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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Samsung NX-1 Review
« on: November 25, 2014, 10:47:40 PM »
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Ultimately we don't get any choice.

Canon chooses what enables them to make the most money.

If EVFs can be built at a lower cost than OVFs and generate greater profit, which way is Canon going to go in order to keep shareholders, etc, happy?
dilbert, either accept what the market offers (as if you could afford it prior to next Spring's tax refund), or start/buy a camera manufacturing company, bend it to your desires.

Either way, please stop your incessant whining here on CR, save it for your wife or someone else, somewhere else, anywhere else.

Whining?

I'm not the one refusing to accept that the future is coming.

In the present day, digital photography is no place for conservatism unless you want to be obsolete.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: LuLa likes the Samsung NX1
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:59:14 PM »
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/samsung_nx1_first_impressions.shtml

LuLa is impressed. A contender for the APS-C crown.
LuLa has trouble reading Samsung's spec page that they linked to in the 'review'.
Lula mentions the NX1's weather sealing, Samsung's page states;
"6 This product is not water or dust proof. It is designed to resist dust and minor splashes only. Exposure to severe conditions is not recommended."
 
Not impressed with LuLa.
 
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Well since there is no standard for the term "weather sealing" it is hard to tell if they got it right or wrong. No one is claiming that the camera is "weather sealed" only that it has "weather sealing".  So if it is sealed against dust and minor splashes, it probably does have "weather sealing"

That's the problem with camera manufacturers using the term "weather sealing"

Exactly. I believe that Lens Rentals has pointed this out in the past.

And if you look at Canon product pages that mention "weather <something>", nowhere do you find an actual definition of what that claim means.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:55:44 PM »
Not pointing in any special direction, and I could have posted this in quite a few threads here today: But somehow I can imagine early on in the weeks that there are individuals who have had sex offerings turned down during the weekend - by both of their hands...

I love that :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:51:31 PM »
PEOPLE!
It's far too early for a 5DMk4, Canon is not Nikon.

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is.  5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.

So am I cancelling my ebay listing or not?  :o

And the 5D3 was 3.5 years due to unexpected natural phenomenon interrupting things.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:49:33 PM »
,,,
However:
(1) if you are using flash as your only light source in a dark environment then you could use the -3Ev to achieve autofocus while the camera shoots at a clean ISO and reasonable shutter speed.
(2) if you are using a flash which has an AF-assist beam then you won't need -3Ev for achieving focus.

Anyway, my point is that not everyone shoots with ambient light alone, some people use a combination of ambient and flash and some use purely flash. Good specs are useful but not always necessary.

Top of the class!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 07:02:55 AM »
What kind of people wonder around taking pictures in the dark with teleconverters?


Nikon's is more rewarding if you're using teleconverters with your lens or you're focusing in very low light situations (-3EV on the D750.)

If you put a 2x teleconverter onto a f/4 zoom lens then you're at f/8.0. Low light levels, at events, near dawn or dusk, etc.

-3 EV with an f/8 lens could mean, for example, a 0.5 s exposure at ISO 102400.  How rewarding do you think that would be at events or shooting at dawn or dusk?  Apparently you have no comprehension of the amount of light -3 EV represents.

That would be fine if AF was in some way linked to ISO, but other than its rating, it isn't - your camera's PDAF array isn't built into the sensor, so changing the ISO that you shoot at won't help your AF (and if you're using live view, the camera will increase ISO as required for contrast based AF.)

To put this in better context,  using an f/4.0 lens at ISO 100, EV-3 correlates to an exposure time of 2 minutes and EV-1 (which the 5D Mark II does) would get you 30 seconds. At dawn/dusk, I have so often found TTL autofocus to not work that I default to live view AF now (if not manual.)

For the curious, a full EV table can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_value

So yes, I know exactly how much light -3 EV represents (and have experience shooting in very low light conditions.)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:10:03 AM »
Thank you for pointing outside of in certain select situations, such as sports and wildlife photography, there's no reason to buy Canon.

Good try.  Actually, pretty pathetic...but I thought I'd start by saying something nice.


Well consider that reviewers everywhere are now generally panning Canon when it comes to their DSLRs and especially the sensor.

Really?  Reviewers everywhere?  You need to read more widely.


I'd prefer a system which gave me the same AF performance with every lens because then I'm not faced with having to make any compromises.

Even if that AF performance was less accurate and precise than it could be with faster lenses?  That's a pretty big compromise you'd be making for that 'same AF performance'.  Oh, and speaking of same AF performance with every lens, every Canon lens that mounts directly on a Canon dSLR will autofocus.  Will every Nikon lens that mounts directly on a Nikon dSLR autofocus?  More compromises...

Explain to me how the autofocus works on the TS/E 17mm.
Or does that lens not mount directly on a Canon DSLR?

Facts, do you have a problem with those?
Or do you just prefer sweeping generalizations without regard to facts?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:02:21 AM »
What kind of people wonder around taking pictures in the dark with teleconverters?


Nikon's is more rewarding if you're using teleconverters with your lens or you're focusing in very low light situations (-3EV on the D750.)

If you put a 2x teleconverter onto a f/4 zoom lens then you're at f/8.0. Low light levels, at events, near dawn or dusk, etc.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 25, 2014, 03:00:36 AM »
Thank you for pointing outside of in certain select situations, such as sports and wildlife photography, there's no reason to buy Canon.

Other situations may also include (a) spontaneous photos of active kids (b) macro photos of relatively active insects (e.g. in the summer or tropical countries). Personally, MILC offerings do not offer the solutions I want either because of the response time of EVF or limited macro lens solutions (let me know when you find a MILC macro lens with equivalent f > 150 mm).

So, apart from relatively inactive subjects and landscape photos, I cannot find enough reasons to buy non-Canikon stuff.

haha, and so it goes.

Everyone keeps saying "but what about the Canon camera system." Less than 10% of the marketplace buys into that. Less than 10%.

What about those macro or TS/E lenses?

They're niche products. Regular people taking regular photographs are not likely to be interested. So too are the big, fast, primes/zooms. When it comes to units moved, they're niche products compared to the mass market for DSLR gear.

So for the vast majority of DSLR owners, there is no benefit from the "camera system", be it Canon, Nikon, Samsung or Sony.

What's important is that first camera body and lens and the most likely resultant impact of that is that some number of years later, good/bad experience with that camera and lens may influence further buying decisions.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 11:15:10 PM »
I didn't look into the d750 specs and I'm not in the market for one, but you do notice that the full-fledged 5d3/1dx af array is only available with some select new and expensive lenses?
Yeah, new and expensive lenses like the EF 50mm f/1.8 II and the EF 35mm f/2, both from 1990 and one of them costing just over $100. I guess you didn't look into the 5DIII/1D X specs much, either.   ::)

LOL, you've made your point - I can use the full 1dx af array with a 50/1.8 ;-)

My point is: popular lenses like 24-70L1/2.8, 100mm macros/2.8 aren't group A - other popular budget choices like the 400/5.6 have a lot less cross-points which is about on par with the d750. Thus general statements are difficult with the Canon system while Nikon really just depends on the max. aperture up to 11 cross points at f8 (5d3: 1 (one)).

The 5D III has a total of 20 high-precision off-center cross-type points for EF lenses with maximum apertures of f/4 or larger.

Interesting difference in emphasis.

Whereas Canon currently makes it better for you if you've bought expensive (large aperture) lenses, Nikon's is more rewarding if you're using teleconverters with your lens or you're focusing in very low light situations (-3EV on the D750.)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 09:29:15 PM »
My point is: popular lenses like 24-70L1/2.8, 100mm macros/2.8 aren't group A - other popular budget choices like the 400/5.6 have a lot less cross-points which is about on par with the d750. Thus general statements are difficult with the Canon system while Nikon really just depends on the max. aperture up to 11 cross points at f8 (5d3: 1 (one)).

Which would you prefer – a simpler system like Nikon's AF with essentially a fixed number of points and crosses, or a more complex system like Canon's, where with faster lenses you gain benefits like more cross-type points and greater accuracy and precision?

Oh, and if you choose the 'simpler' Nikon AF system, don't forget your concordance list to know which lenses can AF on which bodies...   ;)

I'd prefer a system which gave me the same AF performance with every lens because then I'm not faced with having to make any compromises.

And I'd prefer my AF to work at -3EV rather than to have a select few AF sensors work better with f/2.8 or faster lenses.

But that's just me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 09:18:11 PM »
If people don't see any room for improvement in certain areas than there won't be any.

Hmmmm...I haven't really seen many people, if any, deny room for improvement.   But there is a significant difference between 'it would be great if Canon improved their sensors' and 'Canon is stuck in the dark ages of technology, their sensors produce poor and unacceptable image quality, and the company is doomed because they are failing to innovate'.

Well consider that reviewers everywhere are now generally panning Canon when it comes to their DSLRs and especially the sensor. Someone produce a list of all the cameras that had the 18MP sensor in it - list was 8 or 10 or more cameras long. That's a long time to go without upgrading the central component of their digital camera lineup and to go so long without an update does seem to suggest that Canon either was or still is stuck in the dark ages and unable to move forward.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]
« on: November 24, 2014, 09:15:22 PM »
Clearly Canon is no longer top of the pile when it comes to IQ coming out of the sensors in digital cameras, in certain select situations, and ignoring considerations like lenses, flash systems, autofocus performance, etc.

There, I fixed that for you.

Thank you for pointing outside of in certain select situations, such as sports and wildlife photography, there's no reason to buy Canon.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Samsung NX-1 Review
« on: November 24, 2014, 08:15:55 PM »
Glad I was able to provide you with some amusement. I often find your posts equally amusing.   :)  You are free to choose what works for you. Thankfully, you don't get to chose for the rest of us.

Ultimately we don't get any choice.

Canon chooses what enables them to make the most money.

If EVFs can be built at a lower cost than OVFs and generate greater profit, which way is Canon going to go in order to keep shareholders, etc, happy?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Samsung NX-1 Review
« on: November 24, 2014, 07:31:07 PM »
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Well said.  Although EVF's have made great strides in reducing lag and increasing fidelity (and even offer some advantages, insofar as previewing exposure changes), they are still not really competitive with an OVF.  For most wildlife and sports shooters, an OVF remains mandatory, as it's the only way to see what's really happening through the lens real time.  When (if?) EVF's reach a point where the image quality is so great that it is indiscernible from a high grade OVF in ALL lighting conditions and its lag is so slight as to be undetectable in ALL lighting conditions, then and only then will they make the OVF obsolete.  I don't know if that is ever going to be achievable, but I suspect it's a long ways off.  I am not opposed to mirrorless cameras.  I just think it's absurd when its advocates tout the "end of the dinosaur SLR."

Moreover, although this AF system looks impressive it has yet to be tested under the same diverse conditions as the 7D2's, which has been extensively tested by a large number of professional photographers under very challenging conditions.  I doubt it will perform as well as the 7D2's phase detect AF system, but it'll be interesting to see it challenged more. 

Understand, none of this is meant to demean the NX1 and the mirrorless concept. It's amazingly courageous to aim so much higher in performance than other mirrorless companies have done in taking on fast action wildlife and sports as your target. Kudos to Samsung! (Although the lack of an included battery charger is a very consumer oriented way of thinking and certainly a mistake!)  I look forward to more comprehensive reviews and tests. One way or another, it's an interesting camera!

So which part of Canon do you work for?

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