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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 11:50:00 AM »

 As for the latter (the 7dII), it is a weather-sealed camera, but has no decent weather-sealed companion lens!?

I wish someone had told me this before I spent 4 hours on a hike in the rain with a 7D2 and the 100L lens attached...I just assumed that it was weather sealed.... the rubber ring on the lens mount tricked me! (SARCASM TAG) yet somehow it survived......

(Ignoring the sarcasm tag for a bit ...) The 100L is a "full-frame" lens, whereas the 7DII is a "crop-frame" camera. Yes, it works ... but so would a 1DX have worked. My point is that it is silly to buy a "crop-frame" camera and then use brilliant "full-frame" lenses on it ... 'cause you're wasting that part of the lens you paid through the nose for: the edges. Bad economy, but the shareholders love it!

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 07:47:22 AM »
Face it, Canon, the "Rebel" line is dead, so bury it ... along with the 70D and the (still-born) 7DII. As for the latter (the 7dII), it is a weather-sealed camera, but has no decent weather-sealed companion lens!?

Odd my 70D is working out just fine and when I wear that out I'll probably go for a 7DII - which seems to be getting a great reception . . . I think it might be you that isn't listening to what Canon's customers are actually saying.

Technology has moved quite a distance since the previous decade and production cost have equally dropped. The question which answers my statement above, is why does Canon persist with a "crop-frame" line-up, especially since all their good lenses are "full-frame" stuff? They should just drop it and concentrate on "full-frame" exclusively: the 6D is a "Rebel", the 5D is the 70D, and the 1D is the equivalent of the new 7D. Only difference is in the size of the sensor and the price that is asked by Canon.

Also, anyone who today (or tomorrow) considers buying a "crop-frame" camera will also look seriously at the mirrorless offerings from other companies. Only in the "full-frame" segment is Canon still tops. So unless you have an investment in "full-frame" Canon lenses, which would make "upgrading" to a "full-frame" camera a financial no-brainer, Canon's "crop-frame" line-up offers very little to the enthusiast ... because if the enthusiast with a Canon "crop-frame" camera wants a decent lens, then a "full-frame" lens must be bought. This is very wasteful for the enthusiast - although great for the shareholders!

(Just to clarify, I am not saying that "crop-frame" is dead, just that Canon's versions thereof are well past their sell-by date.)

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 07:21:50 AM »
On the mirrorless option am I the only person who doesn't like smaller cameras in general?

Now we're three.

Personally I think the mirrorless manufacturers made a mistake by equating the system with small size (in their marketing). However, for comparison, the FUJIFILM X-T1 is about the same size as the Asahi PENTAX S1a (of 1960's vintage) ... thus just perfect!

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Lenses / Re: EF 35mm f/1.4L II to Finally Come as Well? [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 07:13:41 AM »
This lens is over-kill for me. I'd have preferred it being f/3.5, weather-sealed and possibly with IS ... unless the latter significantly increases the size. It being an L-grade lens goes without saying, but just for clarification: L, of course. Such a lens, with great optics, would be the ideal travel lens with a "full-frame" camera.

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Lenses / Re: Help me decide: should I buy an EF 135L
« on: November 24, 2014, 07:07:52 AM »
Traditionally the 135mm focal length (on 35mm frame) is a portrait lens. I suspect that this lens was thus designed just for that, so it will probably have characteristic which are desirable in a portrait lens but not when used as a sports or nature lens.

In the same vein, your 85mm is also primarily a portrait lens - although for a different type of portrait.

It all depends on what type of photography you do. If it was me and I was offered this deal and had the spare cash, I'd have grabbed it. Remember you don't have to carry all your lenses with you all the time and the 135mm might be a good substitute for the 70-200mm when space is at a premium.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Switching to Full Frame
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:14:53 AM »
Quick Answer:  Canon's Lens Lineup is 2nd to NONE.

Depends. Canon has an excellent line-up of "full-frame" zoom lenses. The "full-frame" primes are for the most part overkill and for the balance rather mediocre, e.g. the 50mm f/1.2 lens is both. The "EF-S" line-up, well, plainly sucks. And the "EF-M" range is stalled at, what, three lenses?

Ok, so I've been shooting a 7D since May of 2012, and it's come to the point where I'm ready to upgrade my camera. I've been shooting semi professionally and am looking to shoot full time by next summer.

I currently have a 7D, 10-22, 28 f/1.8, 85 f/1.8, and 24-70 f/2.8 L mk. 1.

I do not like the 24-70.

With a Full Frame jump I will also be getting rid of the 10-22.

So this leaves me with about 700 bucks worth of canon glass.

I'm looking to upgrade the 7d ...

Why should I stay with Canon / not switch to Nikon?

Also look at FUJIFILM, Panasonic and Olympus. "Full-frame" isn't the everything of photography anymore ...

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:04:20 AM »
I am of the opinion that the following post sums up the situation:

[..] my main concern is that the market for people who are not photographers (normal camera consumers) was very large.  These are the people who generally bought P&S and rebels.  Many are moving to Smart phones others are moving to mirror-less.  If Canon losses completely to others in the mirror-less market or becomes a joke in the eyes of consumers.  We all lose.

[..]

But in the lower end enthusiast cameras everyone is out innovating Canon/Nikon.   

Canon is the top-dog in the "professional-class" arena - in terms of cameras, lenses and service. However, for us folks who are either mere enthusiasts or non-professional photographers (meaning photography forms part of our job, but is not primary) the current offerings from Canon are pretty poor when compared to FUJIFILM, Sony, Panasonic and Olympus (also possibly Pentax, maybe). For example, Canon doesn't support the EF-S system with real decent lenses; same reason why the EOS-M failed and will continue to fail. Canon's whole philosophy is based around their "professional" system, with everything else being incidental. This may have been a sound business approach in ca.2007, but not today.

Face it, Canon, the "Rebel" line is dead, so bury it ... along with the 70D and the (still-born) 7DII. As for the latter (the 7dII), it is a weather-sealed camera, but has no decent weather-sealed companion lens!? And why bring out the EF-S 24mm more than a year after the 100D, when it should have been an optional kit lens right from the start!?

We complain, we shout, we troll - but does Canon listen? Nope.

But as quoted above, without us average lot (and the soccer-moms) buying low- and mid-end Canon gear, who's gonna finance the top-end "pro" gear? (Question: how's the support from the video crowd for DSLR's these days? Was it really such a viable decision on the part of Canon to concentrate on them, instead of stills-only photographers?)

Any company who puts the shareholders above their consumers are ...  :-X

As to the DR thing: I've always wondered whether people are factoring in the various "cooking" algorithms when making their determination.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Next Rebel Going EVF? [CR1]
« on: October 05, 2014, 02:54:19 AM »
... my day job is color grading. ... My other job is in camera department ...

In this case, notwithstanding the fact that you don't like EVF's, stop putting down actual photographers who do prefer an EVF in their cameras.

I get it. Sorry. I'll stop insulting actual bad photographers. :)

It is now the time to put your knowledge where your mouth is ... by telling me (and other photographers) why preferring an EVF equates to bad photography. Go ahead, let 'er rip with a comprehensive and numbered list!

P.S. An excuse why you won't will mean you can't, because it does.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Next Rebel Going EVF? [CR1]
« on: October 03, 2014, 08:40:29 AM »
... my day job is color grading. ... My other job is in camera department ...

In this case, notwithstanding the fact that you don't like EVF's, stop putting down actual photographers who do prefer an EVF in their cameras.

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Canon General / Re: Financial Times - "Digital cameras: out of focus"
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:23:13 AM »
Kirk Tuck:

"But what we're seeing in photography right now is not really the adoption of a new standard or product. People are not just moving from one type of camera to another they are moving to a new mental space about personal imaging and they have just done it en masse."

And does Canon's line-up of DSLR cameras cater for this move to a new mental space? No.

And does Olympus's/FUJIFILM's/Samsung's line-up of mirrorless cameras cater for this move to a new mental space? Yes.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Next Rebel Going EVF? [CR1]
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:19:23 AM »
Rebels always had bad viewfinders. Entry-level shooters prefer WISYWIG though god knows anyone who has a clue what they're doing prefers optical finders.

Always glad to see insulting, ignorant comments on the web!


Good for you, I can tell. Continue posting them!

Those of us who know what we're doing will get back to shooting with optical finders and knowing how to meter properly in the first place. :)

As for my apology, you've earned it. I'm sorry you've been shooting that long and still don't have a clue how to meter!

Wow, talk about denial. Sheesh-kebabs!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Next Rebel Going EVF? [CR1]
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:14:52 AM »
That's silly.  Pros don't give a flying you-know-what about whether they're in the under-$1000 pocket.  They care about things like low latency, maintaining dark adaptation of their eyes at night, fast focusing speed, and ability to see critical focus with the naked eye (at normal f-stops, anyway).  EVFs can't deliver that combination, nor are they likely to be able to deliver it within the next ten years.

Depends on your definition of what a "pro" photographer does for a living. Good professional photographers are primarily interested in creating the picture. Good professional photographers then use the gear best suited to producing said required/desired picture. Good professional photographers actually don't give a hoot about those things you've mentioned ... if you can't take a good picture with your FUJIFILM Instax or Apple iPhone, then you ain't a good professional photographer. I have seen too many "professional" photographers totally depending on the abilities of their "pro" cameras and "post" to actually take a mediocre picture. (Just for fun, go watch those DigitalRev episodes on YouTube where they challenge a professional photographer with a crappola camera ... and see who makes it and who don't, as it is very informative ... especially when you look at the "preferred gear" of those who do poorly on the test.)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Next Rebel Going EVF? [CR1]
« on: October 03, 2014, 02:57:18 AM »
That said, I've never owned an EVF camera (unless cell phones count :P). I have tinkered with EVFs in hands-on moments in stores -- particularly Sony mirrorless models as I have a Sony store near me.  I have found the EVFs to be bright and loaded full of information, but a shade laggy compared to what I am used to.

It depends on the available light: I have found that in certain light conditions, especially indoors with fluorescent light (which flickers at 50/60Hz) the EVF of my X-T1 does struggle a bit. But outside in the sun or indoors with incandescent light it is really fast enough.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Next Rebel Going EVF? [CR1]
« on: October 02, 2014, 03:06:33 PM »
So I just don't see the 7D2 as something you buy for standard FL use.  It's the reach camera.  No need for standard FLs on it.

You're probably absolutely right. I wonder what the kit lens will be ... an EF 400mm f/4 DO IS II USM lens?  ;)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: October 02, 2014, 02:17:08 PM »
FUJIFILM doesn't make a 1:1 macro ... Besides, the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 USM is dirt cheap, razor sharp and my 30D has all the pixels a need for copying documents, slides, negatives and fingers.

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