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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3...why only usb 2.0?
« on: March 13, 2012, 07:39:24 AM »
Canon was always pretty tightfisted in regards to features in the 5d series, no other reason.

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D800 is going to be challenging to use hand held because there are increased shutter speed requirements due to the smaller pixels.

Perhaps im not sufficiently knowledgeable but i highly doubt this it true, according to your theory that means that in the same scenario you would shot a d700 or 5D1 with 1/40?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price
« on: March 12, 2012, 09:40:09 PM »
blablablabla, the only thing i know atm is that the XPro1 might produce images better than the 5DMarkus the 3rd.
even have a better focus( this kidding Canon whores), well D800 wasn't really what a wanted but hey i don't to pay the £2399 on a 24-70mm so i think ill pass this time for Canon, thanks for the 550d btw. PS: say f/8 bye bye.

back to your cave troll (get a 5dmk3, that 102.800 iso might be handy in there)

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I'm keeping everything (although I'm thinking of liquidating the 24-70) and next month -depending on the reviews & comments from 1st month guinea pigs- I'm seeing myself in line for a D800 with a 14-24 or 24-70.
I wont give a single penny to Canon till they get some sense about their pricing policy and the effort they seem to put in their slrs.
And in my opinion, 5dmk3 doesn't worth the investment right now since I think its price will tumble down more than 500-700$ in less than a year.

I'll always be a Canonite (just look at the beauty of any L lenses comparing with those yellow-black disproportionate things!) but i'll take a break for a bit.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO comparo: 5DIII vs. D800
« on: March 12, 2012, 10:00:00 AM »
I'm GLAD that Canon focused on ISO and camera features rather than just pumping out more megapixels...even though I had hoped for around 28mp rather than 22mp, I'm satisfied.

Can you say they focused on ISO and AF rather than more MP when the D800 has more DR and perhaps quite similar ISO and also advanced AF (although perhaps the 5D3/1DX AF will prove better than the D4/D800 AF???)?


Of course you can. What the Nikon ends up being better/worse at has no bearing on what Canon's focus was.

Doubt you can. Its not that Canon operates inside a bubble, they do have to take into account what the competition is offering or where its competition R&D is heading to.
Its another thing though to what percentage this affects their decisions. It seems that the notion of having such a huge userbase in 2 different fields (stills /video) tied with their products, affects more their decisionmaking.

I hope this pattern doesn't continue, cause it starts to remind me Sony in the 90s right before the downfall.

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EOS Bodies / Re: My hands on the 5d mrk iii experiance
« on: March 12, 2012, 09:24:01 AM »
The Focus is better than the older models

What are you focused on in the large one you linked to (http://www.skyscraperlist.com/admindocs/243A9930.JPG)?

He obviously focused on that guy over there. the one with the invisibility cloak  ;D

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What about the reason:

just because I like to take great pictures,
enjoy life
and life can be over tomorrow?

Well, it would be kinda retarded if in a poll about the technical side of a tool, inside a product forum, between 6 other options concerning hardware parameters, i had also:

# Yes! because I like to take great pictures, enjoy life and long walks in the beach with my 5d hanging on my neck and albatross flying majestically in the horizon

If that's what you want to talk about, then i suggest you look for another forum.

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@ dilbert & Zim
I've thought about adding an option concerning sensor features (such as snr, color & DR) but i decided against it cause there would be people saying: "well we dont know nothing about  the sensor and it might as well be etc" and they would have a point, although the fact that Canon hasnt been touting about it in their marketing is kinda disheartening.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price
« on: March 09, 2012, 03:49:24 PM »
So.... what makes everyone think that using the latest camera will greatly affect your photographic quality output?

Shiit it in = shiit out.

Ah, such an extraordinary wittiness sir i applause you; perhaps you would be so kind as to enrich this mundane forum from time to time with more of these 5th grade gems of yours

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 same max dynamic range as the 5D2???
« on: March 09, 2012, 11:32:58 AM »
We are all spending hours and hours on numbers.
Very sad. Very sad.

Some time ago I saw an image taken from a MF and I was blown away.
I checked dxo and the DR was worse than the Sony Nex 10.

There are two things :
Numbers and what your eyes see.

I am going out now to take some pictures.
Or should I stay home to do some more calculations.

Please guys use the camera for where it was made for.
Numbers , numbers, numbers.
Go outside take pictures.
If you are happy and your customer is happy, then who cares if the DR is 10 or 11.

The same story everytime a new camera is about to release.

Guys i agree with both of you, its all about the image.

Now lets get it straight.
This is Canonrumors forum. Its a specific Brand product discussion point. Its not about the trade its about the tool.
If i want  to talk about photography i'll go and discuss it in a photography forum. If i want to talk about the tools, then here is the right place.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 same max dynamic range as the 5D2???
« on: March 09, 2012, 03:22:44 AM »
Somehow i doubt you would be so sensitive about its methodology and findings if LetTheRightLensIn's thread title was "Zomg 5d3 has 14DR u guys!"

In my case i tend to believe him; his approach -with the amount of data we have so far- seems reasonable, his results fits other people tests, and since Canon itself hasnt bothered to announce something about low iso performance, tends to point in the direction LetTheRightLensIn is.

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While I plan to buy a 5d3 I don't see what "justifies" the price outside of aggressive business practice. For me, nothing added to it would change my feeling. I've priced products for markets, and I suspect if I had been Canon, I'd have chosen this price too. I priced aggressively. To us consumers, the $3500 seems a shock at first, but I suspect Canon's thinking takes into account:

1. A huge pent up demand that will create strong initial sales. No reason not to milk this and lower the price over time as demand slows -- if it does slow.

2. A sub-$3k price would probably have meant turnover of nearly the entire 5D2 populace, and I don't think they can produce at that level. So, you price a lot of people out at $3500 and give them a 5D2 alternative. That keeps demand at manageable levels that can match profit forecasts. In reality, both products can create images better than what 95% of users need.

So, "justified" doesn't work for me, but I think I understand their motives. We'll agree to disagree, I'll buy the product and we'll both go on our way.

I quoted Benny because that's pretty much my thinking -- as it was when I bought a T2i at half the price (or less) than a 7D two years ago. Obviously, you don't get close to the AF and speed of the 7D with a T2i, but for someone coming back into photography, it was an excellent first DSLR. It gave me a great Canon DSLR education, and I still contend it can take excellent pictures. It also gave me time to acquire some better lenses than I already had with the intent of moving up.

The 5D3 has as much of the 1Dx as I could reasonably need or want. While I'd love to go to the streets with a 1Dx, I can't afford it, and it has far more capability than I need or will ever need. The 5D3, like the Goldilocks porridge, is "just right" for me.



Sound argument, and of course, as Canon has the right to set their price wherever they feel like there's enough stock to milk, so the userbase has the right to judge them.
 I dont think that many will go: "Hey Canon's latest price policy is retarded but hey they just do it cause they want to milk users so its ok!"

actually this might be my main gripe with Canon, I think they feel way too comfortable with their userbase

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EOS Bodies / Re: Understanding the price increase on the 5DIII
« on: March 05, 2012, 08:12:03 PM »
And pray tell us what kinda of wizardry has Nikon implemented with D800's price, since the d700 launched @ 300k Yen?

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OP here;
I do sense a defensive stance from some people that already preordered the camera or they're about to, and perhaps its my fault cause i should had clarify it a bit better.
There're a million good reasons to buy M3, the question of this thread is whether you feel that  the 500$ gap over the competition is justified, objectively and with the info we have so far.


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