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Whoa! That's a fabulous price for the 7D.

I've been debating the T3i (waiting on the T4i) and the 60D but put the 7D out of contention because of the cost. Is this a too good to pass up discount?

I decided it was far too good to pass up -- outstanding value.

Since the price is SO low I also called to verify that it is a NEW unit -- not refurb or return or open box or any of that stuff. They say it's new product.

So, I have one on the way.

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Lenses / Re: best lenses for 7d
« on: April 30, 2012, 10:51:00 AM »

You can get a new one at Adorama now for $1199 -- less than refurb. I just ordered one.

Don't skimp on lenses. Here's something from the DPReview conclusion on the 7D:

"The EOS 7D delivers impressive image quality across the sensitivity range. At base ISO its output comes with excellent per-pixel sharpness which, in combination with the 18 MP nominal resolution, results in exceptional image detail in this class of camera. In most situations the lens, rather than the camera, is likely to be the limiting factor."

The past couple of years I've used a T2i with essentially the same sensor as the D7. I've used both the EF-S 17-55mm and EF-S 15-85mm for general purpose. They do a fine job. Personally, I prefer the 17-55. I use a EF 70-200mm f/4.0L and it's outstanding. I plan a move up to the IS version soon.

Get the best possible price on the body, then use the best lens you can afford. No surprise there!

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B&H won't match the price -- so Adorama gets the business.

Thanks, CR!!

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Wonder if B&H will match!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??
« on: April 28, 2012, 07:39:01 PM »

If you think a L lens is $2000 then you are looking in the wrong place.

Used 17-40 are $5-600
Used 24-105 are $about 1000

Not that different from APS-C, which are budget lens - not designed for the top of the range 7D and up cameras

Uh oh. Wrong thing to say, Brian!

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Its threads like these that weed out the true photographers from the Measurebators.


That's funny!!

Thanks.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Last Generation of the Crop Sensor Cameras
« on: April 26, 2012, 01:45:39 PM »
Here we go again.

Eventually all DSLRs will be obsolete. And, eventually, we will all be dead.

In the meantime, these proclamations about the "death" of one particular format are beyond silly.

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Yep. Mr. Smirky throws out a piece of red meat then smirks at the ensuing "controversy."

As unfocused suggests everything is eventually "...made irrelevant by the advancement of technology," as Mr. Smirky said.

A couple of thoughts come to mind.

First, for 90% of people now actively on this forum, by the time crop sensors are done, we will have moved on to wholly different interests -- creating communicator "apps," collecting antique birdbaths, maybe looking up trying to see what it says on that tombstone they put over our heads. Better, as my friends in the 12-step programs always say to take it "one day at a time."

Second, I will agree that Canon isn't putting much into the crop frame products line. I see their real energy and resources going into video. That, along with the move of prominent photojournalists to video, supports my belief that the heyday of still photography is ending. I really believe that 50 years from now, given the world survives intact, almost everything we now see as still photography will be video. A still picture will not hang on the wall in your house -- it will be a compelling video that looks real enough to walk into. Same with little photo frames on your desk or atop the bookcase. Perhaps even the venerable printed book will be gone.

As it says in Ecclisiastes, "To everything there is a season." All of us, including Mr. Smirky, will one day be made irrelevant by the advancement of technology.

Thanks, unfocused.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:13:18 PM »
While I've listed my reasons why the 5D3 isn't for me, if I were your age and looking to get into the wedding biz -- I'd be out the door in five minutes looking to get a 5D3. From all I've seen so far, it's an extraordinary tool for the wedding photographer. Many years ago I did weddings professionally, and I know what's needed.

Not to knock the Nikon product, but any good wedding photographer with a 5D3 will shoot rings around anything else I can think of, including medium format.

Get the 5D3 and a lens to cover the wide stuff. Then get hooked up with a good wedding photographer with a thriving business and learn all you can.

Good luck -- and I sure envy you the tools I didn't have so many years ago!! You're VERY lucky.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon, STOP shipping defective products!!!
« on: April 25, 2012, 11:17:00 AM »

Seriously, what has this light leak thingie ever actually done to any one?

This light has apparently leaked into many bedrooms and stolen many hours of sleep.

This lack of normal rest has caused reduced productivity in many workplaces. This has caused stock markets to tumble across nations. Friends in high places have told me NASA is working on a scheme to reduce the output of the sun to accommodate this travesty Canon has unleashed upon the earth.

Anyone want to buy a good hand-held light meter?

Apologies to the creators of "Hair" and the 5th Dimension:

Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation
And the mind's true liberation
Aquarius! Aquarius!

Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine in
The sun shine in





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All I see there is a nice sweater!

Seriously, nice picture.



A picture from yesterday with the 7D + 24-105. This is an old but much loved, angora goat. The brief was, as is mostly, to capture the character of the animal rather than all washed and brushed which it never was. Most of the owners want images that reflect the animal as they saw it day to day - hence it is covered in hay ...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Sorry 5D3, Insufficient Value
« on: April 22, 2012, 02:03:19 PM »

VERY nicely said.

This is the product from the tools.

As sung by Barbra Streisand, "The Way We Were"


Memories, like the corners of my mind
Misty, water-colored memories of the way we were
Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were


Thanks much, Viggo.



I find it impossible to loose as I invest in memories...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 and Canon's Comeuppance
« on: April 21, 2012, 11:37:48 PM »

Wow! Very well said!

Thanks.



You know, back in the film days, the camera contributed virtually nothing directly to image quality. If you wanted different dynamic range or color rendition or whatever, you didn't blame the camera; you popped in a different type of film.

What differentiated cameras then is exactly what differentiates the 5DIII from the 5DII -- and, not coincidentally, what makes the 5DIII a significantly better camera than the D800 as well.

Specifically, it's all those non-sensor things, like autofocus performance and frames per second and metering and ergonomics and the rest. Even more importantly is the whole system -- the lenses you can mount on the camera.

With the exception of the very last top-of-the-line pro body film camera Canon ever made, the EOS 1-V, the 5DIII blows away every single film camera Canon ever made on any spec you care to mention -- and the only spec that the 1-V bests the 5DIII on is framerate (10 FPS v 6 FPS). Not only that, the 5DIII handily bests all other pro digital bodies Canon has ever made in pretty much every spec, except for the framerate of the crop sensor models.

And, oh-by-the-way, it's got image quality that simply doesn't exist in the film world (I dare you to make a 36" x 54" 135-format film print that comes anywhere close to what the 5DIII can do), image quality that's on a par with or superior to every other camera in its format on the market save for one single model from the competitors.

And, also-oh-by-the-way, it's a high-definition large format high-speed motion picture camera.

And, did-I-mention, Canon glass stomps all over the competition, what with the TS-Es and the supertelephotos and the MP-E and on and on and on.

And yet that's somehow still not enough? Canon is holding back?

Whatever.

Say, any of all y'all complainers get your invisible pink flying unicorn ponies from B&H? I hear they were supposed to start shipping after Pesach....

Cheers,

b&

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Sorry 5D3, Insufficient Value
« on: April 20, 2012, 04:37:22 PM »

Maybe I'm just a cheapskate; if so, so be it. Maybe I value my dollars differently than others. Anyway, I've decided I can't justify 3500 Tracy dollars for the 5D3.

As I said here several times before the 5D2 successor showed up, rather than speculating/hoping/fantasizing, I would wait to see what Canon offered, then make a decision about what to do. After limping along for two years with T2i limitations, I knew I wanted an affordable tool that would provide 5D2 image quality and low-light capabilities with 7D or better autofocus speed and versatility.

The new 5D3 has delivered exactly what I want. Low-light capability seems at least marginally improved and the AF is all I would ever need. Despite hearing some whining about sensor capabilities, dynamic range, etc., I suspect Canon realizes this sensor produces image quality better than what a large percentage of users actually need or can use. It surely produces images that satisfy me. So, from a practical standpoint, the 5D3 is my ideal camera.

Only Canon knows why they've priced the 5D3 as they have. I can speculate along with everyone else, but the improvements over the 5D2 don't warrant the additional cost for me. I can see a wedding photographer biting his lip and paying the extra money because the critical improvements give him reasonable value. There may be some other businesses that see it as a reasonable (affordable -- and also available) alternative to the new 1Dx. So, for me, I've decided on my own current solution. It's the 7D with some lens upgrades.

The plan that's evolved as a cheaper 5D3 solution for me is this:

1. Replace the T2i with a new 7D.

2. Upgrade (my interpretation) my walkaround lens from the 15-85mm to a 17-55mm.

3. Upgrade my 70-200 f/4.0L to a 70-200 f/4.0L IS.

4. Get a 10-22mm for the wide side.

I've got an ef-s 60mm that's adequate for macro, but I'll keep it mostly for the non-macro look it provides. I don't know what it is, but that has become a favorite lens for landscape type shots. I'll keep my 135mm f/2.0L for serious headhunting, and I'll keep the 100-400L for the great reach.

This also allows me to sell the EOS-1V as I won't need it for the great AF. Yesterday I was shooting around town with the T2i in one hand and the 1V in the other (with the 70-200) and it's speed is nothing short of joy. The contrast between the two helped make this decision.

One reason I got the T2i initially was that it was the cheapest entry to a decent digital camera. It has virtually the same sensor as the 7D, so if you can sacrifice the upscale capabilities of the 7D you can work with a T2i and good lenses. Here's an image that makes that case for me:





That was taken yesterday with the T2i and has all the IQ I'd ever realistically need. However that is one of perhaps 50 I took of gulls flying around me. The AF simply can't do the job; this shot just got lucky. With a 7D, this shot won't require luck -- or a one out of fifty keeper ratio. And as I've often said, for street photography, by the time the T2i gets it together, the shot is gone. I saw that again yesterday with the lightning speed of the 1V. Even using film, as soon as the shutter button is actuated, the shot is made.

Anyway, perhaps this will help others wrestling with the 5D3 pricing. If you're thinking about Nikon, well that's a different issue!




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Lenses / Re: shooting into the sun...
« on: April 17, 2012, 12:16:18 PM »

A tip from the cheapskate dept.

If you're shooting the sun itself, eclipse for instance, you can use inexpensive welding glass over the lens instead of high-priced filters.

For $5 I got a 4.5 by 5.25 inch piece of #14 welder's glass from a welding safety supply outfit. With the naked eye, you can hold it up to the sun and look directly at it as long as you like. It's big enough to cover the end of any lens I have, and it will take whatever length exposure I want. You just have to be careful to hold it still.

Also, I've used it to take pictures directly into powerful flashlights -- just for fun. Who knows what other kinds of fun you might have!

As for a disclaimer, this is my experience with #14 glass. It also comes in lighter versions, and I have no idea what kind of protection they would offer. The optics expert here is probably a good source on that if you have questions.

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Mr. Palmer:

I'll quote young Nick from the 1965 movie, "A Thousand Clowns," in response to Chuckles the Clown:

"My simple child reaction of what you did is that you are not funny. Funnier than you is even Stuart Schlossman, who is my friend, and is eleven, and puts walnuts in his mouth and makes noises. What is not funny is to call us names, and what is mostly not funny is how sad you are, and I'd feel sorry for you if it wasn't for how dull you are. And that's my opinion from the blue, blue sky."

And, as Joan Rivers frequently said: "Oh, grow up!"

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