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I've been waiting to learn gelling (is that a word?) until a sane gel solution came out, and I've been waiting for an in Flash Canon RF solution. Thankfully the 600-RT gives me both which is why I popped for three the day they released. Now I want to expand this wonderful gel system. The manual indicates that a 3x3 3rd party gel will work fine, but for some reason the flash won't report it correctly so you have to set a C.fn to turn off gel notification (not sure if this is a problem with a pre-2012 body).

Anyhow, should I roll my own gels or wait for somebody to come out with a 600-RT gel kit? If roll my own, any suggestions for a kit to buy? I'd like the CTB's, CTO's, Green, and a handful of Cines maybe. Would rather buy a pre done kit but I don't want to wait too long!

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Film is still hard to beat
« on: May 20, 2012, 12:46:07 AM »
"Film is still hard to beat"--not cost-wise.   ;)
I dunno, I just got my EOS 3 off ebay for $150 shipped.
at $12 a roll of film plus $8 developing, how many rolls do I have to shoot to equal a 5D3 body?

If the roll has 36 exposures then each image costs you 55.55 cents. You've spent $150 on your film body. A 5D3 costs $3499. So you can take around 6000 photos before your costs catch up to that of a 5D3. For a professional, that's not many images, although you won't be as trigger-happy with film as you would be with digital.

I shoot at least 1k photos on a three day vacation, sometimes upwards of 2k. Over the course of a year I shoot at least 10k pictures, I try to do about 100 pics per day. A lot of it is learning, I learn a little bit more (usually) with each shot. But buried in there are some really good pictures (non professional and zero interest in going professional)

When I shot film I'd do a few canisters on a vacation, hate the cost, and miss 99% of the shots I could be taking. No way is film economical, I happily just 'blew' about 300 shots on a  nephews birthday party, and some of them are really good. Never would have done that in film days - never mind the extra goodies like now I can do work in post in a civilized manner (no stinking chemicals in a stupid darkroom)

As far as I'm concerned digital equipment is free. A vacation in film is roughly equal to the cost of a 'L' lens.

I haven't noticed that behavior using a 600 as master.

Are the aftermarket grips made out of magnesium alloy?

I can't find it now, but I seem to recall the the Canon grips have an alloy exoskeleton like the cameras.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Film is still hard to beat
« on: May 18, 2012, 08:47:12 AM »
I gave up film long ago because of the cost - never going back. I can buy a new lens in what it would cost in film and development to shoot a vacation, never mind the time and hassle factor.

Your images are nice, and they're just being transmitted over the web, but I don't see anything special that can't be done in digital. If anything what I notice is that film blobby/softie look, I'm glad I don't have to take shots like that anymore.

The wait has allowed me to reconsider the purchase. The full flash isn't all that much more, and it gives me focus assist lights and an on camera bounce/fill flash. Don't know ...

I've heard some reports of people getting them, and some scattered outlets have gotten a few, but I'm still waiting for mine. An order in at Amazon and B&H since they were announced and still nuthin.

PowerShot Cameras / Re: Typical Small Camera Question
« on: May 15, 2012, 10:44:32 PM »
I've had a S100 for month or two now and it's my most used camera, I also have a Fuji X10, 5DMKII (fully decked out including a trio of 600RT flashes), G12 and a Canon cheap P&S.

The S100 is always with me, actually gives a decent DOF, has a really good flash system, takes RAW, makes intuitive sense to a long time DSLR/SLR user, takes really good pictures, has GPS and has a simple menu system that is quick, intuitive and easy to use. I have a cheap Amazon Basics case and the camera is always on my belt, I'm constantly getting shots and little movie clips with it because its always with me, that I never got before. Every day I'm getting at least a few pictures because of this camera, whereas before it was mostly weekend warrior.

The 5DMKII with all of it's glass takes better pictures technically, but I also get more screw ups because there is so much more under my control. I use it far less too because it's big and bulky. Love it (the pictures) - hate it (the size).

The G12 is too big and complex for a small camera/P&S, and not good enough to qualify as a real camera. Sort of the worst of both worlds? I'm not interested in the G1X - better sensor but even bigger.

The Fuji X10 is a love hate. Neat camera - sucky firmware and I'm constantly missing focus. You have to go really slow and make sure you have your shot before taking it. Great panoramas though.

The S100 shots aren't anywhere as good when 100% cropped on my big monitor, but boy do I take a lot of pictures with that camera.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Sooner than Expected? [CR1]
« on: May 11, 2012, 11:15:42 PM »
I'm pretty sure they have a design ready, its likely more a matter of setting up a factory, tooling, etc for high volume production.

Probably not, engineering companies rarely invest anything in a new product until they intend to produce it. Everything costs money, marketing, R&D especially, and the R&D required for a production line (test, tooling, production bugs) Including prototype runs and R&D investment I could easily see a 4-10 million dollar investment for a new line like this.

I wonder what they would do - a new lens line surely, metal bodies and styling like the S100?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: The 5D Mark III Fix
« on: May 03, 2012, 07:30:32 AM »
As an engineer I have to say that your response is mind numbingly idiotic. Adhesive used around electronics doesn't disolve and magically find electrical contacts to disrupt - in fact adhesive designed for electronics like the type they likely used doesn't even conduct electricity. Furthermore electronics adhesive is insanely durable. There are different sorts of electronics adhesive but in many designs they actually use the adhesive to hold the parts together in favor of metal screws. Read that again, they use the adhesive instead of screws made of hardened metal because it is more durable. The life expectancy of most electronics adhesive is 20-50 years... when directly exposed to the elements 24/7.

As an engineer I agree, that stuff is crazy tough. Additionally, I happen to have rolls of Red engineering electrical tape. Notice that folks, RED - nicely color coordinated with your L lenses.

I'll take replacement tape orders, only $499 per body, prepaid.

(I can already hear it now "but won't that throw off your white balance?")

EOS Bodies / Re: Evolution towards video - away from stills?
« on: May 01, 2012, 04:12:30 PM »
Decent video is much harder to do then stills. Blurry cam, audio, etc, and plus you can grok a picture in a second but you have to sit through a video. While video will become much more important I think for most people that the pie will still divide between stills and vid.

Not a lot of people use light meters anymore since we have them built into our cameras. I guess the answer is up to Sekonic.

Really?  What camera has a built in light meter?

Most cameras have evaluative meters, and you can see a histogram on the back of the camera, but it is far from a light meter.

Yeah yeah I know ...  :)

I have a trio of 600RTs and am waiting for for the ST-E3-RT. Those 600's are truly the bomb, best flashes I've ever used.

Not a lot of people use light meters anymore since we have them built into our cameras. I guess the answer is up to Sekonic.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Combining it possible?
« on: April 30, 2012, 07:57:50 AM »
Link seems to be broken, but do you think 4 smaller sensors would be significantly cheaper than a 35mm sensor?

Technically it may be a little cheaper for the sensors themselves, production costs and yields tend to go up a fair degree with increasing die size, however that would be offset by increased costs of the sensor read electronics and assembly costs.

How do you know this? I work in the semiconductor test industry, and while I don't know for sure I believe that cost of producing larger IC's goes up way faster than producing more smaller. Consider a CPU board which has many small IC's that you can buy for $100. If all those were combined into one SOIC it would cost a fortune.

I believe this technique of combining smaller chips is used in very large sensors for scientific applications (astronomy mostly). Knowing nothing about it, I would guess the problem is that you would need to have the FOV's overlap by 'tipping' the sensors relative to each other, which would seem to work when you're always focused at infinity (astronomy) and not so well when you're taking a picture at near field. Don't know.

Street & City / When did photography become a crime?
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:09:49 PM »
In the vein of the thread here on brits and cameras ... I was walking along my street the other day, and somebody stopped and pointedly asked "why was I taking pictures of their houses". Recently I've been taking pictures of my kids school. We're not going to be there much longer and I want pictures of it (and am always trying to practice), and a policeman came by my door because the school is freaked that some guy is taking pictures.

What are these people trying to accomplish? Somehow harassing photographers will make them safer? In an age when cameras are on every bodies phone (ironically at the school somebody took a picture of me - taking pictures), the govt. has cameras everywhere including the sky, along with corporations and businesses. Suppose I'm a criminal - what will walking around obviously taking pictures do for me? I'll photoshop them, ignoring the billions of free photos of people available on the web? Seems rather stupid, and takes focus away from the real crimes that you never see.

I think we should put a stop to this right now, and all of us go out and take photos in public, at schools, in churches and in safe neighborhoods. Time to desensitize people from thinking that photography is a crime.

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