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Lenses / Re: 70-200 f2.8 IS (Ver 1) used or 70-300 F4-5.6 IS L New
« on: September 18, 2013, 08:58:01 AM »
70-300L works really well outdoors, but if you go that route, then you might want to supplement it with a 85 f/1.8 or 100 f/2 or 135L for portraiture/indoor usage.

When buying used, check the corner for equal sharpness (centering), IS on/off if has IS, clean glass, etc.  Shoot it open and stopped down.  Do the rings work well, etc.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Back button and focus points 5diii
« on: September 18, 2013, 07:37:27 AM »
I don't focus/recompose unless I have to (subject is beyond the outer points).  For stills, I enable spot focusing and use a single point.

Lenses / Re: the future of 1.2 L lenses ?
« on: September 17, 2013, 03:03:23 PM »
The problem is, the best autofocus available is only going to do so much with such shallow depth of field.  If we were talking a supertelephoto lens at a daytime sporting event, then yes the 5D3 would very much be the better camera.  But for these slow AF portrait lenses, there's not that much advantage to having those 60 AF points.  One or more of them might pick something you don't want it to focus on...so if you're going to limit the points in use, on a stationary or slow moving subject (person)...then there isn't really an AF advantage with the 5D3, in my opinion.  Indeed there might be a disadvantage in very low light...and certainly there is no significant image quality advantage at low ISO, and really none at all at higher ISO.

He would be better off at least buying a 6D as his "second" camera, rather than worrying about f/1.2L lens obsolescence on his existing and highly compromised-IQ crop bodies...using them as his second body(s).  This whole thread is rather silly (L lens obsolescence).

Yes, I loved getting the ear or nose in focus when using the 5D II's outer points with fast glass when aimed at the eye, or relying on spray and pray for a still object.

The 5D III gives you more freedom in composing the image because the camera still autofocuses accurately using outer points.  And AI servo is useable with the outer points as well which makes it much easier photographying young kids whose "sitting still" is not still.

Lenses / Re: the future of 1.2 L lenses ?
« on: September 17, 2013, 12:38:56 PM »
Do your homework and buy refurbished/used/new with rebate at a good price.  You can't control when new versions of lenses will come out or their prices (most likely higher) but you can control how much you would lose.  And if you lose $100 or less on buying/selling a lens, then it's well within the amount that it'd cost to rent it for a week, which isn't bad at all.

Software & Accessories / Re: Yet another storage thread
« on: September 17, 2013, 12:13:45 PM »
I use a combination of shelves and cases.  I like using Gura Gear's Et Cetera cases for flashes and accessories.  Lenses and camera split between a large camera bag and shelves within an armoir.

And yes, I am thinking about getting a gun safe down the road.  Something heavy and bolted to the concrete floor.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: I jumped ship...
« on: September 11, 2013, 02:26:56 PM »
I did recently jump on the tamron boat with the so-far superb 24-70 VC. Which it seems like I've been holding out forever on a 24-70 zoom but at 800$ on Craigslist. Why not?

How does the Tamron work with outer points in servo?

Lenses / Re: Did I get a bad copy of the EF-S 17-55 f2.8?
« on: September 10, 2013, 11:47:45 PM »
The 17-55 has been AFMAed, right?

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: New iPhone: Final Nail in the Coffin
« on: September 10, 2013, 03:59:26 PM »
I've never had an iPhone but I do use the wife's iPad, and it's too slow for sports and too noisy for indoor/low light situations.  My cell phone is about as dumb as can be -- no data, no internet, no text; just use it as a phone.  Am I in the minority?  Absolutely.

P&S sales will continue to go down until the smart phones saturate the market, but they'll still sell in the hundreds of thousands/millions.  The problem with cell phones is that they are size limited.  They are expected to fit in pockets (at least for guys), and they still need to provide all the other functions expected of them.  P&Ss can be larger, and can use better lenses, larger sensors to their advantage.  Perhaps whatever replaced the CMOS sensors will be able to make smaller sensors as good as FF today, but until those disruptive technologies arrive, we're stuck with incremental improvement.

A lot of friends use the phone as the primary camera already, but the quality of the pictures taken are not very good and they don't back up the data.  So, what happens if the phone is lost/damaged/stolen?  They get a new one, but they've lost everything.  There goes a few years of pictures.  Maybe they can get some reduced sized versions from Facebook or whichever app they use, but those often aren't high enough resolution to print.  And when those companies go out of business or change their model, there is no guarantee that those images would be preserved.

Photography is a mostly a hobby for me, and I do it to preserve memories.  I might have a dozen pics of my grandparents, and a few dozen of my parents before they got married, and a few hundred of them since then.  Now that I've had kids, I've snapped thousands of pictures.  We take the best ones to create digital scrapbooks (easier to duplicate if the kids want their own copies later), and then print them.  My kids are young, but they've already forgotten a lot and they get a kick from looking at the scrapbooks, which jog our memories and get the conversations going.  Those conversations don't happen looking at an iPad.  Quite a few friends have remarked how they wished they had scrapbooks/photo calendars like that, but they don't have the pictures to make it worthwhile.  When film was king, everyone developed their rolls and got prints.  Those prints usually were stored in shoeboxes in closets, under the bed, etc. but people still had them.  What will people have to show the next generation?

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: About to drop some $$$ again...lol
« on: September 10, 2013, 02:55:41 PM »
Or pick up the 24L and the 100 non-L macro, if your budget can stretch a little.  $150 for a rental would make a significant chunk of the price 100 macro, especially if you can get it used.  Then upgrade to the 100L later, if you think it'll improve your product.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: About to drop some $$$ again...lol
« on: September 10, 2013, 12:43:53 PM »
I would think the 24L would be a better fit, so I'd get that one first.  After all, how many people buy large pictures of rings?  It might make it in a wedding album, but I don't see friends ordering large pics of rings.  People pics...  yes!  It'll take a while to make the best use of the 24L, but that is part of the fun!

Canon General / Re: 70D or 70-300L
« on: September 10, 2013, 09:20:17 AM »
How about a 70D and an extender?

EOS-M / Re: EOS-M or New EF lens?
« on: September 09, 2013, 05:01:45 PM »
$400?  Are you kidding?

This is Canon we're talking about...  ;D

Unless of course we're assuming launch disaster mkII

Give it 2 years.  Consumer models are updated much more frequently, even if they don't bring much additional functionality (i.e. T5i vs. T4i).

EOS-M / Re: EOS-M or New EF lens?
« on: September 09, 2013, 03:51:12 PM »
I say be patient.... There is a strong rumor that canon will announce a pair of eos-m cameras sometime in September, one low end and one high end... If the high end one has the dual pixel technology of the 70D, this would make a VERY capable Eos-M camera as it should address almost all of the complaints of the original EOS-M.

Might take a while for the price to drop to 400 tho...

Yes, it will have the X problem, when wide enough lenses are used (i.e. 24mm) and if you push the filter hard enough.  I have a Schneider 77mm VND (parent company of B+W), and I can get 8+ stops out of it at telephoto ranges.  The X problem also limits how much of filter you can use.  I get about 2 stops at 24mm, about 3 at 35mm but I can get 8 stops at 70mm before the X appears.

EOS-M / Re: EOS-M or New EF lens?
« on: September 09, 2013, 11:01:41 AM »
- AF is fine for stills but not good in servo because it is slow.
- Battery life is worse because the battery is smaller and it is driving the screen all the time, but that is a general disadvantage for this class of cameras.  You could always get extra batteries.
- I don't think the screen could be turned off, and I don't see why you'd want to.  There aren't many physical controls, and the touch screen is a great way to change the settings.
- It's OK in low light conditions, about what you'd expect for a Canon APS-C camera.  The 22 f/2 helps a lot because you can use it wide open to minimize the ISO, which degrades the image.

In general, I don't see the M replacing a DSLR.  It's a nice travel option because of its size, but it has signficant limitations.

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