstood a bit.
It says that the higher the pixel density, the sooner you reach the point in which diffraction takes its toll. It's the same as when a not-so-sharp lens looks acceptable on a 10MP camera, awful on a 18MP one.
This doesn't make diffraction a body property as much as it doesn't make it sharpness.

Potayto-potaahto.  Yes, technically, diffraction is a lens property.  But...it's awfully hard to use a lens for taking pictures all by itself, without a camera attached.  So, like sharpness, diffraction is effectively a property of an imaging system - lens plus camera.

I stand corrected.    I guess I did misinterpret that a bit, however I think Neuro summed it up perfectly.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Odds & Ends - Mirrorless [CR1]

« on: June 02, 2012, 01:36:20 AM »

It will be interesting to see what Canon can do (or will do) with the mirrorless.  There are so many suggestion (read it s demand) in this site: smaller size, reasonable priced, BIG sensor, small zooms etc. Unfortunately, they mutually exclusive. I am interested in seeing how fast is the AF or does it comes with MF and aview finder ( like the M9)?

The specs are not mutually exclusive:

1. SIZE - no problem
"FF" (36x24mm) can be packaged in a very compact and very high-quality camera without any problem.
example: 124.5 x 77.5 x 32 millimeters, sturdy metal body, weight only 13.405 oz./380.1g with batteries
http://www.cameraquest.com/cle.htm

2. LENS SIZE - no big problem
just look at M-mount lenses not only from Leica but also from Voigtlander and other manufacturers. Even a decent f/4 kit-zoom  could be made very compact and with decent optical quality.  As a matter of fact, no need to develop a new proprietary mount. Just take the patent-expired Leica M-mount and electrify it, using Canon pin layout and mountr-lens protocol. It would be backwards compatible with M-mount lenses  w/ manual focusing.

3. FAST and 100% ACCURATE AF - no problem
Just take the approach of the Nikon 1 hybrid AF sized to FF. Take the 5D 3 sensor, take 10.000 sensels out of it for in-sensor-plane Phase-Detect AF for ultrafast stage 1 "pre-focusing" and then hand over for stage 2: DIGIC 5+ powered, fast and 100% accurate Contrast AF. All back-/frontfocus issues with any lens will disappear. No need for microfocus-adjustment. 

4. VIEWFINDER - no big problem
Take the Fuji X1-Pro approach and make it REALLY RIGHT. Take the best available 3 Megapixel OLED plus parallax-corrected optical viewfinder. Users decide, whether they want to use optical, electronic or combination in a specific situation.

5. PRICE - no problem
same sensor, DIGIC, electronics and many other components from 5D 3 but minus the entire mirrorbox assembly (demanding very minute alignment = labor intensive) and minus prism. Therefore price should be somehat less, lets say 3 grand USD / Euro for starters.

Now, if I can think of this camera, Canon should be able to figure it out too and build it. :-)

Take my money right now.

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Lenses / Re: Bokeh...is the look feeling dated?

« on: June 01, 2012, 03:46:52 AM »

Interesting that recent cameras are getting defraction earlier than older models.

Diffraction is a lens property, and it is the same for a given lens, no matter what body you attach. 
 
A High MP body has better resolution and can see diffraction better, but it is not any more or less.

Actually diffraction has a lot to do with the body (copied and pasted from the-digital-picture.com):

* DLA (Diffraction Limited Aperture) is the result of a mathematical formula that approximates the aperture where diffraction begins to visibly affect image sharpness at the pixel level. Diffraction at the DLA is only barely visible when viewed at full-size (100%, 1 pixel = 1 pixel) on a display or output to a very large print. As sensor pixel density increases, the narrowest aperture we can use to get perfectly pixel sharp images gets wider.

DLA does not mean that narrower apertures should not be used - it is simply the point where image sharpness begins to be compromised for increased DOF and longer exposures. And, higher resolution sensors generally continue to deliver more detail well beyond the DLA than lower resolution sensors - until the "Diffraction Cutoff Frequency" is reached (a much narrower aperture). The progression from sharp the soft is not an abrupt one - and the change from immediately prior models to new models is usually not dramatic.


He lists the DLAs of many Canon DSLRs in each of his reviews for comparisons.

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: 5d MKIII with 24-70 I

« on: May 28, 2012, 06:52:49 PM »

Great shots! Really like the car shots!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600

« on: May 26, 2012, 04:10:24 AM »

Briansquibb, being new posting here I don't know how to incorporate your question in my reply yet. Motorbiking, I currently live in Southeast Asia, have been on and off for the last nine years. So just motorbiking travelling around the region here. The views and adventures gets more in focus than the actual biking as such.

Jotho - If you click on the little box that says "quote" in the upper right part of a person's message, it'll add their quote to a new message for you, and you can type your response beneath it. If you're not sure it'll look right, just check out the preview and tinker with it 

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600

« on: May 26, 2012, 03:57:44 AM »

is it an sony Alpha 900 on budget?...maybe they are repackaging the unsold a900as nikon d600

They probably just turned the "a" into a "d" and flipped the 9 upside down. Voila!