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12 There are almost no zooms that can resolve the 24.3 mp FX sensor well in current Nikon zoom line (maybe the 70-200VR2 and  200-400f4VR2 are fine), so if you are zoom shooter , you are wasting much potential resolving power of the high resolution sensor of the Nikon. I , in fact , recommend Zeiss  primes and 70-200mmf2.8VR2 for the Nikon , nothing less than that is really good enough for that sensor. the Nikon 24-70mmf2.8G ED , 16-35mmf4VR , 24-120mmf4VR, the 70-200f4GEDVR are all useless , they were great on 12mp generation bodies but not on the D800E or D600.

I can pretty much agree with your whole post but have to say the Nikon 70-200/4 VR that I have on my 800e delivers excellent sharpness in a much smaller lighter package than the new 2.8 and will much less focus breathing as well.
OTOH, the Nikon rep did have to remind me that, "it's a consumer-grade lens, not a pro lens," so basically stop complaining that VR doesn't work for long at -20C.   :-X
I still have a quibble with it on image quality but knarly bokeh in transition zones is not uncommon on some lenses in this range.

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HDR - High Dynamic Range / Re: Post your HDR images:
« on: August 22, 2013, 01:26:33 AM »


I DO like this one, very good.  Sets the imagination stirring.

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PowerShot / Re: Canon PowerShot G16 Announced
« on: August 22, 2013, 01:24:22 AM »
no GPS? seriously!  ???

Zactly what I was just wondering... 
Don't want to carry another device to geotag after a WiFi xfer, may as well just shoot the geotagged shot w the tablet.

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Landscape / Re: Beautiful sunsets
« on: August 20, 2013, 03:11:54 PM »
Believe it or not, neither one modified in post AT ALL

I B'lieve! :)
I love good sky and, when the atmosphere's just right, even OOC jpgs look great.  Here's a partial sample from a series I took a couple weeks ago.  Incredible colors, for a while it was like a caramel candy fantasy.
I skipped some socializing to capture these.  Fortunately my friends understand and even saved me some supper. :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D Under-Exposing?
« on: August 15, 2013, 06:37:22 PM »
I have not had issues between metering modes and within a same scene.  It's just dark, and if indoors, off color.

I haven't played much with a 6D but still find that is unexpected behavior.
Everything that I've used with that 63 zone metering sensor has provided excellent metering and AWB.

Can you compare your 6D with another, side-by-side, same lens?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D Under-Exposing?
« on: August 15, 2013, 06:30:42 PM »
Good to hear the 7D2 is reliable and accurate. That's going to keep a lot of people happy in the future  ;)

HAHA!  Good of you to jump on that typo (fixed).
so many multigenerational devices...
Still hoping a 7d2 is going to be impressive for more than its forebear's metering.

Meanwhile, back to metering SNAFUs...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D Under-Exposing?
« on: August 15, 2013, 04:19:57 PM »
I've found various bodies to expose with various levels of error, no real surprise.

What I find more annoying tho, is an inconsistent error on any given body.

E.G.
new Pentax K52s with fast zoom and sunlight.
- matrix metering is within 1/3 of Sekonic
- CWA and Spot on the same uniform surface are -1EV from matrix

I thot this may be due to the effect of lens corner shading in matrix EXCEPT that if I move to an indoor location, again on a smooth surface evenly lit by natural outside light thru windows, all metering modes are now the same result!

FWIW, my K52s underexposes considerably and inconsistently when outdoors in sunlight, no matter what metering mode I use and even sunny-16 numbers do not provide proper results but are often nearly 2 stops under...  I need to get that thing checked out...  I can usually rely on full manual giving consistent results but I have to go by the histogram as the metering's too wonky.  Same behavior with various lenses so not sure what its problem is yet, aperture control lever calibration?..  Have to find some time for detailed testing.

Meanwhile..

My D800 does the same -1EV shift in sunlight when changing between metering modes as the K52s but its matrix mode does a very good job for all my shots and rarely under or over exposes by much in complex scenes and is predictable in low dynamic range shots.

My old Canon 5d2 often underexposed a great deal and again, inconsistently.  It occasionally over exposed a scene grossly too, even with no change of scene and from shot to shot.  Manual was the only way to get consistent shot-to-shot results.

my 60D and 7d gave remarkably accurate and consistently good metering (&WB) and also agreed very well with my Sekonics or sunny-16 when in manual. 40d gives consistent and predictable metering, even if not accurate.

All my consumer grade bodies, Canon and Nikon, actually seem to meter quite predictably and consistently, if a little conservative at times so they rarely clip highlites or underexpose by much.

So...  not surprised to hear that a 6D underexposes a bit.
But how consistent is it between metering modes and various light levels?
and shot-to-shot on the same scene?

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Third Party Manufacturers / TAMRON AIMING FOR 3 DAY SERVICE TURN-AROUND
« on: August 15, 2013, 02:34:20 AM »
Their latest lenses are IQ competitive with the best OEM and the performance/cost ratio is very good too.

I've never experienced tardy service from Canon Canada but if Tamron's trying to make 3 day turn-around service on their lenses that's gonna be a bit irksome to the likes of Canon and Nikon who will only expedite service for their paid-up pro members.

story found on I-R

www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/08/14/tamron-puts-an-end-to-the-warranty-repair-blues-with-speedy-turnaround-pled

Has anyone else seen this announced anywhere?

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Pentax K-01 or any of the recent Fuji X series will kick butt for low ISO DR.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 70D what do you think?
« on: August 09, 2013, 01:19:31 PM »
The noise has never bothered me in these things it has always been the banding.

EXACTLY
I'd have kept my 5d2 and 7d if it were not for the plaid/stripes.
FWIW, the 5d2 felt pretty crude in some ways anyway so I certainly don't miss it as much as the 7d.

I'm also interested in seeing whether the outer area of the 70d sensor that is NOT dual-sensel equipped will provide a slightly different noise pattern than the main area.
I can sometimes make out the crop area of my d800's sensor IF I do things just right and push it really hard from a dark frame shot; and that's not as much of a structural difference as dual vs single sensels.

I'll do a lens cap shot as soon as I can get my hands on a 70d.  I'd like to see how much better it may be than my 60d in terms of FPN.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: More body upgrade from 40d questions???
« on: August 08, 2013, 06:11:55 PM »
100-400 is a decent lens, certainly worked well on a 7D but a little less effective on my 40D.
60D works OK with it but falls between 40 and 7 in performance and accuracy from my experience with those combos.
I'd certainly consider the new 70-300L tho, it just wasn't around when i bought the 100-400mm.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6d focusing screen comparison please
« on: August 08, 2013, 06:08:33 PM »
I used the Eg-D in my 5d2.
I preferred having the lines in the viewfinder as a composition aid, they helped me get my horizons closer to horizontal or to better balance wide angle shots where vertical lines were tilting inwards and looked better if balanced. :)
I'd recommend it.
I pulled it out before I sold my 5d2 so I could use it in a 6D if I bought one.

i merely used live view instead of the Eg-S to really see what I was getting.  Tho that sometimes had me with a big black blanket to block out bright ambient light so I could better see the display.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: More body upgrade from 40d questions???
« on: August 07, 2013, 02:28:22 AM »
40d is a great older camera, I still use mine for various types of shooting.
60d is a wee bit better in that the extra resolution can come in handy for landscapes and I like the flip screen for close-up work sometimes.  It's also got better hi ISO performance than the 40d; you could use 3200 if you needed to.
7d gets you an improved AF system and faster frame rate but can have limitations in image quality compared to the previous two for landscape shots. (many 7d's have rather noisy shadow areas if you do any significant shadow push in post)

You've got some good glass already, and I agree with pj1974's lens recommendations and advice.

Canon's 10-22 is a good UWA crop zoom lens (I had one, liked it) and so is Sigma's 10-20mm variable aperture one (I have it and like it too) for less money.

I'd keep using your 40d and develop your skills while waiting to see how the new 70d performs and maybe even wait until next year to see how the 7d2 will perform.

So, this is essentially what I'm doing too; I sold my 7d and my 5d2 while they had good resale value and and kept my 40d and a 60d while I wait to see if the newest bodies will actually be significant and worthwhile upgrades.
I'd really like an improved version of the 7d with better image quality, reduced raw file noise and maybe even an AF system with more AF points like the 5d3.
The 6D with 24-105mm kit is tempting, and quite good, but I've moved to the competition to better meet my full frame requirements.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Camera Sales Down in Q2, Imaging Revenue Up
« on: August 04, 2013, 01:32:40 PM »
What happens when your camera DOES stop functioning, and results are impossible?

backup bodies cover that

I wouldn't haul a D800 out for anything action related.

yes, it's a little slow on fps but so's a 5d2.  most of my subject matter only moves when the wind blows. :)
I kept a 7d for speed until I dumped it last year. Waiting to see what a 7d2 will be like, or even the 70d. 40d, 60d, and some old rebels still back some Canon glass for now but rarely get used.
For everything else, d800/5100 and k52s work just fine and I no longer have to deal with dreaded pattern noise.

I DO miss the 7d when trying for BIF shots, especially in low light.

But that's the thing, I select my gear for specific kinds of shooting.
If I wanted an all-round, general-purpose body I'd have to make compromises...
I don't like compromises.

File sizes are not an issue either. I capture a small jpg with each raw, use those for a quick catalog to review shots to select for post.
Most post software will also allow you to batch-process so if you have at least a reasonably capable computer, you can continue to edit while running a batch.

So, other than limited fps, but not significantly different from previous canon FF, I've not heard of any significant impediments to using a d800 in the real world.

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Canon General / Re: Canon Camera Sales Down in Q2, Imaging Revenue Up
« on: August 03, 2013, 01:57:28 PM »
..Making a brand choice comes down to more than hardware offerings, hardware quality, etc.

While that's true I don't make a purchasing choice based primarily on how something is likely to fail and be repaired.
I need results more than some sense of long term security so I can afford to choose accordingly.

I've also had good experiences with Canon when it comes to service and support. (Tho they asked me to keep quiet when I found a significant bug in their DPP software)

I've also had good experience with Nikon service and support, altho they had to finally acknowledge that they could not fix the d5100's tilt issue. (module replacement only, no fine adjustment possible)

I'm still interested in what sort of real-world limitations the D800 may have that some people have hinted at but not substantiated. I haven't found any in my use of them.  There was only a learning curve of getting used to how they do some things differently.

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