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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD Hands-On
« on: December 06, 2012, 03:00:07 PM »
I'm loving these third party lenses.

On my wish list:
Sigma 35 1.4
Tamron 70-200 2.8
Also need a 17 - 55 (approx) but the Canon f2.8 one is too expensive. Anyone know if the Sigma 17-50 2.8 is good?

I've tested one in a friend's camera albeit in a nikon mount.
Drawbacks: no manual override,
But, that thing is sharp as hell, actually i lost a bet cause this thing's centerframe is sharper than nikon's 24-70 or 50 prime  :o
(not gonna comment on AF, it was fast & spot on but then again i didnt have experience with that camera's AF(d7000) or the native 17-55)
Wish i had a nikon2canon mount to compare it with some of my glass.
Perhaps it was a really good sample, but still...

No manual override?  That conclusion differs from all the reports we have had so far.  Lenses equipped with Tamron's USD motor all have full time manual override. 

I'm more concerned about the early reports that the lens is significantly shorter than other 70-200mm zooms.  I find that a big deal!

a misunderstanding, i was talking about the sigma 17-50!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD Hands-On
« on: December 05, 2012, 10:54:49 PM »
I'm loving these third party lenses.

On my wish list:
Sigma 35 1.4
Tamron 70-200 2.8
Also need a 17 - 55 (approx) but the Canon f2.8 one is too expensive. Anyone know if the Sigma 17-50 2.8 is good?

I've tested one in a friend's camera albeit in a nikon mount.
Drawbacks: no manual override,
But, that thing is sharp as hell, actually i lost a bet cause this thing's centerframe is sharper than nikon's 24-70 or 50 prime  :o
(not gonna comment on AF, it was fast & spot on but then again i didnt have experience with that camera's AF(d7000) or the native 17-55)
Wish i had a nikon2canon mount to compare it with some of my glass.
Perhaps it was a really good sample, but still...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D pricing... so much difference worldwide
« on: December 03, 2012, 08:39:28 AM »
Why is there so much difference on the pricing of the Canon 6D? Some countries really get a raw deal.

In Germany it's €1998 on Amazon which is pretty reliable at matching the lowest non-shady online price. That's certainly not great, but not bad enough to wait a year for it to drop significantly - in absolute €€€ terms the devaluation cannot be as large as fast as with the 5d3.

We have (amazon.de) 6D @ 2K, D800 @ 2.3K and D600 @ 1.7K! i doubt 6d can hold its price for even 2weeks

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Likely Price Trend
« on: December 03, 2012, 08:24:53 AM »
I would strongly suggest against buying it now. The 6d has alot of fat to burn as 5d3 had upon launch.
5D3 lost almost 30% in a year and i expect 6d to dive 20% by summer, enough so you could spare for a new flash and/or a lens ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: More 6D sample images - with RAW files.
« on: December 03, 2012, 08:12:23 AM »
Depends i suppose, definitely not "crop 800 = FF 6400" though..,
Comparing with the undying current 18mp crop i would say the difference is between 1 & 3/2 stops, comparing with something like Pentax's K5(which has the best implementation of Sony's 16mp) I would say the difference is around 1/2stop.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III Body $2499
« on: November 23, 2012, 08:51:45 AM »
Some of us here were talking upon launching that the price will roll-off 500-700$ before the end of the year but seeing ~30% off in less than a year, wow

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 5D3 vs. BMC
« on: November 21, 2012, 01:56:41 PM »
There is alot of talk about canon falling behind in sensor tech and (in combination with high pricing & competition) losing market but i think this is where Canon shot themselves in the foot and lost a huge market.

They basically failed to capitalize on the revolution 5d2 brought on the market and instead of pursuing that market they took a conservative and wrong based approach. The 5d2 boom on the video market wasnt about having a dslr form factor with okay IQ and definitely not for 10k+. It was about great IQ - interchangeable lens system on a 2k-4k price range.

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Lenses / Re: Canon Announces New Lens Caps!
« on: November 06, 2012, 06:57:03 AM »
I wish the pinch was horizontal and not vertical with the lettering.  [ducking]

design dictated i guess, you would end up with a small logo or off centered

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 650D Results on DxOMark
« on: October 08, 2012, 08:07:00 PM »
Yes because DXO is the problem, not that Canon is processor-wise stagnant for more than half a decade.

I mean DXO is for the clueless, no matter that their aps-c sensors are bottom leaders and actually getting outclassed by 4/3 cams, they're still better than any cameraphone out there.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who said Canon sensors suck?!?
« on: September 26, 2012, 07:15:02 AM »
@jrista im afraid your post is choke full of wild assumptions and misinformation. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.
Rent a D800 and test it. Rent a D600 and test it. Recovery is better in both sides of the spectrum.

As for the thread's title, my opinion is yes, Canon sucks. A lot.
I'm not saying this in relation to what other brands put in the market. I'm saying this based on the potential of Canon as the top tier manufacturer of dslrs.
After 4 years what we see is basically a resolved AF. Thats great, but given the resources of Canon for R&D, it's just laughable how they advanced sensor-wise. Basically they didnt.
I'm sorry but the difference with previous generation is just a measly update. As for the whole video-oriented designed sensor that also was a joke, what other can it be when that thing is capable of delivering something like 600lines in 1080p? Or was it the slight better behaviour in moire?(not even going to refer to DR etc)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 20, 2012, 11:46:07 AM »
Well, two years later we're gonna have 6Dm2 with multi-cross focus points.

Yes but with the same sensor, cause Canon heard the people and the people only wanted a new AF  ;D

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 20, 2012, 11:41:52 AM »


The 6D will sell...a LOT.  It's just like when the 7D was launched to give those moving up from a Rebel to the x0D series another option in 2009... "7D or 50D?? Hmmm...if I buy the 50D will I wish I'd bought the 7D in six months?"

The 6D Will sell a lot????? HAHAHAHA............ At the same Price you can have something very very very BETTER: Nikon D600! I always loved Canon.... In the 2012 a product like that with that features and with that price is VERY VERY RIDICULOUS. See what the D600 have more for the same price!



You can't compare what happen with 7D: it's ridicolous!!.....

How old are you?  15?  Event shooters with multiple Canon bodies don't even look at Nikon and vice versa.  What is so "very very very BETTER" about the D600 grasshopper? It is still a Nikon after all, no? 

...and it's exactly like the 7D launch, 60D launch and even 1Dc launch... in that it's another option to choose from... having more choices is always "very very very BETTER".

first signs in are not that positive though, according to amazon list 6D is currently @ #14 below 60d, a bunch of rebels & dxxxxs, both body & kit D600s and D800. Not very promising for an entry level enthusiast camera...

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EOS Bodies / Re: DxOMark Sensor Performance: Nikon vs. Canon
« on: September 19, 2012, 07:05:20 PM »

I'm just surprised at how many people call foul at DXO without taking the effort to really analyze what the measurements/results show.

+1

confirmation bias, thats why you didnt also get a response over your comment @ dtaylor and his "the right way" DR test.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DxOMark Sensor Performance: Nikon vs. Canon
« on: September 19, 2012, 06:02:59 PM »
Funny how these threads emerge on this forum with each new Nikon review on DxO.  As an interesting comparison Tech Radar, who is apparantly using the same DxO Analyzer software, recently posted a comparison of SNR and Dynamic Range for the 1DX, 5DIII, 1D4, D4 and D800. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/cameras-and-camcorders/cameras/digital-slrs-hybrids/canon-1dx-1091200/review/page:5#articleContent

While it does show an advantage for the Nikons on base ISO Dynamic Range, the Canons actually shows a better ability to retain it over the ISO range.
:o :P
Really?

actually what techradar results show is that they dont have a clue what they're doing. Just look at the progression of these lines, they dont even make sense!

According to the page you linked we can assume that:

Raw (after conversion to TIFF) dynamic range:
  • D4 has the same DR either @ 100 or 1600
  • 1Dx has peak DR @ 3200 and at 6400 it falls to the same level as @ 100 (magic!)
  • 1DIV has a variation of .5stop through the entire range of isos

JPEG dynamic range:
  • 1Dx peak DR @ 12800  :o
  • 1D4 solid DR from 100 through 4000

Its not the 1st time either that there is a discussion about techradar's silly results, just search around here or any other forum.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DxOMark Sensor Performance: Nikon vs. Canon
« on: September 19, 2012, 01:54:46 PM »
Anyway, without being a fanboy at all. I know that nikon cameras recently are very very good , DXO over rates them, how can the d3200 be as good as the 5dmark III...

It cant and noone says it is. What Dxo says is that certain aspects of 3200 sensor are better than canon's. Thats reasonable since canon's sensor tech remained quasi-stagnant for a whole generation. Lets not overgeneralise just because we dont like it

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