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EOS-M / EF M 11-22 from Vistek
« on: July 24, 2013, 01:53:35 PM »
My lens is shipping today to the U.S! I'll update with initial thoughts when I get it in 4-5 days.

These two lenses and the EOS M is a pretty potent small package I can take anywhere.

EOS-M / Re: EOS-M EXIF Screwup?
« on: July 22, 2013, 10:41:45 AM »
Ah, I'm viewing it in OS X Preview. I'll try looking at it using something else. Presumably the problem is in the Apple RAW library.

So this is interesting, what is actually stored in the EXIF - a number indicating the lens?

Yep, it's Apple's problem.  I see it, too, on a sample image downloaded from canon.jp - both in Preview and Aperture.  I've submitted a bug report to Apple.

FWIW, viewing the EXIF with exiftool (from Terminal) shows the lens correctly identified as the EF-M 18-55mm.

Interesting, exiftool must have its own database (so you need to keep updating it as new cameras and lenses are developed?)

I wonder what LR on OS X says? If anybody has it handy see what it says, or I can check later today.

EOS-M / Re: EOS-M EXIF Screwup?
« on: July 22, 2013, 09:36:35 AM »
Ah, I'm viewing it in OS X Preview. I'll try looking at it using something else. Presumably the problem is in the Apple RAW library.

So this is interesting, what is actually stored in the EXIF - a number indicating the lens?

EOS-M / EOS-M EXIF Screwup?
« on: July 22, 2013, 07:59:36 AM »
If you have the EOS-M with the 18-55 lens take a look at the lens EXIF information in a JPG shot. Do you see the following?

Lens ID: 4,143
Lens Info: 18, 55, 0, 0
Lens Model: Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM

What the hell? The Lens Info seems to tell the focal range, but did they program these with the wrong Lens Model information!?

Canon General / Re: Canon Testing a 75+ Megapixel EOS-1 Body? [CR1]
« on: July 21, 2013, 06:28:38 PM »
Thus, having 75 megapixels available would provide another variable that I could control, just as I control WB, f-stop and shutter speed.

Possibly. Computational capacity increases exponentially however, including camera pixels, so 70MP seems only natural. Are we suddenly now at a point where we want to change number of pixels on a per-shot basis? Why, other than to optimize disk usage that will be twice as cheap in a year?

Anyhow going 20MP to 70MP seems an unlikely marketing move, 40-50 is surely more likely.

EOS-M / Re: EOS M 22 pancake lens cap
« on: July 20, 2013, 03:23:58 PM »
The threads don't last forever, especially one misthreading and you've thrashed it. Somehow on my 24-105 the lens filter thread is gone, in that a filter won't dead end and keeps spinning at the end of its travel. That plus the time to put on and off makes it a poor choice for a lens cap in my opinion.

Center pinch lens caps are really only useful for long telephotos when you have the hood on. Otherwise I think they're more of an annoyance and I prefer the older style.

EOS-M / Re: My EF M 11-22 has arrived
« on: July 19, 2013, 07:24:40 AM »
Thanks nubu, could you do more general shots like the concert ones and post them directly in the thread? Do something at the two ends of the focal length.

Looks great otherwise, nice pictures for a nice and small camera.

EOS-M / Re: 2.0.2 firmware and third-party batteries
« on: July 19, 2013, 07:21:45 AM »
Mt Spokane brings up some interesting points (not a surprise) that I wanted to follow up on. It sounds as though you're advocating for either an OEM battery or possibly a third party battery with OEM specs (if such a thing exists). Would you consider the two on par?

What's your recommendation for someone who will rarely need a backup battery?

Speaking for MS, no he's just discussing some of the many technical issues with batteries. We have no idea about the characteristics of OEM vs 3rd party, but LiOn battery tech is pretty old school by now and China certainly knows how to make them. For me, except for the 5DmII which is chipped I've always bought 3rd party and never had a problem. They're usually not made quite as well as the originals but no difference otherwise, at least I never noticed a capacity difference.

EOS-M / Re: Share your thoughts - M pricing
« on: July 17, 2013, 08:30:20 AM »
After getting the recent $299 kit on sale (22mm) I wanted to fill out the rest of the system. I love the camera by the way, perfect complement to my DSLR. Not as good as, but about as small as my S100 (minus lens) and with far greater capability. My S100 still has a place too by the way.

Anyhow so I got the zoom for the $153 (white box) from BigValueInc which I think is a great price, the adaptor from another eBay reseller for $85 (grey box) and ordered the wide angle zoom from Canada (pending). For the quality of what you get, and the EOS M sale (selling it at cost as far as I can tell) this is well worth it.

I consider it as doubling the capabilities of my existing DSLR kit for not a lot of money. My fisheye zoom doesn't get a lot of time on the DSLR but it's getting a lot of stick time on the M as I've always preferred crop sensors for zooms.

EOS-M / Digital Rev quick 2.0.2 autofocus speed test
« on: July 14, 2013, 09:27:06 AM »
How Quick: Canon EOS M Autofocus (Firmware 2.0.2.) Small | Large

Olympus is the fastest at .17s

Canon & Fuji X100S are next at .4s

In their test Canon behaved oddly by the camera would think it was focused when it wasn't - only on tripod. They used the 22mm lens without IS so I don't know what happened there.

Darn. 10.8.4 only here too and I just got the GPS. Haven't tried installing the GPS yet, I'll see.

Lenses / Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« on: July 12, 2013, 06:25:21 PM »
I was going to say that Canon might be structured where Canon USA is a different organization (with different profit and loss statement and decision chain) than Canon Japan, etc. Apparently that is the case and Canon USA decided not to release the lens, for whatever reason.

Lenses / Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« on: July 12, 2013, 03:57:35 PM »
If this is the case I may not be opening my EOS-M box until I near the end of my return period. between this and the adapter becoming a non-returnable preorder item, I am beginning to question the future of the mirrorless line. I don't want to own a "limited edition" camera not knowing the stability of future support.

That's odd. How do you buy anything? Canon may discontinue any of their stuff tomorrow, in fact they do it all the time. I got a 5DmII that barely supports the new RT flash system, but is missing a number of features (i.e. groups). What about the GPS hotshoe accessory I got for the EOS-M? Nope. Canon refuses to make easy firmware upgrades in an effort to get me to dump the camera and buy a new one. Annoying. At any rate this hardly counts as indicating the line is dead.

Lenses / Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« on: July 12, 2013, 01:09:07 PM »
Notice they say "due to current market conditions". This can mean a lot of things, but to a large company like Canon just having an item out for support and sales means it costs money - a lot of it. The service centers have to be trained and keep parts inventory - just for starters. This costs $$.

My guess is they see NA sales low enough that it's not worth supporting, they mostly just sold them to the Photo sites and rental places. Perhaps this is why they dumped stocks in NA.

Now with the however many new EOS-M's running in the wild in NA it might be a different story - in a year! Big companies run slowly.

The US has a population that is 9x Canada, which is offering the 11-22.  They could only repair/service the lens at 1 site rather than all US sites to save money.  Maybe the Canadians like the M more than Americans and buy more...

You can't run those kinds of calculations. Corporate finances are more complicated than that. Big companies make stupid decisions sometimes, but they try hard not to lose money.

I was just giving an example, there are a lot of reasons that go into these types of decisions and we have no idea what they are. The thing to do is just shrug your shoulders and buy it from Canada if you want. If your worries about repair then get a external warranty.

Lenses / Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« on: July 12, 2013, 12:58:49 PM »
I ordered from Visatek, really want this lens.

Hmmm, so I bought the kit for $299, and spent $85 (grey market adaptor) + $150 (bulk pack zoom) + $300 (GPS + battery + card) + $400 (WA ZOOM).

Only $950 spend on excessories for a $300 camera, hey Canon!

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