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If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

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Yes, I know this entry is talking about a camera for stills, but chiming in from a video perspective here --

I love my Canon 5DIII for video but am (with no malice or bias) about to buy a Sony A7S body, as it's 4K capable with 14 stops of dynamic range and high ISO for filmmaking purposes, and using it with Canon glass.

I know we're discussing a high megapixel body for stills, but if the powers that be at Canon are listening, it's worth noting, that, from a video perspective, Canon is about to begin losing people.

I'll still keep my 5DIII body with soft spot in my heart, but Canon needs to start listening, to both the photography and video DSLR shooters, lest they lose some.

Yes, it's hard to hear, we love you Canon, but you need to shake things up and be bold.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Black Rapid Backpack Strap
« on: September 25, 2014, 10:17:48 PM »
It's a cool idea but I wouldn't buy this for the reason that I like to keep my BlackRapid RS-7 separate and put it on underneath my F-Stop Guru backpack. That way, I can still take my backpack off and keep the BR strap w/5DIII securely on my body while taking out a new lens.

If I had to take the camera off before removing the backpack, it would defeat the purpose and be awkward. My two cents :)

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It's nice to hear that Canon Cinema EOS products are being used on such a "high" profile project. Couldn't resist ;-) Canon products are top notch and easy to use with probably the best "out of the box" picture quality, so no surprise they were selected by NASA.

However, as a filmmaker who frequents this site I can't just take a press release with that info as a substitute for much needed video spec bumps in the Cinema EOS and HDSLR video line.

I'll need a 4K-capable DSLR with high ISO that matches the Sony A7S or the Sony FS7 on specs and price to buy another Canon body.

No hate here, just love and wanting Canon to pull out the stops instead of worrying about cannibalizing themselves.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Video Tested By Gizmodo
« on: September 18, 2014, 06:55:23 PM »
There is barely a difference between the 3- that's what we're supposed to see here. Canon seems not want to compete in the video DSLR market anymore. Sad- it's the end of an era, really :(

If they're smart, they'll develop a second line of Cinema EOS DSLRs that are more affordable (and thus more competitive) for filmmakers and videographers.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Surprise Cinema EOS Announcement for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: September 13, 2014, 02:55:43 PM »
I hope this does mean a 7DC development announcement or a C100II update. Needed specs to compete and make me buy another camera body from Canon would be-

4K
possible RAW DNG option (they'll never do that).
120fps in 720 at least (preferably 240fps in 720 and 120fps in 1080)
low light ISO sensitivity on par with 5DIII or better

Love the ergonomics of the C100/300/500 series but for functionality am heavily considering Sony at this point, especially with their S-log2 and 3 on A7S and now FS7.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does the reveal of the final 7D2 specs make you feel?
« on: September 11, 2014, 05:38:01 PM »
No 4K or RAW so disappointed but not surprised- I'm curious to see if there are any features Canon tries to push as video upgrades besides dual pixel...an included intervalometer is cool for us filmmakers.

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Hi transpo1.
Not sure what leads you to that conclusion, they will probably need to implement 4K in 7DII to retain market share against other manufacturers that have it in comparable price / quality bodies already. I don't think the cinema range will be under threat from a 7DII.
It is good that Canon are keeping abreast of the 4K standards and implementing changes via the firmware though.

Cheers, Graham.

There you have it- definitely no 4K in the 7DII if anyone was still holding out hope.

Thanks, Graham, I completely agree and hope you're right -- they should implement 4K -- but am just reacting to the current 1080p video specs being bandied about.

There you have it- definitely no 4K in the 7DII if anyone was still holding out hope.

I was thinking the opposite.  This looks more like additional ways to segregate the Cinema line from the consumer line if they start pushing 4k down the ladder toward the consumer products like the 7D replacement.

Gosh, you know -- I was a bit sleepy this morning ;) So looking at from the reverse angle, you may be right. This could be just to appease the Cinema EOS crowd, some of whom could be angry if a 4K 7DII is announced.

We'll know soon enough. I thought it strange there is RAW acceleration for Intel Iris Pro Graphics, which is a consumer graphics card, without a consumer range camera from Canon that does RAW video. Interesting.

I'd be somewhat satisfied if the 7DII does RAW 1080p and 4K compressed ;)

Are you a PRO?.

Because in a different thread someone wrote PROS will not use the 7D MK2 for work even if it had 4K.

Something i can not agree to when i look at the GH4.

I would be interested what the common senus is on this topic, on this more geeky than artsy forum.

Yes, I am a pro.

Pros will use it, even if it's just compressed Motion JPEG 4K like the 1DC.

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Hi transpo1.
Not sure what leads you to that conclusion, they will probably need to implement 4K in 7DII to retain market share against other manufacturers that have it in comparable price / quality bodies already. I don't think the cinema range will be under threat from a 7DII.
It is good that Canon are keeping abreast of the 4K standards and implementing changes via the firmware though.

Cheers, Graham.

There you have it- definitely no 4K in the 7DII if anyone was still holding out hope.

Thanks, Graham, I completely agree and hope you're right -- they should implement 4K -- but am just reacting to the current 1080p video specs being bandied about.

There you have it- definitely no 4K in the 7DII if anyone was still holding out hope.

I was thinking the opposite.  This looks more like additional ways to segregate the Cinema line from the consumer line if they start pushing 4k down the ladder toward the consumer products like the 7D replacement.

Gosh, you know -- I was a bit sleepy this morning ;) So looking at from the reverse angle, you may be right. This could be just to appease the Cinema EOS crowd, some of whom could be angry if a 4K 7DII is announced.

We'll know soon enough. I thought it strange there is RAW acceleration for Intel Iris Pro Graphics, which is a consumer graphics card, without a consumer range camera from Canon that does RAW video. Interesting.

I'd be somewhat satisfied if the 7DII does RAW 1080p and 4K compressed ;)

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There you have it- definitely no 4K in the 7DII if anyone was still holding out hope.

The Intel Iris Pro Graphics RAW graphics accelerator sounds cool- it may set the stage for the new round of Cinema EOS cameras to come out next year.


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That is true- the Cinema EOS line has always listed as non-returnable. Once you open the box, those cams are too expensive for a retail store to turn around and sell used or refurbished! Plus, filmmakers might buy and use them for a film, then return- they've been known to do that ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you planning to purchase a 7D2
« on: August 27, 2014, 10:27:51 PM »
From a video perspective --

Nope, not unless it exceeds the rumored video specs and comes with some massive video improvements that include

A) 4K internal video recording or
B) native 1080p RAW recording or
C) something I haven't thought of but which would make a killer video feature (no, not dual-pixel autofocus because we filmmakers tend to manually focus everything)

Here's hoping that Canon will surprise and I'll have to empty my pockets! :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:16:27 PM »
Don't you understand how many cameras you could sell?

I'm sure they understand that quite well.  I'm not sure why so many people seem to think they know more than Canon...

Neuro: respect your Canon input a great deal.

As a loyal Canon customer, I know that they must have great data on the video market.

My frustration lies with them holding back on video features that competitors are releasing in similarly priced camera bodies.

There are two parts to my frustration-

1) I want a Canon camera with 4K, not a Sony or Panasonic, because Canon makes better stuff.

2) They could sell a TON of 7DII cameras on volume if they added those features and make up any loss of $$ on their Cinema EOS line from that.

So, my hunch is that the only reasons they refuse to do it is for the reason we've suspected all along- to protect and save face with their pro video line- not a good enough reason to prevent release of a great product that would fly off shelves in my opinion (such as a 7DII with 4K or RAW).

Pro video people are going to be buying GH4s and A7Ss or perhaps Blackmagics as backup cameras when they could be buying 7DIIs.

In other words, Canon's not capitalizing on their market lead in DSLR video and not following the Apple rule: cannibalize yourself before someone else does it to you.

Are there really that many indie movie makers that are shooting in 4K nowadays or is this just all baloney? Who here has a 4K monitor or software that can edit 4K video? I have yet to actually watch something in 4K. So why is it all of a sudden we need this in a camera that is primarily designed to shoot sports and wildlife pictures?

We all know that ML will squeeze 4K out of it anyway, so chill out with the 4K already.

An explanation: for film / video makers, having 4K is more about future proofing when 4K hits big and increased resolution in 1080p, not about playback for normal videos. It's like taking a small JPEG and using it for quick web distribution but wanting to have the .CR2 file for later use in case you want to blow it up for print.

That said, I'd be happy with a RAW 1080p feature in place of 4K because it would offer increased dynamic range.

But I don't want a Magic Lantern solution- I want a stable, well thought out Canon solution for 4K and / or RAW because it's more reliable and because I own enough Canon glass and bodies that I **care** about the company's future :) ;)


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EOS Bodies / Re: Are These The EOS 7D Mark II Specifications?
« on: August 23, 2014, 11:14:30 AM »
Regarding the sensor...very disappointing. Sounds like a re-purposed 70D sensor with a DPAF improvement. I was REALLY, REALLY hoping Canon would really show something impressive on the sensor front with the 7D II. If the camera really does hit the streets with a 20mp sensor, I fully expect it to have the same DR limitations as all of Canon's previous sensors. Extremely disappointing.  :'( Guess we'll have to wait for the 5D IV to see if Canon can actually step up their sensor IQ game or not...which is just...so far down the road...Bleh.

Also worried about the "fine detail"...I really don't want them to start removing AA filters. That is just a dumb trend that photographers like simply because they do not understand the value of an AA filter, or the ease by which AA softening can be sharpened.

+1

it sorta almost leads one to believe that Japanese Canon Fangirls post here where they were claiming that Canon feels they have Canon users trapped enough that it won't matter if the bodies they push out can't keep up as per sensors and even other features at times (still not a hint that they are actually moving any DSLR sensors to new fabs and the panny gets 4k and yet the super new 7D2 which was promised to have revolutionary video and this and that is still 1080p)

and yeah the AA filter-less stuff I am not a big fan of, maybe when we get to 180MP FF or 60MP APS-C or something.

I'm curious about these video specs- seems like something's missing.

If Canon really does not include 4K or 1080p RAW this camera is DOA for me. Any 7DII will have to have something really spectacular in order for me to buy it in addition to my 5DIII.

4K or RAW or both, please Canon. Don't you understand how many cameras you could sell?

But of course, I'm just among those lowly 10% of video buyers (which is a statistic that could be doubled or tripled quite easily if 4K was included ;)

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF24-105mm f4 IS USM time for a refresh?
« on: August 21, 2014, 02:40:16 PM »
And I'm okay with Canon if they don't refresh it -- just keep selling it. They have bigger things to work on, like that 14-24 or 12-24L I'll be buying :)

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