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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 05, 2013, 04:03:23 AM »
Actually, hamada, I think that guy made a really nice point about just buying the 5DII. A used II is already quite cheap and I don't think it will go down all that much more if/when a 5D4 were announced. That way, you can enjoy the FF experience for a few more years and then SELL IT when a new one is announced and you won't lose too much money. I'm not sure why you think a used 5DII will be similar money to a new 5D4 but that is just not true.

i only wanted to make clear my post is not about image quality concerns... just "purchase value". :)

i think i will go for the 6D and keep my 7D.

the other option would be to sell the 7D and go for a 5D MK3.
but i think i am more flexible when i keep the 7D.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 06:23:06 PM »
With Photoshop/Lightroom you can change your camera profile to get the "correct" skin tone. Search Colorcheck passport or Custom DNG profile. I never have any skin tone problem with Canon.


yeah i know.
still i would want to have as correct colors as possible out of camera.
and it´s well known that canon has a little RED issue.
there are even jokes about the CANON RED... not for nothing.
 
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Doesn't mean to offense, but from what you are saying I think you should spend more time to learn more about photography than chasing gears. I was in the same situation at you, always hold out for the best. But now, I'm more confident with my techniques and knowledge.


again, as i wrote to the other guy,  you have not carefully read or understand (maybe my bad english) my postings.
i have no problems using a 5Dc or 5D MK2 .. but i would not want to buy one when i know i can get even better stuff soon for the same (or nearly the same) money.

that´s what my post is all about.








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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 11:44:27 AM »
ok... that helps me making a decision. :)

one more question about the 5D MK3 and 6D.
one thing im not very happy with is the default skin colors out of my 7D.
they are to redish.

and while im pretty good with photoshop it´s annoying that i have to adjust the skintones.
i have a 300 euro olympus M43 that delivers much better skintones out of camera.

are the skintones better with the 6D and 5D MK3?
what are your experiences?
 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 10:03:04 AM »
Scenario 1, by far the most likely:  The 5DIII and 6D will be replaced on an increasely slower replacement schedule with increasingly smaller improvements as the technology is maturing.  Earliest, 2015 (3 year), most likely, 2016 (4 yr), possible, 2017-2018.

if that is the case, then i would buy a canon FF camera without hesitation.

If it helps, toward the bottom of the link is a timeline as to when Canon released DSLRs.  The 5D series was already ~4 yrs between releases, which would put the 5DIV release in 2016. 

yes i know that.

but with all this talk about the smaller manufacturing process, i wonder if it will take so long this time?

and if they switch to a new process, will canon first use it for the flagship models only or use it for all cameras to write down the investment faster?

well so much uncertainty. ;)

i guess what i really need is encouragement that i do the right thing with my money. :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 09:55:29 AM »
I don't know how much MP is required for landscape. The photo below was taken with 5D III and cropped nearly 80%. For my ave Joe's taste, I'm still happy with the result. 

the more the better.. ;)
i have an epson 3880 printer.

for best prints at 360 PPI and A2 size i could use 8500x5900 pixel.

i know, i know, with bigger prints you can get away with less resolution.
but why?
photographer tend to view (inspect) prints from 15-20cm anyway, no matter how big the print is. :)

for my taste around 30MP would be great. it´s still an acceptable filesize (in megabytes).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 09:44:28 AM »
Scenario 1, by far the most likely:  The 5DIII and 6D will be replaced on an increasely slower replacement schedule with increasingly smaller improvements as the technology is maturing.  Earliest, 2015 (3 year), most likely, 2016 (4 yr), possible, 2017-2018.

if that is the case, then i would buy a canon FF camera without hesitation.
 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 09:26:15 AM »
All modern cameras are pretty amazing. If you can't get adequate results from current gear, or even an "old" 5D mkII, I think there are bigger issues that more megapixels and a little more shadow detail can cure.

People have been successfully creating photographic images for generations. There will always be advancements in technology.

please read my postings again so you understand what they are about... this doesn´t help me a bit.

an analogy i read here on this forum:

i need a car to get to work.
i can buy a volkswagen for 19000 euro and it does the job perfectly fine.
still, who would buy a volkswagen when he can get a way better mercedes for the same money?

with all this talk about the outdated canon manufacturing and a switch to a smaller litho process soon, i just fear it´s a bad time to buy a canon FF camera right now.

thoughts i have, maybe things will change much faster at the end of 2013 and in 2014.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 09:05:08 AM »
there is no question that the 6D or 5D MK3 sensor would be more then sufficient for me. :)
i mean gallery prints and landscape books are produced with worse cameras.

the problem i have is more about an "investment concern".
even when it´s good enough... i would feel bad when i see a much better FF camera (sensor) next year and i can´t afford it then (because i spend my spare money on a 6D or 5D MK3 today).
i know it sounds weird... but i bet many feel that way. 

i started with photography a few years back and i always felt the urge to go fullframe.
but i always said to myself "wait for the next generation of sensors and buy good glass today".
now after all this waiting i was a bit dissapointed to see that the image quality has not much increased from the 5D MK2.

i can´t shell out a few thousand dollars a year for new camera stuff, like some other people here. i spend a lot of my money for travelling.

but i sense the overall opinion is there will be no new canon FF camera (i can afford) before the end of 2014?!









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Software & Accessories / Re: Equipment Breakdown
« on: April 04, 2013, 07:01:16 AM »
well i can hardly identify anything with this bad quality image.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 06:49:33 AM »
It is said that the Canon big MP camera is to be announced this year. I bet it is gonna be very pricy, and since you are happy with you 7D for now, I´d continue to save up money, so you´d have the cash when they release the camera.

nah.. i don´t think i will spend over 6000 euro on a camera.

the canon big MP camera that is rumored is out of my league.
i don´t want a brick 1 series body. ;)  and 40+ MP is also more then i want.
28-32 MP would be great for my needs and my epson printer.

nikons D800(E) would be fine from the price.

a 5D MK4 with a new sensor, better DR and around 30MP for 3000 euro that is my dream camera.  ;)





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Software & Accessories / Re: Gitzo, Really Right Stuff or ???
« on: April 04, 2013, 06:03:35 AM »
no offens but i really wonder that amateurs spend so much money on tripods.

don´t get me wrong i know a good tripod is essential.

i see a LOT of documentations from world famous photographers. i love to watch everything that has to do with photography.
of course GITZO is often used but i also see BENRO, MANFROTTO and the likes used by famous photographers.

for me that means, if a tripod that cost a fraction (50-33%) of a GITZO is good enough for these people they must be good enough for me?  ;)

so what is it with these 1000+ euro tripods?
are they really worth it as photographic equipment or is it more like a louis vuitton handbag?


now i have to admit, i have a GITZO tripod and RRS ballhead myself.  ;D

but it was a present from my father.
i would not have spend that kind of money to be honest.
and as this is my first and only tripod, i don´t have experience with cheaper tripods.

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EOS Bodies / Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?
« on: April 04, 2013, 05:30:20 AM »
first, this is not a troll post. :)

let me explain, im not rich but i spend all my spare money on photography and travel.
right now i have saved enough money to make the jump to fullframe.

but im not sure if right now is the best time.

i fear that if/when canon updates their sensor manufacturing (im sure they will soon), replacements of the current cameras will come faster then usual. 

and of course i want the best for my hard earned money.

im pretty happy with my 7D right now.
thought for landscape work there is this lust for FF.  ;)
i would love to have a canon camera like the D800E.
something around 30-32MP from canon with great DR and clean shadows you can push without introducing so much noise.

i can not switch to nikon, i could not afford it and i did not like the nikon handling.
as i said im not rich but over they years i have collected pretty good canon equipment.
always in mind that i may switch to FF, i bought good quality lenses (only EF-S i have is the 10-22mm).

i know nobody here knows what canons plans or is doing in the future.
but what do you think?

does this camera generation will last as long as their predecessor generations?
in case of the 5D MK2 that was 4 years.
i would not want to wait that long.. but when a new generation is out in 12 month i could wait.



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Lenses / Re: Tamron 24-70 f2.8 or Canon 24-105 f4 ??
« on: March 31, 2013, 05:59:26 PM »
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Pretty much any focal length will work, you don't need ultra wide.

how do you know?  8)
i love ultrawide but i don´t have the money yet to buy a EF 14mm.
i love the 10-22mm on my 7D and will later sure buy a UWW lens.

but this is a hobby and my budget is limited... so a 6D kit for now.  :) 

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Invest in a good tripod and remote release, and don't spend a ton of money on the wrong product.

i have a GITZO tripod and RRS ballhead already. ;)

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As a alternative, a 17-40mm L is excellent when stopped down, and relatively inexpensive.

mhm i thought the tamron or canon would maybe have better IQ at 24mm then the 17-40mm?
and i need something to cover the 24-70mm range when i buy into FF.

the wide f2.8 i get with the tamron would be a nice bonus when i shot indoors (churches as mentioned). but yes most of the time the lens would be used at f8 and above.




 

 
 

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Lenses / Re: Tamron 24-70 f2.8 or Canon 24-105 f4 ??
« on: March 31, 2013, 05:45:45 PM »
no you got that wrong as i wrote i want to buy a KIT. the price is for 6D + lens.

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It is very strange that you quoted so high price for Tamron. In Lithuania I bought this lens (brand new) for EUR 1,000. This was in half a year ago.


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However, you have to take into account what focal length you really need.

i don´t really need the 35mm more on the long end.
more important is image quality.

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Lenses / Tamron 24-70 f2.8 or Canon 24-105 f4 ??
« on: March 31, 2013, 04:30:58 PM »
im thinking about going FF and buying a 6D for landscape and portrait work.

there are two kits i can buy that cost nearly the same.

one with the Tamron AF 24-70mm f/2.8 SP Di USD VC (2549 euro).
the other with the Canon EF 24-105mm f4 IS USM (2489 euro).

im not sure what to buy.  ???

i have a 100mm f2.0 i will use for portraits, but i need something wide for landscapes.
have no money right now for a 14mm or 16-35mm.

i also have the 70-200mm f4 IS i use for landscapes.

so buying the 6D as kit with one of these lenses seems like a good idea.

what i want from the lens is sharpness and good contrast (AF speed is not that important).

main use for the lens would be landscape and architectural stuff.
well "architectural" means churches, bridges and stuff i shot when i travel.
not real estate photography. :)
 
what´s your experience or advice?
 
 



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