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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: March 14, 2012, 01:14:15 PM »
Seriously mate, i've never, ever, ever had any client gripe about DR... That's a photographer's thing... But anyways it's not lacking, and ALL SAMPLES TO DATE HAVE BEEN PREPRODUCTION... wait a week or two... let the tests be done, then flame to your hearts desire... I dont care what you think or anyone else thinks about this and that... If the cameras IQ is as good as the 5d2 with AF better than a 1d4, the camera pays for itself right there

Your saying the AF is hacked up like it's a bad thing... Your getting the 7D meter, which reads the light from the AF spot(s) to feed to the AF and meter system, and the 1dx AF module?  Ok... so this is the second best AF system has to offer currently... Yep.. bad thing... seriously?  The 5d2 had the 5th best AF or maybe worse and the 5d3 is almost as good as the flagship... that's improvement any way you look at it...

I'm not settling for what Canon or any other company gives me, but unlike you, i dont gripe on forums about it... I call Canon, Email them, I get periodic surveys about their gear/customer service/etc... answer them... check your spam folders for them... Register with Canon, Join CPS, those methods, while they may seem pointless, has more chances of being seen by canon's marketing and research than Canon rumors postings...

Nope, i'm not saying that the hacked up job for the Af/meter wont be good. For all i care it can be the next big thing after sliced bread. Its a matter of principle, its the way Canon deliberately nerfs down the 5d series. (remember when they couldn't put a better Af on the mark2 cause "there wasn't any space you guys!"?)

Besides, we're in a product forum, we're here to talk about the tool, whats the point of it if we cant disagree or vent about'em here? How we run our business has little to do with a Canon forum, in here, in my opinion, we expect a technical discussion either from a lab rat or a field reporter, be it before a release or after, don't you agree?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: March 14, 2012, 12:27:35 PM »
If Canon pumped out the camera before nikon ever introduced a D800, no one would be griping about DR, no one would be griping about ISO, AF, etc... it would have been praised as the camera all others would be measured to because of lack of something to compare to..

Quite an assumption, so you sincerely believe that if there wasn't a D800 people wouldn't complain about DR  lagging behind a 1000$ camera? or about banding? Seriously?
D800 just adds salt to it cause of the -500$
it adds also abit more cause they used the full shutter /mirrorbox +Af/meter from their premium model at said price whereas Canon's cheapskates cutback there too, which leads me to :
Aside confronting it with the competition (and rightly so) many people do have expectations after a theoretical 4years of R&D; slapping a hacked up AF/meter from 2 other cams to replace a decade old one and a sensor that its novelty is more geared towards videographers is bound to leave many people unhappy.
How is the 1dx AF system in the 5d3 hacked up?  Seriously?  It's the same damn system, just no IFCL meter, which is just for advanced tracking and metering... Even with that, it has the 7D meter... i haven't heard anyone on any blog ever complain about the 7D meter... It's not the newest or shinest, but it's a better combo than the 1d4... seriously, when they're tested i'm sure the 5d3 will stand up well against the D800's AF if not surpass it, much in the same way the 7D's AF rated higher than the D300's.  the sensor size is a nice fit, a nice compromise, and when I was asked, and the general consensus of other pro photographers, very few were asking for more MP... I said, and many others on this forum, that our dream camera was the 5d2 sensor in a 7D body and AF... Canon delivered, and went way beyond...

Nice, so im saying that the AF/meter is a hacked up solution between 2 cams and then you proceed on actually saying that the AF/meter is a hacked up solution of 1dx+7d systems and then u ask me how do i dare to say its like this?  ::)

plus this:
And for me its this people and this fuzz that pushes companies into fixing things rather than people "up your level" who are happy with whatever Canon throws at them.

Get off your high horse... I'm more than happy to use/want/evolve my photography, my business, my career to meeting my clients needs as they change through the years...  Any photographer who doesn't is being left behind... But in the end, I am grateful Canon did listen.. I'm grateful for no 30+ MP...  I'm grateful for class leasing AF system, even when compared against nikons D700/D800...  I'm grateful for video when my clients just so happen wants a short video for their website, the more they use me than look for someone else to do it, the longer I keep the client... I'm grateful for more usable ISO's for when the rare times I will need it.  You're unhappy, i get it, but don't drag others down who are.

So, you just quote me there and then you're going off talking about clients and business and how maybe a client will ask you a video... huh?  :o

We don't care if you preordered the camera mate, our beef is with Canon. If you feel that these discussions are bringing you down maybe you should work on your selfesteem


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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: March 14, 2012, 11:19:21 AM »
Dont let other people bring you down to their level.  If you look at what most people wanted improved upon with the 5d3... AF, ISO, Handling, etc... Canon did just that, they listened to their consumer base, and they still get dragged in the mud... some people will never be happy. Enjoy your new camera an post pics when you can!

And what would be "their" level?
No doubt there're people who would never be  happy but most of the fuzz around here is well based. Aside confronting it with the competition (and rightly so) many people do have expectations after a theoretical 4years of R&D; slapping a hacked up AF/meter from 2 other cams to replace a decade old one and a sensor that its novelty is more geared towards videographers is bound to leave many people unhappy.
And for me its this people and this fuzz that pushes companies into fixing things rather than people "up your level" who are happy with whatever Canon throws at them.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The mythical 3D question
« on: March 14, 2012, 05:33:53 AM »
I was wondering if the mythical 3D high MP camera is suppose to sit in between the 5DMIII and the 1Dx won't the price also sit between them say "$4999", if that is the case will there be less complaining about the price of the 5DMIII?

No. The complaining about the current price is about the amount of tech you get for it, and mainly cause of the +500 over the competition.

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You do realize that with this theory you would have to be even more careful with a simple 7d rather than a D800 and u would need a 100kg tripod for a sony A77 or a 2-ton mount for that 41mp nokia?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3...why only usb 2.0?
« on: March 13, 2012, 07:39:24 AM »
Canon was always pretty tightfisted in regards to features in the 5d series, no other reason.

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D800 is going to be challenging to use hand held because there are increased shutter speed requirements due to the smaller pixels.

Perhaps im not sufficiently knowledgeable but i highly doubt this it true, according to your theory that means that in the same scenario you would shot a d700 or 5D1 with 1/40?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price
« on: March 12, 2012, 09:40:09 PM »
blablablabla, the only thing i know atm is that the XPro1 might produce images better than the 5DMarkus the 3rd.
even have a better focus( this kidding Canon whores), well D800 wasn't really what a wanted but hey i don't to pay the £2399 on a 24-70mm so i think ill pass this time for Canon, thanks for the 550d btw. PS: say f/8 bye bye.

back to your cave troll (get a 5dmk3, that 102.800 iso might be handy in there)

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I'm keeping everything (although I'm thinking of liquidating the 24-70) and next month -depending on the reviews & comments from 1st month guinea pigs- I'm seeing myself in line for a D800 with a 14-24 or 24-70.
I wont give a single penny to Canon till they get some sense about their pricing policy and the effort they seem to put in their slrs.
And in my opinion, 5dmk3 doesn't worth the investment right now since I think its price will tumble down more than 500-700$ in less than a year.

I'll always be a Canonite (just look at the beauty of any L lenses comparing with those yellow-black disproportionate things!) but i'll take a break for a bit.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO comparo: 5DIII vs. D800
« on: March 12, 2012, 10:00:00 AM »
I'm GLAD that Canon focused on ISO and camera features rather than just pumping out more megapixels...even though I had hoped for around 28mp rather than 22mp, I'm satisfied.

Can you say they focused on ISO and AF rather than more MP when the D800 has more DR and perhaps quite similar ISO and also advanced AF (although perhaps the 5D3/1DX AF will prove better than the D4/D800 AF???)?


Of course you can. What the Nikon ends up being better/worse at has no bearing on what Canon's focus was.

Doubt you can. Its not that Canon operates inside a bubble, they do have to take into account what the competition is offering or where its competition R&D is heading to.
Its another thing though to what percentage this affects their decisions. It seems that the notion of having such a huge userbase in 2 different fields (stills /video) tied with their products, affects more their decisionmaking.

I hope this pattern doesn't continue, cause it starts to remind me Sony in the 90s right before the downfall.

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EOS Bodies / Re: My hands on the 5d mrk iii experiance
« on: March 12, 2012, 09:24:01 AM »
The Focus is better than the older models

What are you focused on in the large one you linked to (http://www.skyscraperlist.com/admindocs/243A9930.JPG)?

He obviously focused on that guy over there. the one with the invisibility cloak  ;D

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What about the reason:

just because I like to take great pictures,
enjoy life
and life can be over tomorrow?

Well, it would be kinda retarded if in a poll about the technical side of a tool, inside a product forum, between 6 other options concerning hardware parameters, i had also:

# Yes! because I like to take great pictures, enjoy life and long walks in the beach with my 5d hanging on my neck and albatross flying majestically in the horizon

If that's what you want to talk about, then i suggest you look for another forum.

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@ dilbert & Zim
I've thought about adding an option concerning sensor features (such as snr, color & DR) but i decided against it cause there would be people saying: "well we dont know nothing about  the sensor and it might as well be etc" and they would have a point, although the fact that Canon hasnt been touting about it in their marketing is kinda disheartening.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price
« on: March 09, 2012, 03:49:24 PM »
So.... what makes everyone think that using the latest camera will greatly affect your photographic quality output?

Shiit it in = shiit out.

Ah, such an extraordinary wittiness sir i applause you; perhaps you would be so kind as to enrich this mundane forum from time to time with more of these 5th grade gems of yours

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