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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 26, 2014, 02:09:40 PM »
As long as it is recognized that there is a huge difference between Canon can't build and Canon choosing not to build. I have not read anything that would indicate that Canon can't build a quality mirrorless system.

For completeness, also add may not ... for perhaps Canon doesn't own or have a license for a crucial patent.

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Photography Technique / Re: Would electrical tape damage the red ring?
« on: November 26, 2014, 12:25:05 PM »
One thing that also could help is being a part of a group - being alone is riskier.

And that folks, is safety tip numbers one to one-hundred.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 26, 2014, 06:32:30 AM »
Start always friendly: It is OPV v/s EVF. DSLR v/s ML. Both are super in their own ways, IMHO. End always friendly.

May I then add: Prime vs Zoom?

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Photography Technique / Re: Would electrical tape damage the red ring?
« on: November 26, 2014, 06:24:10 AM »
If you feel that you need to hide the brand and quality of your equipment, then you are either doing photography in the wrong places, under the wrong conditions or using the wrong equipment.

Remember that no matter how much you tape the camera and lens, you cannot tape away the size of it. People/thieves will notice you have a camera and act based on the perception created by the size of it.

Thieves/muggers are also for the most part cowards, so taping a bulky camera and lens signifies to them that you are insecure and therefore a prime target. On the flip side, exhibiting confidence within the environment will usually persuade any thief to look for easier pickings. But don't be arrogant and throw caution to the wind. Always be attentive, know how to identify a potential criminal and know the tactics employed by them.

And don't bulk yourself down with a huge camera bag, ever.

I have also found that being proficient in stick-fighting and then carrying a monopod is a boon.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Samsung NX-1 Review
« on: November 26, 2014, 05:47:49 AM »
10 FPS OVF cameras are vastly more complicated, difficult and expensive to produce than EVF mirror-less viewfinders. I'm not sure you appreciate the enormous technical challenge of building a 10FPS reflex system. These camera are engineering marvels and only a few companies in the world have the capability to build them.

The EOS-1v of ca.2000 vintage could do 10fps ... so this feat is just plain old hat today.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 26, 2014, 04:28:53 AM »
May the best technology win!

[friendly]I do not believe the objective is for any "technology" to actually win, as there really isn't the competition as some people perceive, e.g. FF vs crop and DSLR vs mirrorless. For me it is more there having been a fork in the road and each "technology" moving in different directions, each with its own goals, objectives and customer base. The big question for companies like Canon and Nikon are therefore more how they can keep dominating the market by offering a diverse range of products so to have the largest possible customer base. On the other hand, if they cannot spread their resources so wide, then the logical solution would be to rather concentrate on that which is sustainable in the long run and concede the (lower revenue) "niche" markets to smaller companies.[/friendly]

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is there any reason to shoot sRGB????
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:49:49 PM »
You're actually on a 30d as your only camera?! in that case, my "Mr. Budget" award passes from me to you.

Regrettably I must decline the award. My primary camera these past few months has been a FUJIFILM X-T1.

The 30D is the only Canon camera I have left, having sold all the others. Even though it still works 100%, I cannot sell it because it looks like its been dragged to hell and back behind a donkey over gravel (well, nearly). I now use it for copying books, slides and negatives - some of the ML stuff would really help there.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is there any reason to shoot sRGB????
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:42:53 PM »
I'm really not trying to offend you, and I'm sorry if some other thread mood spills over here.

No sweat.

What histogram are you using?

Never actually used it (on my sans-LiveView Canon cameras), because it's always after the fact. As in: shoot, chimp, reshoot, chimp, resho... blast, gone is the light.

The live histogram in the viewfinder of my X-T1 does get some serious use for difficult contrasts.

It's extremely useful for quick sorting and browsing as a lot of software browsers use it - rendering the raw data takes a lot of time.

I can see how that will be beneficial. My system works a bit differently: all images are renamed and stored in an "ORIGINAL" folder, then processed and stored in a different folder, plus a small thumbnail (800x600) generated, all using the same filename. So, browsing through the thumbnails, I can know from its filename that of the original file, plus those of the various different processed files of the same image.

If you don't invest in a cheap monitor calibration tool, that's your bad, I waited too long until I finally discovered how essential this is.

It's on the list for when I eventually replace this ancient laptop which is my primary.

Obviously they display the photograph as srgb'sih if you set stock srgb in your browser and os color management. Are you sure you know how color management works :-o ?

My point was that not everyone colour manages, especially those family members who want pictures of other family members, and no matter how well one's own system is, out there in the wild it's ... well, wild.

Ugh, time to move :-p ... where I live (Germany) most internet printing sites are wider gammut than srgb and also a lot of local print shops.

Or buy my own printer.

When you edit a shot and then print it, this includes two devices - your monitor (use a color calibration tool) and a printer (use a color calibration tool or the print shop's cms profile). Doesn't sound like rocket science, esp. with soft proofing in software like Lightroom.

As I said, if you control all the devices in the chain, then color management works perfectly. However, when one cog is beyond your control, all bets are off.

If I walk into the local printers and ask for their "cms profile", the cute gal at reception will probably just giggle. Probably easier to ask what machine they use and then download it from the manufacturers website, hoping the local techie wasn't of the opinion that BruceRGB is superior. (They get like that, our techies: all opinion and no brains.)

Under closer scrutiny, srgb is rather different between devices that claim to be srgb. Probably better than displaying adobergb or photopro, but still calibration and color management is essential unless you don't care about the accuracy.

I attempted consistent colour management between my laptop and my HP Colour Laser. Now I just switch all colour management off and everything is close enough. So, yes, sRGB isn't always sRGB ... especially when dealing with Adobe PDF's.  ;)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is there any reason to shoot sRGB????
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:08:43 PM »
... for the real deal use Magic Lantern and the full raw histogram.

Gee, that's neat. Too bad the ML chaps stopped developing for the 30D.  :(

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:05:23 PM »
I have to say the current state of the thread goes even beyond the expected. Probably time to call it a day - surely there are lots of upcoming opportunities to call each other names.

Only if I can be the chap with the glasses and the rod!

(Good advice. Taken and thanks.)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is there any reason to shoot sRGB????
« on: November 25, 2014, 04:59:06 PM »
Even so, I don't see why a properly set up color management (in your browser and/or os) wouldn't work - that's the very thing it's designed for. Sticking to srgb w/o color management might sound simple, but it isn't unless you're very careful to pick a monitor that happens to be 99,9% srgb.

In my experience colour management only works when you can control all the devices in the chain. As soon as you start handing images over to others, your carefully calibrated colour management flies out the window ... for various reasons, e.g. they use a different colour space in their workflow or just plain none. In these case sRGB is the common language.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is there any reason to shoot sRGB????
« on: November 25, 2014, 04:52:52 PM »
Sorry, I feel  >:(

1. the histogram is based on this setting, with adobe rgb you get a better representation

What histogram? Oh, you mean the one that the camera shows you AFTER you've taken the picture.

2. in every cr2 there's a full jpeg thumbnail with the color space selected.

Of which the purpose is, beside for generating the utterly useless histogram?

And in any case you should calibrate the monitor and use color management even with an srgb model.

So when will you pop over to calibrate my screen, before or after you calibrate every other computer and iPad screen on earth?

A lot of browsers have built-in color management nowadays: IE, Firefox, Safari.

So what do these browsers do with an AdobeRGB photograph that is to be displayed on grandma's uncalibrated sRGB'ish monitor?

Many better photo labs have printers that go beyond srgb

We don't have any of those around here ... just those KODAK self-service kiosks.

Ugh? How so?

Obviously, because the gamuts aren't the same.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 25, 2014, 04:33:32 PM »
I agree, I was looking out for the people who might be impressionable enough to buy into your snake oil garbage and I assumed you knew better, sorry if I overestimated you.

Like I said, it kind of sounds logical, but is completely erroneous and you are doing those that don't know better a huge disservice by repeating such utter garbage.

Honestly, I am totally gobsmacked by the abusive resistance from the CR "regulars" to the suggestion that Canon should drop the "crop-frame" system.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is there any reason to shoot sRGB????
« on: November 25, 2014, 04:24:48 PM »
Also if you use the Adobe setting, you lose the first letter of your filename. It's replaced by "_" (underscore). This may or may not matter to you.

I bought my first DSLR secondhand and just couldn't figure out why the stupid thing kept using an underscore for the first character.  ;D

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 25, 2014, 04:15:51 PM »
That is the kind of nonsensical, but logical sounding, bullshit people say who don't understand how a system resolution figure is achieved.

"Never look down on anybody, unless you are helping them up."

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