If Canon pumped out the camera before nikon ever introduced a D800, no one would be griping about DR, no one would be griping about ISO, AF, etc... it would have been praised as the camera all others would be measured to because of lack of something to compare to..
Quite an assumption, so you sincerely believe that if there wasn't a D800 people wouldn't complain about DR lagging behind a 1000$ camera? or about banding? Seriously?
D800 just adds salt to it cause of the -500$
it adds also abit more cause they used the full shutter /mirrorbox +Af/meter from their premium model at said price whereas Canon's cheapskates cutback there too, which leads me to :
Aside confronting it with the competition (and rightly so) many people do have expectations after a theoretical 4years of R&D; slapping a hacked up AF/meter from 2 other cams to replace a decade old one and a sensor that its novelty is more geared towards videographers is bound to leave many people unhappy.How is the 1dx AF system in the 5d3 hacked up? Seriously? It's the same damn system, just no IFCL meter, which is just for advanced tracking and metering... Even with that, it has the 7D meter... i haven't heard anyone on any blog ever complain about the 7D meter... It's not the newest or shinest, but it's a better combo than the 1d4... seriously, when they're tested i'm sure the 5d3 will stand up well against the D800's AF if not surpass it, much in the same way the 7D's AF rated higher than the D300's. the sensor size is a nice fit, a nice compromise, and when I was asked, and the general consensus of other pro photographers, very few were asking for more MP... I said, and many others on this forum, that our dream camera was the 5d2 sensor in a 7D body and AF... Canon delivered, and went way beyond...
Nice, so im saying that the AF/meter is a hacked up solution between 2 cams and then you proceed on actually saying that the AF/meter is a hacked up solution of 1dx+7d systems and then u ask me how do i dare to say its like this?
And for me its this people and this fuzz that pushes companies into fixing things rather than people "up your level" who are happy with whatever Canon throws at them.
Get off your high horse... I'm more than happy to use/want/evolve my photography, my business, my career to meeting my clients needs as they change through the years... Any photographer who doesn't is being left behind... But in the end, I am grateful Canon did listen.. I'm grateful for no 30+ MP... I'm grateful for class leasing AF system, even when compared against nikons D700/D800... I'm grateful for video when my clients just so happen wants a short video for their website, the more they use me than look for someone else to do it, the longer I keep the client... I'm grateful for more usable ISO's for when the rare times I will need it. You're unhappy, i get it, but don't drag others down who are.
So, you just quote me there and then you're going off talking about clients and business and how maybe a client will ask you a video... huh?
We don't care if you preordered the camera mate, our beef is with Canon. If you feel that these discussions are bringing you down maybe you should work on your selfesteem