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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 09:31:42 AM »
And yet...not surprisingly, the SL1, T3i, and T3 are all outselling the D3200 and D3100 on Amazon - so maybe Nikon should be embarrassed?  Pentax and Sony?  LOL.  Judging by their sales rankings, consumers don't find them interesting at all.  No Sony cameras in Amazon's Top 30 dSLRs.  Speaking of 'dated', there is a Pentax at #29...but it's not the 'considerably better' K500, but rather the K-1000...I guess it's a good thing you can buy the film (!) for it on Amazon, too.
The "bigger marketshare = better than" argument is pretty lame. 

Seriously, anytime you feel like hauling out the "but Canon sells more!" argument ask yourself if Budweiser really is the best beer in America.

I didn't say 'technically superior', did I?  In the case of the T3, it's most likely 'cheaper than.'  And with apologies to any Bud drinkers out there, I prefer beers I can't see through.

But the point of the argument isn't which camera or beer you or I think is better, it's which camera or beer the majority of people choose for themselves.  Look around your house - how many things do you see that, when you bought them, you thought 'this isn't the best product for me, but I'm going to buy it anyway'?  Something may be better for you because it's cheaper, because your friends have one so you can ask them about it, because it has some feature that you particularly want, because it was available at the store you were shopping in, or a myriad of other reasons...but I'd argue the vast majority of time, when people make buying choices for non-necessary items, they're choosing what they believe is best for them.

"Best" is arbitrary and highly subjective...we define it for ourselves based on our own needs.  "Most popular based on sales volume" is objective, and happens because a majority of those subjectively defining 'best for them' as that particular brand.  In the case of beer, that's Budweiser...and for dSLRs, that's Canon.

Neuro, do you know if it is possible to obtain from Amazon, or from some other store, relative selling numbers? I assume retailers will not tell us how many cameras they sold last year, but maybe we can get them to tell us proportions (e.g., three 5D3 for every D800).
Maybe that lovely lady from Adorama (unfortunately I forgot her name) can tell us something like that.
I guess we could then have a better idea about market share.
Cheers,
Daniel

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hybrid Viewfinder Coming To Canon DSLRs? [CR1]
« on: January 15, 2014, 06:07:13 PM »
If the current 7D suddenly had the 5D3's AF, would people be all over it again?

I would definitely buy one!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hybrid Viewfinder Coming To Canon DSLRs? [CR1]
« on: January 15, 2014, 05:36:20 PM »
"I am aware, from reading previous discussions here, that the crop factor is not a huge advantage (if at all),"

Dan, if the 1.6 factor helps you to fill the frame and you can't otherwise, then it is an advantage that you can't make up by cropping FF.  I believe jrista has explained this in other threads.  The huge downside of crop is the smaller pixels that result in poor high-ISO performance.  If you have 24 MP in a crop, the resolution should be pretty impressive, assuming top of the line lenses (advantage goes away as FF gets more MP).

Jack

I read jrista's comments about it a while ago, and to be honest I had a conclusion in my mind that, in the end, one could achieve similar results when cropping FF. Have I misunderstood? Maybe it was exactly that, pixel density was counterbalanced by cleaner image, and in the end there was no clear advantage for crop. I am not sure anymore, though, and if you are, well, I guess I had better believe you... :)
Question: Is it better to shoot with a crop camera than with a FF + teleconverter?
Anyway, other than that, I am not sure it will be worth buying a 7D2 because a 5D3 will be costing (am I wrong?) nearly the same at the time. We keep praying for 5D3-like AF, 5D3-like IQ etc... Well, if the price is similar, then I see no advantage of the new 7D2 except for when the extra reach is important (not my case).
(Sorry if it was waaaay off-topic.)
Thank you for answering, Jack!
Daniel

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hybrid Viewfinder Coming To Canon DSLRs? [CR1]
« on: January 15, 2014, 03:25:09 PM »
It's looking more and more like I am going to be investing my money in a 5D III.

I just wrote this (below) in another thread.
5D3 + Daniel is looking like a likely couple to me. :)

*****
Something just occurred to me now... How likely is it that a new 7D will have many advantages over the current 5D3?
Possible advantages I see (sure many debatable):
- Crop factor for birding, wildlife and sports
- Compatibility with EF-S lenses
- Built-in flash
- Higher burst rate and bigger buffer
- Price
Is that it? I am aware, from reading previous discussions here, that the crop factor is not a huge advantage (if at all), and compatibility with EF-S lenses is probably not relevant. The built-in flash may not even come with the new 7D anymore, and some people even dislike it. Burst rate, well, here I see a difference, but it is not important to me (I understand other folks may need it, though).
Anyway, when the 7D2 finally arrives costing US$ 2,000-2,200 body only (more? less?), how much will a 5D3 be costing? I have just found prices under 2,900 on canonpricewatch.com, and rythercamera.com has the 5D3 for 2,499 right now. Even Canon sells it refurbished for under 2,800.
What do you guys think? Will the 7D2 be worth buying when the price of the 5D3 drops even further? I am not so sure anymore.
Cheers
Daniel

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Replacement Coming for CP+? [CR1]
« on: January 15, 2014, 10:16:35 AM »
Something just occurred to me now... How likely is it that a new 7D will have many advantages over the current 5D3?
Possible advantages I see (sure many debatable):
- Crop factor for birding, wildlife and sports
- Compatibility with EF-S lenses
- Built-in flash
- Higher burst rate and bigger buffer
- Price
Is that it? I am aware, from reading previous discussions here, that the crop factor is not a huge advantage (if at all), and compatibility with EF-S lenses is probably not relevant. The built-in flash may not even come with the new 7D anymore, and some people even dislike it. Burst rate, well, here I see a difference, but it is not important to me (I understand other folks may need it, though).
Anyway, when the 7D2 finally arrives costing US$ 2,000-2,200 body only (more? less?), how much will a 5D3 be costing? I have just found prices under 2,900 on canonpricewatch.com, and rythercamera.com has the 5D3 for 2,499 right now. Even Canon sells it refurbished for under 2,800.
What do you guys think? Will the 7D2 be worth buying when the price of the 5D3 drops even further? I am not so sure anymore.
Cheers
Daniel

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New Rebel for CP+? [CR1]
« on: January 15, 2014, 09:42:36 AM »
I almost bought the Canon Rebel t2i over my 50D. Rebel is nothing to sneeze at. It's a damn fine camera. Any Canon DSLR. I was at Best Buy the other day and playing with their SL1.  I would love one of those little guys!

Oh not at all, the rebels are fine cameras, no ones sneezing at them or anywhere near them it's just the way that they are "upgraded" is very humdrum and not worth getting excited about! We'd rather hear about a 7D replacement than a new rebel. Just more curious about the higher end specs.

I started out with a t2i myself. Gave it to my GF to use when upgraded. Still work flawlessly after years of service. I have nothing but respect for my humble rebel. I learned a lot from it. I actually get annoyed when people under use it or never use anything other than the kit lens. It's so cheap that almost every ones got one. Trouble is they don't all get the most of this amazing machine! Shame really as it can take stunning pics. That's how I feel about the EOS M too. I reckon in the right hands it can do wonders.

Those are really good cameras when in the right hands, indeed. I just feel they are a little too small for my hands. To be honest, I fail to see much advantage in the reduced size of the SL1, since it will not fit in a pocket anyway.
Daniel

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New Rebel for CP+? [CR1]
« on: January 14, 2014, 03:50:03 PM »
yeah... the rebels are usually announced around february-march

And when are 7Ds announced? :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II on Cameraegg
« on: January 14, 2014, 12:26:14 PM »
The real worry is keeping a customer from choosing another brand and that provides a much stronger incentive for Canon to offer as much as possible in it various models.

Exactly what I think. You impose too many restrictions and people will look for some other manufacturer who does not.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Replacement Coming for CP+? [CR1]
« on: January 14, 2014, 09:34:05 AM »
Long time lurker here, first time poster...
I'd add to jrista's observations that the implementation of CFast here is probably not for burst rates anymore, but more for video.  As a current 7D owner, and a user of MagicLantern (or whatever it is now... TragicLantern maybe?), the card write speeds are far too slow for RAW video and generally pretty iffy for higher-bitrate H.264, so any card write speed improvements would probably be for video, not photos.  Even the 1DX has a buffer that will eventually fill up, and if Canon would try to design any camera to be able to sustain a burst, I'd expect them to work on the 1D series.  I certainly wouldn't say no to a sustained burst on a new 7D though!

I think you need to start posting, as you seem to know what you are talking about.  We can all benefit from your knowledge.

I agree!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon Answer the D4s? [CR2]
« on: January 13, 2014, 02:41:57 PM »
It isn't a panacea, and as I said in my reply a few days ago, I use it along with many other techniques. The key is to capture the information at the highest quality you can, then find the best way to present that information.

My top three methods for interiors with problematic exterior light levels are; 1, bring the light up in the room with strobes, this can look ok if the room is smaller and the architectural lighting is not a key element to the actual space. 2, layer mask in PS. 3, PS 32bit.

I often end up using a combination of all three but will bracket the hell out of the scene to guarantee I have all the information in front of me.

On one thread about HDR techniques many months ago I wrote about all the different kinds of blending, HDR, etc techniques and posted a same image comparison, but it is one of many hundreds of my posts that disappeared for no known reason. It was funny, the thread was basically about Photomatix and how horrible it was, yet my Photomatix HDR rendition, not the blend, was very popular and showed none of the comedy HDR look we are all so familiar with. Photomatix is an extremely powerful program and has recently been updated, skilful use of it can make remarkably subtle images now.

This again highlights another aspect of forum anxiety, I regularly shoot in situations where I am severely low iso DR limited, not just by my Canon's DR range even the mighty D800 wouldn't help much, because of that I have fully explored all the techniques available to mitigate that and am aware of how to work around it. Meanwhile other posters are adamant there is no DR "issue". However, I am not placing myself on a higher plane, I am a noise nazi, can't stand it, as far as I am concerned even a 7D at base is too noisy, but only because I haven't fully explored every noise reduction technique to satisfy myself, because it is not a priority for me. For the birders out there who have to shoot at >800iso they do prioritise that technique so don't understand my frustration at low levels of noise. Yes I have Topaz etc, but you can't know everything about every technique, and as far as end result, what is acceptable to one person might not be to another.

Well, there can most definitely be DR issues in many kinds of scenes. Photographing interiors is probably the best way to exacerbate dynamic range to the ultimate limits. If that's what you do, you should be screaming for Canon to reduce read noise to less than 1e-, and demand full 16-bit output with 20 stops of DR. :P

As for the 7D, by todays standards, there isn't any question it's a noisy little bugger. It's sweet spot is ISO 400-1600, it does rather poorly at ISO 100 and pretty badly at ISO 3200. It isn't TERRIBLY far behind modern APS-C cameras, however it really lags pretty far behind modern FF cameras. Between the 7D and 5D III or 6D, the difference in noise is so massive, it's almost painful. Part of that is due to the 7D having smaller pixels, part of it has to do with the strong AA filter (softer detail is more prone to being perceptually noisier, vs. sharper detail with is perceived as less noisy, even when they technically have the same amounts of noise)...however the 7D's pixels seem to have a particularly low full well capacity. At 4.3┬Ám the FWC is 20187e-, where as the 70D with even smaller pixels has a FWC of 26726e-. The difference in Q.E. is a mere 4%, where as the difference in full well capacity is 32%! I am not sure what Canon did with the 70D sensor, but they have clearly made some fairly significant advancements with their sensor fabrication as far as efficiently utilizing the minimal amount of space they have. I would love to see ChipWorks break down the 70D sensor design...a die shrink to 180nm from 500nm could account for the necessary increase in surface area to support a higher FWC.

Even more impressive is the D7100, which as a FWC of 29236e- for pixels that are even smaller than the 70D. Again, the difference in Q.E. is relatively small, 11%, but the difference in charge capacity is huge, 45%! Canon's 18mp APS-C sensor simply wasn't really a thing of wonder...never really has been. It's surprising it's survived as long as it has in as many cameras as it has, given it's rather lackluster low-level specs. I am hoping the 70D sensor becomes the new standard for low end DSLRs and the EOS-M. I also sincerely hope the 7D II gets a sensor with a FWC in the 30,000e- range at 24mp...that would help immensely with the noise issues.

Another brilliant post, jrista!
Learning a lot from you, neuro, Mt Spokane and others. Thank you all.
Daniel

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II on Cameraegg
« on: January 13, 2014, 11:02:32 AM »
I got tired of waiting for the 7DII to upgrade my 60D. So I just got the 5DIII. If the 7DII shoots 10fps, 61 point AF and has thr same sensor as the 70D. I would be tempted to get one. Because I cant afford the 1DX.

Well, I will keep on waiting... :)
Good luck with the 5D3!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II on Cameraegg
« on: January 12, 2014, 11:56:09 AM »
My crystal ball says it will use the same sensor as the 70D.

Hopefully you couldn't see right because your crystal ball lacks enough dynamic range. :)

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I understand the OP wants to know how many of us jumped ship when "superior technology" became available from the other brand, and chose for comparison the 5D2 and the D800. I also understand it is his opinion that the D800 is superior to Canon's products available today as the 5D2 was to Nikon's at the time; otherwise, a comparison would make no sense.
So, I believe the question he wants answered here is how likely we (CR folks, big bias) are to jump ship when competition is clearly better, or if we prefer to stick to what we already have anyway.
(It seems likely to me people will disagree with the cameras chosen for such comparison, though.)
Cheers,
Daniel

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Software & Accessories / Re: Smugmug, Flickr, 500px etc
« on: January 10, 2014, 02:25:29 PM »
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I've been using Smugmug for several years now. While I have minor dissatisfactions with them, they are adequate. I pay a reasonable price for a service level that gives me what I need.

Many more professional photographers I've seen lately seem to be using Zenfolio. I'd probably try them if I were not so lazy.

I abandoned Flickr when they did their "graphic" redesign. Now all your pictures look like they have been dumped into a blender. I still visit once in a while for the comments in groups -- you can find some good insight into particular bodies, lenses, etc. from people who are actually using them.

I tried 500px briefly, but they're too social oriented. It's all about campaigning to have members vote for your pictures. I quickly grew weary of all the needy pleas to "like my picture!"

I will give Zenfolio a try, then.
Thanks!

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Software & Accessories / Re: Smugmug, Flickr, 500px etc
« on: January 10, 2014, 02:23:46 PM »
(...) but the interface and ability to truly customize is tedious and really cumbersome. (...)

Thank you for answering!
Do these problems persist despite the recent "upgrade"?

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