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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* A Bit of EOS 70D Info [CR1-CR2]
« on: April 19, 2013, 02:17:01 PM »
I think cropping the full frame would still look same or better. A 300 f/2.8 on a 1DX beats same lens on 7D. Are you stating that the crop would out resolve it in terms of actually visible image quality? Not just theoretical numbers?

Have you tested this using both cameras? Not being argumentative just wondering how you know this?

It does; they are; they haven't; and they don't.

Not only does the 1DX cropped beat the 7D, but the 5DIII cropped beats the 7D, and the 1DX beats the 5DIII.

Any time anybody starts mouthing megapickle measurebator myths, it's safe to assume they've never actually done any meaningful photography with the gear in question.


I just like how after the 1dx-d7100 comparison img by ankorwatt which -understandably- you failed to address, since facts doesnt quite match up your beliefs, you downscaled abit now, comparing 1dx with 7d's zombie sensor, oh well...

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Canon General / Re: Why I don't like DxO Mark Scores
« on: April 19, 2013, 07:35:10 AM »
Its one way to spin it, but your representation is actually skewed. Just by looking at the DR diagram you can see that over 3200 the 2 curvatures are almost parallel (with the 1dx clearly better) but below that 1dx's curvature is reminiscent of previous generation sensors whereas newer toshiba or sony sensors are almost a straight line (quasi isoless). 

Basically what it shows is that sony's sensor is exemplary for its category whereas 1dx's could have been better <3200


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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Crazy... go Nikon?
« on: April 01, 2013, 02:37:05 PM »
If you had exposed optimally for the look you wanted to end up with then either manufacturers camera could have done that, with ease. But you didn't, you underexposed both and one is better at sorting out your mistake than the other, Had you overexposed both then the Canon, in my experience, would have been a better file to give you the result you wanted, Canon RAW files have much better highlight recovery potential than Nikon RAW files do.

Learn how to expose optimally for the image you want and your equipments capabilities and stop relying on being able to post process the crap out of badly underexposed images when taken with a Canon. Ever notice that nobody ever complains about the highlight recovery of Canon? That is not true if you look at Nikon forums, all Nikon users know you must underexpose to get optimal results, start overexposing your Canon and your "issues" will largely evaporate.

I keep hearing of this ever since canon sensors were surpassed by every other player out there.
That unquantifiable, ethereal, hidden in the edges of overexposure, DR. Tell you what, there is no such thing. There're no hidden dr stops there. Canon is nailed to <12 DR stops for half a decade now and that includes the whole spectrum. No hidden highlight dr anywhere. No mystical 11.5dr + 2stops hidden in the highlights kind of thing.
And as someone who shoots nikon alongside canon i cant really see where you're getting that: "Canon RAW files have much better highlight recovery potential than Nikon RAW files do". Could you post an example?

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« on: March 28, 2013, 08:41:53 AM »
Well, I wonder how ISO 51k RAW will look like in APS-C. Or even at 102k. If sometimes my 5D3 gets to its limits @ 25k and 51k. Might a thouroughly new sensor tech make that possible...? :-\ With these specs a next update of a 5D could see native ISOs 100-51200 (L 50, H1 102400, 204800) and an 1Dx (H1 204800, H2 409600) !!!

But, let's keep in mind what NL also added:
"Not from a well known source, so I'm still looking for confirmation of different aspects."

Get a 7d file and push it to 25K iso. Thats the best case 56k scenario.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Overly Hot Hotspots On 5Dmk3
« on: March 26, 2013, 05:23:43 PM »
BTW, the 5DIII has excellent DR.  14 bit compared to 12 bit on earlier models.  For video, wide DR will usually get you into trouble when you start editing your clips and compressing for DVDs.  HTP will get you closer to that compressed DR needed for video work.
I think 5ds file of any generation would fit nicely into a 12bit file without any loss.


The 5D Mark III has MUCH more highlight headroom and MUCH cleaner shadows than the 5D Mark II. I've extensivly compared both and carefully studied both of these aspects for a review website.

Your camera is deffective or you are mistaken. You also might have the camera set up wrong such as auto lighting optimizer set incorrectly.

I agree... if your dynamic range is worse than the 5D Mark II, something's definitely wrong with either your camera or your processing.

That is if he was shooting above 800. Otherwise there wont be any difference between mk2 & mk3.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Crazy... go Nikon?
« on: March 18, 2013, 08:10:51 AM »
Shooting both system is a mind-opening experience.

I bought a D600 with a 85/1.8G and I couldn't be happier. There are a lot of false prejudices about both systems widespread mostly from people who shoot one of them and happened to play around with the other for 5 min or a couple of days. They mostly derive from the absurd assumption that a Nikon camera has to feel and work the same as a Canon - otherwise it's wrong and weird. And viceversa of course.

Shoot with a Nikon camera and a good lens and you'll see for yourself. As many others have said, if you're into landscapes a D800E is the best thing you can buy.

Couldn't agree more. I'm a dual user since last year and couldn't be happier. Plus you dont really care what Canon or Nikon put on the market; one way or the other, one of them will present something that fits you. It feels good not to be tied in with one platform.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: DxOMark trashes the Leica M9 sensor
« on: March 12, 2013, 05:44:34 PM »
I've never even cared for DxO marks tbh, and dont get why anyone does, photographys an art, not a game of top trumps
You are certainly free to treat photography as an art-form only. Why are you then spending time on a forum about gear?

I see photography as a marriage between art and science. You can't have one without the other.

-h

hey maybe he's still shooting artfull glass plates and his 79 posts so far in this Canon gear forum were about them; ah no wait, they're not, they're about gear.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR at the End of March [CR2]
« on: February 28, 2013, 03:17:03 PM »
I think of new sensor, touchscreen and WiFi, that's it.
direct post to FB button would be nice too  ;D

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« on: February 23, 2013, 12:00:03 PM »
here is my guess:  based on number of pre-order numbers of nikon d7100 is not as many as expected, they admits their problems with d600 with a hope of drawing more pre-order on d7100...  ;D

D7k had oil smears issues too upon launch so icant see d7100 avoiding it  ;D

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon finally Admits D600 Dust Problem
« on: February 23, 2013, 11:56:12 AM »
I'm not sure how anyone here would have information about pre-orders of the D7100, or the Nikon forecast, but the worldwide economy is not conducive to sales of big ticket items.  None of the camera manufacturers are likely to meet their sales forcasts, and they downgrade them every quarter.
Canon has the price advantage with the 60D costing far less than the D7000 / D7100, and, in tough times, that is a huge advantage.  Even buyers who can afford more hold back and go for lower priced equipment.

If i remember correctly both 60d & d7k launched at the same price but d7k consistently outsold 60d even when the price diff. went  >100$. d7k was actually the first nikon i ever started notice around (whereas before it was just a sea of rebels)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« on: February 09, 2013, 01:38:00 PM »
24mp x 10fps would require 1dx's pipeline so its highly unlikely, even 24x8 would be kinda farfetched but it might be forced if the competition steps up. That would drive the whole APS pro category to 2K pricerange across the brands and the signs sofar from both camps point to a more conservative generation, i guess we'll see..
Why?? 7D did the same as the 1 series throughput?
Did it make it cost $6000? No. Digics cost dollars.

that 6k must be 2k i suppose? Eitherway keep in mind that msrps were 1.7k for 7d & 5k for 1d4. Its 7k for the 1d5 1dX, plus consider Canon's pricing trend for the last 2 years

My point was that it is not crazy to expect that sort of throughput from a 7D2 when even the 7D did it and no it did force the 7D to cost anything close to 1 series prices.

Ditto. I don't really see any difference between the 7D's likeness to the 1D IV and the potential for the 7D II's likeness to the 1D X. The use of dual digics and high frame rate will not make the 7D II cost as much as a 1D X. The 7D II may indeed cost around $2100, but that is the price we pay for the continual advancement of technology...newly released products rarely start out at the ending street price of their predecessors.

Agree, thats what im saying in my original post; The 7dmk2 costing as much as a 1D was a misunderstanding from LetTheRightLensIn

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DSTE batteries are pretty good in quality. In the past 3 years, I ordered over 20 pcs of them for my different dslrs and p&s.  One of them for my Canon SX40HS was dead after almost a year's normal use. I emailed them and they sent me 2 pcs replacement without questioning anything. Not all Ebay items are "bad".

+1 for DSTE. Working for me for both platforms actually and as noted their service is fair.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Camera in 2014
« on: February 08, 2013, 06:31:11 AM »
24mp x 10fps would require 1dx's pipeline so its highly unlikely, even 24x8 would be kinda farfetched but it might be forced if the competition steps up. That would drive the whole APS pro category to 2K pricerange across the brands and the signs sofar from both camps point to a more conservative generation, i guess we'll see..

Why?? 7D did the same as the 1 series throughput?
Did it make it cost $6000? No. Digics cost dollars.

that 6k must be 2k i suppose? Eitherway keep in mind that msrps were 1.7k for 7d & 5k for 1d4. Its 7k for the 1d5 1dX, plus consider Canon's pricing trend for the last 2 years

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Lenses / Re: Roger Buys a Camera System: A 24-70mm System Comparison
« on: February 07, 2013, 06:54:05 PM »

... that's also what I think and have read about the choice, though it really depends on the scene because obviously for motion and fast shooting with more need for the fast Canon af and w/o allowing for the vc to settle the Tamron cannot generate more keepers.

Depends on the shooting style/requirements. You're right about sports for example, on the other hand consider low light receptions, or low light everything i suppose, IS is a serious advantage IQ wise either allowing you sharper images or lower iso.

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Lenses / Re: Roger Buys a Camera System: A 24-70mm System Comparison
« on: February 07, 2013, 04:34:53 PM »
Ugh, so I'm about to get the worst performing combination - 6d (even less sharp than 5d2/5d3) and the Tamron :-o ... but on the bright side that's also cheaper, I'm not going to shoot the Tamron @f2.8 all the time and I'm reading that

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The real bottom line here is that there are no losers. The resolution numbers all of these combinations show are nothing short of amazing. For example, all three zooms are equal to, or slightly better than, the superb Zeiss 50mm f/2 Makro Planar at equal apertures on the same camera."
Actually the tamron lens confuses me abit. I have a mk1 and the nikon and im thinkin' of adding the tamron as an experiment. Although slightly underperforming it has IS. So someone has to balance out that with a nikon/mk2 will have the maximum quality but tamron will offer more keepers, so quality per quantity might be higher.

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