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Tally up the recent blows to Canon on 3 major projects

1) Nikon D800 is better than the 5D3 in almost all aspects, even video.
2) Very overpriced Canon Cinema division got destroyed at NAB by Black Magic and Sony who stole all the buzz.
3) Now Tamron fills the I.S. niche that #1 feature in the 24-70 that Canon customers were begging and pleading for, but Canon failed to deliver.


so i guess Canon will shut down and exits the camera, lenses and video to focus on printers soon...lol

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Good photographers can somewhat compensate using HDR techniques, but the facts don't change that 5D Mark III has much lower DR than the competition.

I don't know why people are saying only landscape needs high dr - as soon as I'm shooting an animal with black & white fur or trying to raise the shadows I'm always wishing for more dr no matter what the scene is.

Canon raw files are said to have more potential for highlight recovery than Nikon, and while I cannot make the comparison myself Lightroom is certainly able to recover a lot with ettr images without using hdr - but it's annoying to to this with every second shot.

just because landscape photographer doesnt need a very reactive af/camera like the 5dmk3, but are more interested in DR/resolution of the sensor.

yes it seems canon in test has and edge in highlight parts of pictures, but maybe wsiht acreful underspose you can get better overall results with the d800 sensor; someone would try with both sensors

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@kriptikracing

get an all-around zoom to start; better to get a fast one like a 17-5x f/2.8 stabilized

+1....but budget is an issue here
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i would buy a sigma 17-50 os because i like the brand (and also a risky life in AF), but he can get also a used 17-55 canon if he is patient.

maybe for him is better 17-85 is that's very cheap (i know 15-85 is a better lens but the price is quite high ) and a fast prime for indoor shooting, thern he could resell them a buy somthign that will feed better his style of sthooting.

lenses are not like a smartphone or other consumer electronic products that loose their value in very short time

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L [CR2]
« on: June 17, 2012, 01:36:16 PM »
and it's beaten by tokina and sigma latest wide angle aps-c zooms...so sigma and tokina are better than canon and nikon in order to deliver aps-c wide zooms?

That's not my point. I am trying to repudiate the common belief that Canon is incapable of producing decent wide angle lenses.

yes i know you didnt want to say that...i tried to advance one or two step further reasons of your, in my bad english (sorry but i am italian and i am not talented for foreign languages)

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Lenses / Re: List of rumored lenses
« on: June 17, 2012, 05:41:40 AM »
I'm hoping for something in that 10/14-24 range also...to fill in that bottom end gap.  There is the 16-35, but doesn't fit in as nice. ;)

16-35 on ff is as wide as the much praised 10-22 ef-s thing

True.  Canon needs their own 'Holy Trinity'. ;)

holy trinity.... :D

i have some nikon friends that use this

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L [CR2]
« on: June 17, 2012, 04:57:39 AM »

The fact that Canon EF-S 10-22 beats the c**p out of Nikon DX 10-24 gives us some hope that Canon will be able to pull off some magic with this rumored 14-24. Canon's EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 and recent EF 24-70 f/2.8 II further prove they are capable of great things.

The only issue as far as I can tell is cost. :)

and it's beaten by tokina and sigma latest wide angle aps-c zooms...so sigma and tokina are better than canon and nikon in order to deliver aps-c wide zooms? dont think so; it depens which are specs/target price they want to deliver to market.

when they wanted to deliver a superior 70-200 they did, i amconfident they are doing with the new 24-70 and maybe they will do with a fast wide angle zoom...of course the superior quality comes at a PRICE, but this is true for every manufacturer

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All junks

lol… oh gosh, and someone said i am a canon troll :D
i hope you are kidding

@kriptikracing

get an all-around zoom to start; better to get a fast one like a 17-5x f/2.8 stabilized

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we call a joke because we were very disappointed when it come out, really a step back from 50D

buying 2day it's really foolish for someone that is staring with photography, infact
all advantage except ergonomics over the rebel line are gone, and at the same price you can buy a nikon D7000 (slightly more expensive) or a pentax K5 (less expensive)

LOL...you gotta be kidding right? pentax??? What are you going to do with lenses??? Let me guess, Tamron and Sigma  ;D ;D ;D

and pentax for sure...tokina lenses pratically...so?

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Lenses / Re: Looking for reviews of the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8
« on: June 16, 2012, 01:36:38 AM »
I realize there are two versions of this lens (with and without image stabilization),  so thoughts on either would be appreciated.  To begin with, are Tamron lenses any good?  I see they are much less expensive that Canon or Nikon, or even Sigma ...  That usually does not bode well.

Thanks,
Mark L.

no VC
http://www.lenstip.com/index.html?test=obiektywu&test_ob=18
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/289-tamron-af-17-50mm-f28-sp-xr-di-ii-ld-aspherical-if-canon-test-report--review

VC
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/482-tamron_1750_28vc_canon

the build quality of the lenes isnt at the top, but they shoot good photo like others.

i would prefere the sigma 17-50 os

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well the co9mparison between 5dmk3 and d800 is a non-sense. the 5d is better in several areas than d800, the 60D is worst than k5/d7000 in everything (except lens selection, but this is not a feature of the camera)

... I don't think a 5d3/d800 discussion refresh is necessary, but to stay on topic while outclassed by the d7000 the 60d runs magic lantern while Nikon doesn't have any 3rd party firmware add-ons - this was the decisive reason back when I decided to go the Canon path.

magic lanter runs in my 50D also, but i never installed; it's not a canon product, it's something that you use at your own risk

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well the co9mparison between 5dmk3 and d800 is a non-sense. the 5d is better in several areas than d800, the 60D is worst than k5/d7000 in everything (except lens selection, but this is not a feature of the camera)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DIII the New 50D?
« on: June 15, 2012, 05:50:00 AM »
with 300€ i can buy cigarettes for 40 days ;)

Why do you think I've given up smoking? It's a great incentive -just put the money you would have spent into your gear fund!  :)

yes you are right, but i am too weak ;)

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we call a joke because we were very disappointed when it come out, really a step back from 50D

buying 2day it's really foolish for someone that is staring with photography, infact
all advantage except ergonomics over the rebel line are gone, and at the same price you can buy a nikon D7000 (slightly more expensive) or a pentax K5 (less expensive)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DIII the New 50D?
« on: June 14, 2012, 05:45:27 PM »
the 5dmk3 costs a lot as the nikon D800...do you think $3000 (€2900) are a gift compared to $3500 (€3200).

both cameras are really expensive and both manufactors listened to their customers

500$ could buy be more RAM to run lightroom 4,A copy of Lightroom 4 to go with my 5D3, and Windows 7 Pro to run my new workflow. 500$ is a big deal because new camera can change workflows and workflows cost more $$$.

i am not saying there isnt a gap in price, i am saying they are both expensive…here in italy the gap is narrower, but i think those hardware are for pro photographers and maybe for some amateurs not mass market for sure
.
with 300€ i can buy cigarettes for 40 days ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DIII the New 50D?
« on: June 14, 2012, 05:13:26 PM »
the 5dmk3 costs a lot as the nikon D800...do you think $3000 (€2900) are a gift compared to $3500 (€3200).

both cameras are really expensive and both manufactors listened to their customers

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