« on: March 15, 2012, 06:56:12 PM »
hey the 40d is The classic out of the whole xxd series!
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Well class leading AF, 100% VF, accelerometers, higher sensitive sensors for ISO, digic 5+, 6FPS, in camera HDR, more robust body and weather sealing, faster response times, 2 cards, no sony to shovel extra money into R&D, this doesn't come for free... Let alone damage to facilities, possible insurance claims and or negative effects thereof... all that gets passed on to the consumer in some way shape or form... Sucks but the improvements puts this camera in a whole new class of camera compared to the 5d2.Your inability to see the discrepancy between price/product and 4yrs R&D/product just amazes me.
I hope there aren't that many people around who are bound to buy any body that Canon releases. The only way to make Canon think again about their strategy "double the price and see what happens" is if they cannot sell their full output of 5d3 at 3500 bucks.Who is getting tired of all BS of 5d3 vs d800? you not only buy a camera.. YOU BUY THE SYSTEM..
The whole D800 vs 5d3 issue wouldn't be that heated if the 5d3 would be a little cheaper than the D800 and people would think Canon is pricing their gear according to technical quality, not just market value generated by a demand of people who are unable to choose.
I'd think more about investing in Canon gear if I'd trust Canon's long term strategy more - but seeing the last lens releases for video or high end, and now the 5d3 update after 3,5 years of development, I'll keep my money for the time being.
Seriously mate, i've never, ever, ever had any client gripe about DR... That's a photographer's thing... But anyways it's not lacking, and ALL SAMPLES TO DATE HAVE BEEN PREPRODUCTION... wait a week or two... let the tests be done, then flame to your hearts desire... I dont care what you think or anyone else thinks about this and that... If the cameras IQ is as good as the 5d2 with AF better than a 1d4, the camera pays for itself right there
Your saying the AF is hacked up like it's a bad thing... Your getting the 7D meter, which reads the light from the AF spot(s) to feed to the AF and meter system, and the 1dx AF module? Ok... so this is the second best AF system has to offer currently... Yep.. bad thing... seriously? The 5d2 had the 5th best AF or maybe worse and the 5d3 is almost as good as the flagship... that's improvement any way you look at it...
I'm not settling for what Canon or any other company gives me, but unlike you, i dont gripe on forums about it... I call Canon, Email them, I get periodic surveys about their gear/customer service/etc... answer them... check your spam folders for them... Register with Canon, Join CPS, those methods, while they may seem pointless, has more chances of being seen by canon's marketing and research than Canon rumors postings...
If Canon pumped out the camera before nikon ever introduced a D800, no one would be griping about DR, no one would be griping about ISO, AF, etc... it would have been praised as the camera all others would be measured to because of lack of something to compare to..
Aside confronting it with the competition (and rightly so) many people do have expectations after a theoretical 4years of R&D; slapping a hacked up AF/meter from 2 other cams to replace a decade old one and a sensor that its novelty is more geared towards videographers is bound to leave many people unhappy.How is the 1dx AF system in the 5d3 hacked up? Seriously? It's the same damn system, just no IFCL meter, which is just for advanced tracking and metering... Even with that, it has the 7D meter... i haven't heard anyone on any blog ever complain about the 7D meter... It's not the newest or shinest, but it's a better combo than the 1d4... seriously, when they're tested i'm sure the 5d3 will stand up well against the D800's AF if not surpass it, much in the same way the 7D's AF rated higher than the D300's. the sensor size is a nice fit, a nice compromise, and when I was asked, and the general consensus of other pro photographers, very few were asking for more MP... I said, and many others on this forum, that our dream camera was the 5d2 sensor in a 7D body and AF... Canon delivered, and went way beyond...
So, you just quote me there and then you're going off talking about clients and business and how maybe a client will ask you a video... huh?And for me its this people and this fuzz that pushes companies into fixing things rather than people "up your level" who are happy with whatever Canon throws at them.
Get off your high horse... I'm more than happy to use/want/evolve my photography, my business, my career to meeting my clients needs as they change through the years... Any photographer who doesn't is being left behind... But in the end, I am grateful Canon did listen.. I'm grateful for no 30+ MP... I'm grateful for class leasing AF system, even when compared against nikons D700/D800... I'm grateful for video when my clients just so happen wants a short video for their website, the more they use me than look for someone else to do it, the longer I keep the client... I'm grateful for more usable ISO's for when the rare times I will need it. You're unhappy, i get it, but don't drag others down who are.
Dont let other people bring you down to their level. If you look at what most people wanted improved upon with the 5d3... AF, ISO, Handling, etc... Canon did just that, they listened to their consumer base, and they still get dragged in the mud... some people will never be happy. Enjoy your new camera an post pics when you can!
I was wondering if the mythical 3D high MP camera is suppose to sit in between the 5DMIII and the 1Dx won't the price also sit between them say "$4999", if that is the case will there be less complaining about the price of the 5DMIII?
D800 is going to be challenging to use hand held because there are increased shutter speed requirements due to the smaller pixels.
blablablabla, the only thing i know atm is that the XPro1 might produce images better than the 5DMarkus the 3rd.
even have a better focus( this kidding Canon whores), well D800 wasn't really what a wanted but hey i don't to pay the £2399 on a 24-70mm so i think ill pass this time for Canon, thanks for the 550d btw. PS: say f/8 bye bye.
I'm GLAD that Canon focused on ISO and camera features rather than just pumping out more megapixels...even though I had hoped for around 28mp rather than 22mp, I'm satisfied.
Can you say they focused on ISO and AF rather than more MP when the D800 has more DR and perhaps quite similar ISO and also advanced AF (although perhaps the 5D3/1DX AF will prove better than the D4/D800 AF???)?
Of course you can. What the Nikon ends up being better/worse at has no bearing on what Canon's focus was.
The Focus is better than the older models
What are you focused on in the large one you linked to (http://www.skyscraperlist.com/admindocs/243A9930.JPG)?