And pray tell us what kinda of wizardry has Nikon implemented with D800's price, since the d700 launched @ 300k Yen?
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Geez enough threads about the price and trying to justify paying the price.
The problem is that too many people have waited to upgrade and now they feel like they waited for nothing, or that they should have just updated to the 5DII a year ago. They hung on to their 30D/40D/50D/60D/7Ds patiently and assumed (incorrectly) that the 5DIII would be the exact same price as the 5DII. Now that the 5DIII is out of their price range, they are trying to internally rationalize why it's not worth $3500, even if the simple reason is that they just can't afford it. They are trying to marginalize it, make it seem like it's just a 5DII with improved AF, because after all, it's hard to admit "hey this thing is awesome, I've been waiting on it forever, and I can't have it." It's much easier to tell yourself "meh, it's just a little better than the 5DII, I'm not missing out." (which makes them feel better about now having to get a 5DII). Then the confirmation bias sits in, they only read reviews that make the 5DIII seem not that great, they ignore the praises, and before you know it they genuinely believe it's a crap camera. They post polls talking about what would "justify the price tag."
I mean usually when people DONT want something they DONT talk about it, why should they care? Yet I see thread after thread of people that supposedly "dont want a 5DIII because it's not worth it," yet they can't shut up about the thing. I know it sucks that it's out of reach for some people, I mean announcement day was the closest thing to Christmas morning that an adult camera enthusiast can experience, and it's a bummer when you realize Santa didn't bring you anything. But have patience, the price will come down and a 5DII is still an awesome, very capable camera (I'm not getting rid of mine).
when people DONT want something they DONT talk about ityou do realize that some people have invested in the platform and seeing canon jacking up prices all across the board makes them justifiably nervous right?
I think Canon justified the price with the 61point AF and the sensor. The ISO performance from that sensor is incredible. $3500 is a lot, and is certainly more than I expected but I don't think it's overpriced. It might be a tad unfortunate for us but fair. I plan on buying one as soon as I can.
It might also help if they say offered it in a kit with the 24-70 II instead of just the 24-105 (which I do not want ever again) for a nice big discount, say $500 for the combo. $3500+$2300 for the pairing is a bit nuts. A kit with a big discount would start making the pricing look a bit more sensible.
Hi, a bit off topic but I didn’t want to start a new just for this. There was a post and link given at some point in the mêlée pre 02/03 to a web site where the guy compared Canon & Nikon sensors when the same image is pushed. Was a photo looking out a window so very high DR. Can anyone help me with that link again please?
To me, the 5D3 is really most of a 1Dx for a lot less money.
With the AF and ISOs, I think it's hard to balk at the price. The 5D3 is a sweet machine that will allow for unmatched low-light photography. And as some have already noted - considering inflation it's actually less than the 5D2 was in 2008.
But, if you wanted to do straight comparisons - I don't think a jump to $3,500 from $2,700 over 4 years is enough to warrant pulling out the pitchforks. $800... that's $200/year, or a couple of portrait gigs.
Anyway - I voted that the price is justified. Considering I just sold my 5D2 for $2,000, having to come up with $1,500 for the latest and greatest technology in pro-photography is not too much to ask, at least in my opinion.
i wanted to $800 USD rebate to your poll
Quote from: SRHelicityWe, as consumers, should demand more. I still maintain that the 5D3 should be <= $3k. I'm not a professional, nor do I make big $$, so $3500 is a significant chunk of change for me. If I had a 5D2, I couldn't see myself justifying spending $3500 (+ tax) for the 5D3. I currently have a 60D, and I've been looking to jump up to FF, but I'd rather get a budget FF (<$2k) with 3-4 fps, less sophisticated AF and AE, etc.; I may end up with a 5D2 assuming the price drops.
Sorry, while a nice sentiment, and perhaps even a popular sentiment, that's not how business works. Consumers don't get to set pricing based on what an item "should be". Pricing of a sole-source product is set by the seller based on what the market (as a whole) will bear. If all preorders are filled in days, and then people are waiting until April/May for a 5DM3 body, we might learn that the $3500USD price was too low!
As a consumer, all you can do is buy or not buy. Begging or wishing might get you some thumbs up on a forum, but will be largely ineffective with the seller.
For a lot of people, a used 5DM2 + a great lens (or 2!) is a far better use of funds.
Sorry double post. Just to repeat for emphasis, 1Dx & 5D3 AF > D4/D800 AF, based on number and spread of cross-type AF points, presence of increased-precision X-type f/2.8 & cross-type f/4 sensors, customizability (things not found on spec sheets) & AF pt. orientation-switching, etc. Anybody saying otherwise is a DPR Nikon troll.