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Lenses / Re: Recommendations for vacation lenses and gear
« on: June 16, 2012, 10:44:41 PM »
I hear you.  I'm fortunate in that my wife has become reasonably tolerant of my bringing gear on family outings and trips (case in point, an all-ages outdoor jazz concert last evening, I brought the gripped 5DII, 35L, and 70-200/2.8 IS II, and the S100).

Some tips:

  • Use a Blackrapid strap - having your hands free and the camera at you side/lower back makes it less obtrusive, but still very quickly accessible
  • Insure your gear - that's not just about protection from theft, it's also piece of mind. Knowing my cameras and lenses are covered means I am comfortable treating them like the tools they are, so I can pay attention to family instead of gear.
  • Don't chimp - bring lots of memory cards, use high speed continuous shooting. When you take a shot, AF and fire a 2-3 shot burst, then AF again and fire another short burst, then let the camera hang from the strap.  More work to triage images later, but that's when you'll have time, and the pair of bursts means a keeper is very likely.

The 70-200/4 IS would be great for Sea World, pretty good for the Safari Park (if you have time to drive up to Escondido), and ok for the Zoo. The main 'problem' with an f/4 lens at the zoo is it's usually not wide enough to fully blur out the net/wire of the enclosure - try to get the lens as close as possible to the wires.

Thanks. I think I will grab the 70-200 since I could see using it for more than just the vacation. If I desire the 70-200 2.8 mk ii after I can always sell mine and get it then when the weight will not matter. I would rather the 24-70 mk ii to be my first 2.8 zoom though after I finally could cover 24-200mm. Then I can start upgrading. Anyway. My wife wants me to bring it but just not playing with it everywhere we go. I need to learn to balance it. I think if I set up my c1-3 modes correctly and only shoot the photo's I need rather than several pre photo's to judge for iso, shutter, f stop etc. I think that gets old bc I would have taken at least 5-10 shots before we take ours. I think that's what gets old. I am attending a photography session next weekend which will hopefully give me some additional tips on technique. Also I think I will bring a small bridge like the g1x or sony sx100 so I can have some days without it and have fun and at least know I am carrying something reasonable vs a low end powershot. I am excited though because the 5d mark iii will grab some nice images which I do plan on a photo book and want a nice one in front of the Castle at Disney to blow up to 24 x 36 or something large for above the couch in the front room. To give you like a quick glimpse of the atmosphere at Disney. I hope really to capture that the most. One last question. Do you think it would be worth it on my off photography days to walk around with that 40mm pancake since its cheap and light? And where would I get this insurance your talking about? Any suggestions?

Lenses / Re: Recommendations for vacation lenses and gear
« on: June 16, 2012, 07:37:16 PM »
Ok, so this is the third, maybe fourth, thread you've started on this topic.  To be honest (and perhaps a little blunt), this isn't about gear choice...it's about philosophy.  You and your wife need to sit down and discuss 1) what you want to achieve with the pictures from this trip (momentos for a 4x6" album that will remind you of the trip as in 'ahh that gorilla was pretty cool', a coffee table book or 16x20" prints for the family room, precious memories of a once-in-a-lifetime trip, etc.); 2), what quality if images will be 'good enough' for the intended use; and 3) what her tolerance will be for you lugging the gear, changing lenses, and having the camera in front of your face for much of the time.

Once you've made those decisions, then picking gear becomes straightforward, the gear determines the bag, etc.

Just my 2ยข.

I understand. I just am worried I will not be back there for many years and do not want to miss out. If my wife had it her way I would go without a camera. She hates that I fiddle with settings and mount lenses etc. while on vacation. Asking her is not an option or I would and then I understand your point.

Baseline photography needs are:

Disney (24-105 Day) 50mm for night 270exii

san diego zoo and seaworld I know the 24-105 will cover my family shots but I wanted to be able to get some of the rare animals like the Panda's and etc that they do not have by me. I guess I don't have to get them but it would be nice.

We are also visiting family we never see but I figure the 24-105 or my 50mm would cover it.

As far as the beach and rides I guess I can get by with the wifes PS 320hs but I was thinking G1x or Sony RX100 for size to have when I just want to pull a quick candid. If I left out the zoom then I would have no problem with bag choices because I could get a lowepro 102aw and be content or many other similar bags like the tamrac evo 6 also. The concern is the zoom potential and larger bag it would require. I am flying but we will have a rental car the whole trip.

Sorry but my last slr was the 60d and I had lens coverage for all those needs. Now that I went FF I am having a harder time making good lens choices for places I have never been.

Finally thank you for taking the time to try and help me. I truly appreciate it. I am not just posting for nothing but these choices are expensive and I do not want to make them lightly.

Lenses / Re: Recommendations for vacation lenses and gear
« on: June 16, 2012, 11:44:33 AM »
Thanks I will look into that bag.

My question is should I get the 70-200 f4is for the trip? There is a zoo and sea world. I know I will not need it anywhere else but could see a need for it at home when the kids are running around. Just want to spend my money wisely. Also would anyone recommend the canon g1x or upcoming Sony rx100 for a pocketable camera? I had the s100 and was not impressed. Also considering the sx260 and no zoom allowing me to carry a smaller bag like the Lowe pro 102aw or 202aw

Lenses / Recommendations for vacation lenses and gear
« on: June 16, 2012, 01:05:45 AM »
Going with my family to San Diego zoo, sea world, Disneyland,  beach, etc.

I have canon 5d3, 24-105, 50 1.4, 430 ex ii.

Was looking for a good bag choice with easy access.
Also considering 70-200 f4 is can get new for $900. Tempting
40mm pancake for close to 35mm coverage at least at 2.8 and it would be light.
Only considering the 270 ex ii for flash
Possibly g1x for smaller pics and the beach day.

Any help would be appreciated as I am going in about 45 days.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 13, 2012, 11:01:16 PM »
Was in the same boat. Ended up getting a Canon SX 260 HS. Was at Disney last week and it worked great. The IS really helped with roller coaster vid's. Its got a terrific zoom. Fits in pocket pocket for wet rides. Battery is weak but bought (4) knock offs for $13.00 total that worked fine, enough power for the day/night.
I didnt have my 5D3 and L's with me so I wasnt tempted to stray away from the wife and kids to take more detailed shots and wasnt holding them up while I searched for the perfect angle.
Very satisfied with my decision, wife and kids even happier!!!

Is there anyway you could post a pic or two from that trip so I could see the quality. I know it's not dslr but just curious how close. I have been playing with the S100 and it's ok but I have my 5d iii at lovely Canon getting the nice black tape put in it for the light leak issue. I know it's really not a problem but I wanted to get it fixed while under warranty. I have been considering the sx 260hs for the zoom. I have also been considering the 70-200 f4 is because I would use it at home to but just not sure I want to lug around all that gear. I was hoping to hear about a Canon mirrorless offering in time. I would definetly jump on that. I am even considering the G1x. Prices around here are about $639 for it so not too bad considering what your getting. Just not sure how it would work for a vacation like that.

PowerShot / Re: S100 Settings Poll
« on: June 10, 2012, 11:32:11 PM »
Finally got some time to use and play with my S100.  Here is how mine is set up today:

Ring Func. - metering mode (also like drive mode)
Control Ring - custom, M, TV, AV are defaults, P changed to zoom (don't really use P but I think I'll mimic AV mode for times I want a predefined focal length)
C mode - AV pref., AEB (2/3 steps), ISO 100, AWB, evaluative metering, flash off, default AV 5.6, drive single

My Menu
Servo AF
Spot AE Point
AF Frame Size
IS Settings
Safety Shift

RAW only
AF frame size - normal
AF assist beam - on
Servo AF - off
Max ISO - 1600
Spot AE point - AF point
Safety shift - off
IS - shoot only, powered - on
GPS - on, Logger - off

Custom Display
1- shooting info
2 - shooting info, grid lines, histogram

Don't you find the colors off? I just got one today and the seem over saturated. Also not all that impressed with Iq. Was hoping to beat the common power shots but so far not impressed.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 10, 2012, 11:28:27 PM »
Definetly not bringing a 3.7 lb lens on a vacation with kids. I have had a little chance to play with my new s100 but it definitely could not be my only camera on vacation. I think a zoom is in order. Really tempted to think about a t4i with tamron 17-50 2.8 and 70-300mm for the trip and call it a day. I could fit all that in a lowepro 102aw. Also costs quite a bit for a vacation.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 10, 2012, 12:29:35 AM »
I just picked up an S100 so can't wait to see what kind of quality pics I can take with it and how far it will take me without having to break out the dslr every photo op. I am still unsure on the zoom. I am likely to rent the 70-300l and get the flipside 300 or tamrac evo 6. Still not sure.

On another note I have been heavily considering the new t4i with it's kit 18-135mm and the 40mm pancake and just the lowepro 102aw for the trip.

The S100 is a great little camera, IMO an ideal complement to the dSLR.  I took it on rides with the kids - manual control allows lots of creativity (slow shutter shots on the carousel, for example.

Glad to see you leaning to the 70-300L.  ;)  Personally, I'd recommend against the Rebel - it's not nearly as responsive as your 5DIII, and I think when you got home, you'd look over your pictures compared to ones from the 5DIII, and say, "What the @&!$%#* was I thinking?"

Your right at this point I am bringing the 70-? L or nothing else. I think the rebel will be a step backwards. Just not sure if I want to spring the money Or rent.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 08, 2012, 11:48:18 PM »
Shooting with a crop body so its apples and oranges.  For what its worth here is what I took last week on a similar trip:

Yeah but my concern is the weight with two 5 year olds and going to the zoo, sea world, disneyland.
Unless you don't plan to go on rides and such at Disneyland, I would  suggest a nice P&S instead of lots of gear.  Last week at Disneyland was the first time I traveled light with only my S100.  I really loved the freedom and enjoyed the park more (not worrying about getting wet, etc).  Enjoy your kids, when the get big they're a pain in the you know what.  For the Zoo and SW, definitely take your real stuff and a long lens--way better and more photo opportunities there.

Ziploc bag for wet rides
Extra battery, SD card
Lowepro Dublin 20 Slim Profile Pouch

San Diego walk-around setup
Extra batteries, CF card, blower, brush
Lowepro Toploader Pro 70 AW with attached Lowepro Lens Case - 9 x 13cm

San Diego Zoo setup (actually never made it there, a whole another story >:()
70-200 F4 IS
Lens hoods (all 3)
Extra batteries, CF card, blower, brush
Lowepro Flipside 300

... I first need to find a sling bag to hold all that and need to cover the telephoto area without adding a 2.5-3lb lens....

Get the best bag for the job even if it means multiples bags  (my wife recently discovered all my bags and said "I don't want to hear another word about my purses.")   ???

I am down to my body and kit lens. I will bring just the 270 ex ii and probably snag the new 40mm pancake for lower light. I just picked up an S100 so can't wait to see what kind of quality pics I can take with it and how far it will take me without having to break out the dslr every photo op. I am still unsure on the zoom. I am likely to rent the 70-300l and get the flipside 300 or tamrac evo 6. Still not sure.

On another note I have been heavily considering the new t4i with it's kit 18-135mm and the 40mm pancake and just the lowepro 102aw for the trip. That would cover most of my needs and be as lightweight as possible. Just not sure I want to invest that much in a backup body when I could use more lenses first covering more range. Also that was why I wanted the new camera for the trip and here I sit wanting less. I guess I am trying to think of fun with the family and not be a wanna be pro walking around with all this gear. Yeah it will yield nice shots but at what cost like everyone here has said. You would think this would be an easy decision but I am not sure how many years it will be before I will be back again so the photog in me wants the best. It does not guarantee the shots will be perfect and I will be able to focus on the shot vs my kids pulling me in every direction.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 07, 2012, 11:38:17 PM »
In Disney World this year, I only had the 16-35 on my 40D (24-55 equiv) and found it perfect for photos of the family in the Park. The venues are close and a long lens really isn't necessary. We also had a Powershot (with a 28 - 112 equiv) to capture video and more candid moments.
Unless you are really wanting close ups the feature animals at Sea World, I think the kit lens is going to be all you need. I even question the need for the 50 other than for speed indoors; the 5DIII really shines in low light.

I am pretty sure my kit lens will be fine. My concern is san Diego zoo, sea world , etc. I may bring the cheap 70-300 just for a travel zoom and dump it later when I decide where to go after the trip. Was really hoping for mirror less solution in time.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:58:11 PM »
You can travel light, or you can pack every piece of gear available to you to cover every conceivable shooting scenario. What do you want to do ?


  • On a family excursion to NH last weekend, main goal was documentary memories - I brought only the gripped 5DII and 28-300L, in a Lowepro Toploader Pro 75 AW.
  • Visiting family in CA for a few days a couple of months ago, goals were documentary memories including indoor portraits and ambient shooting - brought gripped 5DII, 28-300L, 35L, 135L, and 430EX II in a Lowepro Flipside 300 packed in a Storm im2500 hard case.
  • On a 3-week adoption trip to China last year, goal was documentary memories and a photographic chronicle of the trip for our then-new daughter. Even though we were traveling with our older daughter, I brought the gripped 5DII, 16-35L II, 24-105L, 70-200/2.8L IS II, TS-E 24L II, 35L, 1.4x II TC, and 430EX II, all in a Lowepro Flipside 400 AW packed in the Storm im2500.

Some key points - use a bag that's the right size for the gear you're bringing; a backpack style bag (vs. sling) supports the weight better.  When carrying lots of gear (like the China trip) I also pack a smaller bag in with the main luggage (Lowepro Toploader 65 AW and Lens Case 1W, on that trip) to carry body + 1-2 lenses, and leave the rest in the hotel, locked in the hard case (I use TamperSeal SearchAlert locks).

First off, just bring one flash, probably the 270. Second, I agree (and repeat) that the 70-300 non-L is not worth taking - you'd be best off with the L version, and still better off with 200mm and cropping. You could also consider the 200mm f/2.8L II prime.  The 70-300 DO is another option as suggested, but don't buy new - way overpriced for what it is, I bought one for $750 (and later, sold it for the same price). The IQ is not stellar, but ok (needs a contrast boost and sharpening in post), it's better that the 70-300 non-L, but the L is much better; the DO has bad zoom creep, too. 

For SeaWorld, the SD Zoo, and especially the Safari Park (was called Wild Animal Park when I lived in SD), you'll want 300mm, IMO.

Yeah I am either getting the 70-200L f4is or nothing as far as zoom. I also am going to look into that toploader bag for the zoo. Sounds like the bag I was looking for. I also was considering the flipside 400 but just thought it would be akward to spin it around to take the camera in and out. I wish they released a mirrorless in time because I would bring that with the new 40mm pancake and a tamron 17-50 2.8 and 55-250mm just for the parks. All lightweight travel gear. I have also been looking at the fuji x-s1 but it seems big also. I may go with the g1x and a 270ex ii and have my wife carry an S100 and travel light. Just not sure. Even if I do bring that I will bring my 5d and leave it in the room just in case. I wish they had a Canon solution that was lightweight like Nikon's v1 or sony nex7. I would be all over that.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 05, 2012, 10:59:21 PM »
Yeah sounds like sound advice but i will not have any reach for sea world or san diego zoo. Any suggestions. If canon would Release a mirrorless by end of july then i would go that route. I even considered a g1x but have read mixed reviews.

Lenses / Re: Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 05, 2012, 09:45:26 PM »
Yeah but my concern is the weight with two 5 year olds and going to the zoo, sea world, disneyland. I will already have the 5d3, 24-105, 430 ex ii, 270 ex ii, 50mm 1.4 and accessories. I first need to find a sling bag to hold all that and need to cover the telephoto area without adding a 2.5-3lb lens. I almost wish I had a rebel and a tamron 17-50 2.8 which is much lighter but I don't and I might aswell use my new camera but need to pack relatively light. I know the 70-300 is not the pinnacle of iQ but was thinking its light and would be better than a micro 4/3 system or sony nex combo. Again I just don't want to go with a p&S like the s100.

Lenses / Looking for travel zoom
« on: June 05, 2012, 08:53:59 PM »
I am going on vacation with my new canon 5d3 with kit lens. I was considering the 70-300 is non l for a lightweight zoom. Anyone have any success with it or should I consider only the 70-200 f4 is l which is larger and heavier. I want to travel light. Any help is appreciated.

I am going to San Diego and disneyland soon and want to carry my gear on my trip. I have the following:
Canon 5d3
24-105 with hood
50mm 1.4 hood
70-200 f4 is with hood (buying soon)
extra battery
430 ex ii
270 ex ii

I was used to the lowe pro sling shot 102AW but since going full frame now everything is bigger. I need to be able to stash the camera and grab it when a photo op comes up quickly so I would need to be able to stow the worst case scenario 5d3 with 70-200. The only ones I have found are the lowe pro 302aw which seems so big for a sling or the fastpack 350 but does not seem so well received. I have looked at the flipside but it seems so hard to spin the bag around just to take out the camera.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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