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EOS-M / Testing EOS M for Portraits
« on: July 22, 2013, 12:49:17 AM »
I usually use my 5D3 with the L lenses for portraits but recently i decided to give the M a shot.

Here are just some samples i did with the EOS M with the Canon 50mm F1.4 and an M adapter i bought from ebay (not original)

My opinions:

It took me a long time to get used to not having a viewfinder to shoot and even after this shoot, i still bring  the camera to my eye thinking there's a viewfinder.
Focusing was sometimes frustrating where it beeps in focus but it is not. (similar to what Digitalrev had) And i wasn't using a tripod..just handholding..The AF square was on the face and it beeps and turns green but it's not in focus..i encountered this MANY times during the shoot. But thankfully, models don't move that much so i could manual focus when i hit that issue.

I was also using the Youngnuo TTL trigger with my 600ex flash and the TTL also didn't work as well as would a 5D..then again..i wasn't expecting it to...Many shots were overexposed but thankfully the TTL meant i could adjust the flash power from the camera.

Overall, i believe the M's Raw files are pretty decent.. I still miss my 5D of course but the M actually performed reasonably well in terms of IQ..since it's the same sensor as the 650D, the typical Canon look is there in all the raw files and edibility is very good as well.

In Summary, when i don't want o carry around heavy gear, i will definitely use this M for shoots where speed isn't a necessity and ISO doesn't go above 400.

Sample 1:

Sample 2:

EOS-M / Re: 2.0.2 firmware and Magic Lantern
« on: July 20, 2013, 01:17:00 AM »
I don't do video but the one feature i really hope Canon does include is peaking…Manual focusing with the M is really a hit and miss especially for moving objects. Sometimes because the AF is too slow to catch up, Manual focusing is the only solution but without peaking, it's incredibly hard to know when you're actually in focus or not. I believer ALL other Mirrorles cameras in the market has peaking..except Canon no?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: EOS-M sharper than 6D?
« on: July 16, 2013, 10:41:12 PM »
I have a funny feeling the high ISO NR settings were set differently on both cameras..
The M should have the same IQ as a 650D since it's the same sensor..
The 6D being a FF camera should be better than the M..

EOS-M / Re: My Eos M at work...
« on: July 15, 2013, 11:33:36 AM »

I can't replicate your experience, but I used my M with 22/2 lens today at a birthday party for my neighbors 5-year-old daughter and it did OK.  It performed better when the kids were semi stationary than when they were running around, but overall it performed better than I expected.

The image quality was really good, even at 3200 ISO.  My biggest issue was recovery time between shots rather than AF performance. I missed some shots waiting for the camera to write to the SD card at times.  I was pretty pleased with the video as well.

After 5 days with the M+ 22/2, I'm very happy with it.  I've mostly used it for landscapes and shots of the kids around the house and it has performed very well in my opinion.

Well, the event i was shooting at is a yoyo competition indoors so the lighting was variable throughout the day..the ISO was at least 1600, and the players moved about the stage very quicky and in quick that's why the AF the time it caught focus, the player already moved..even in video mode, it just refuses to track and keep focus..
well, the cameras we usually use to shoot are the 1dx and 5d3 so i just tried out the M for fun since we already had main photographers shooting anyways.. the off stage photos turned out great with the long as there are no super quick movements, the camera is great..
i was just slightly irritated that other brands at similar pricing performed better at the same event..i wasn't the only M user there and the other guy also gave up :)

EOS-M / Re: My Eos M at work...
« on: July 14, 2013, 12:39:42 PM »
It gets bad press because people still think something in that price range is supposed to perform as good or better than something that sells for up to 5x more. I actually want one. Eos m plus adapter is the best backup camera for field work that you can buy right now ^^

Not really..i never expected it to match something 5x more expensive. The fact i had so much trouble with it not because it couldn't keep with with the 5D..the fact is, it couldn't even keep up with the Nex5N or the FujiX100s. I have friends shooting the same event using those cameras while i was using the M...they has alot more luck than i did and that's what got me disappointed in it. So i borrowed their cameras and true enough..they were way better.
the only reason why i bought it is because i could use my canon glass and also because it was cheap....but if given a choice, i would've gone with a nex anyday after that weekend of shooting and deleting over 80% of my photos because of wrong exposure or bad focusing...

EOS-M / Re: My Eos M at work...
« on: July 13, 2013, 01:12:51 PM »
Quote from: verysimplejason
Just a suggestion...  why not leave also the 24-70 also and just bring a 22mm and 18-55 EF-M lenses + a small external flash?  It'll make your trip more fun.  I believe those 2 lenses are enough to cover most of your needs and they're good optically though not as good as your 24-70.  :)

Because the only lens for the M i own is the 22mm..i bought from the B&H fire sale..
And the only flashes i own are the 600ex so they've even bigger than the camera haha..

EOS-M / Re: My Eos M at work...
« on: July 13, 2013, 01:11:04 PM »
Thanks man..
Actually, i'm not too bothered about architectural photos and stuff because this is my 3rd visit to the UK in 4 years so..i think i've covered pretty much what i needed to..the only difference, the past 2 times, i didn't own the 5D :)

Honestly, i've been using the M these 2 days for my event shooting..and i absolutely hated it..i guess for studio and still work it works fine but for faster action in variable lighting, it failed miserably.
The fact that 80% of my shots had wrong exposure, 90% of the shots failed to focus and the servo mode 100% of the time couldn't keep up. It was a good thing I wasn't the main photographer, i was just there to "test" the M...and i compare with the Sony Nex series, it fails miserably for fast event shooting. I tried the 22stm, 50f1.4,85f1.4 with the M and they all failed.

The only time it worked was when i set EVERYTHING to full manual, Aperture,shutter,iso,MF...only then i could get everything right..but without peaking, manual focusing was also a pain.

So to me, somehow this camera might make an ok backup and fun camera to carry around for candid and random shooting...but i think even for the UK, i will still bring along my 5D..just in case...because when the M fails, it REALLY fails

EOS-M / Re: My Eos M at work...
« on: July 11, 2013, 11:53:44 AM »
Thanks for the great review and trust you have in the M.
I originally bough it as a backup camera for candid general shooting.
However, after reading your blog, i'm actually thinking of leaving my 5D3 at home and only bringing the M with a 24-70ii lens for my upcoming trip to the UK. I was worried i might miss my 5D3 too much if i didn't bring it but i know i wouldn't miss the weight of tugging it around.
And since i'm not needing the high iso or higher mp or RAW quality of the 5D3, the M might just be all i need for the trip..
Would you bravely do the same if it were me or should i still bring the 5D3 just in case….i really am not looking forward to tugging it around London...

EOS-M / Re: How do you carry your EOS-M?
« on: July 10, 2013, 11:08:57 AM »
The proprietary lug that Canon give is OK. You can remove the original strap from the lug very easily..took me about 10 secs to remove each end…
I then bought a Paul Frank camera neck strap and i attached that to the lug..all in all..took me under 5mins to get it done.

I have no idea how it managed to get sooo damaged in the depot…
What the hell! ... what did UPS have to say about it?

Ups said nothing.. They just repacked it and rescheduled a delivery. But I'm going to get b&h to issue an rma

I bought this deal and was happy when it arrived at the UPS depot..but guess what…
I have no idea how it managed to get sooo damaged in the depot…
And with B&H out of stock..i don't know if i'll be able to get a replacement soon.

That looks like it was underwater! Was it soaked?

I don't know yet. that was a photo sent to me by UPS. They have to deliver it to me.. But i'm also waiting for a reply from B&H on how to proceed with this..if i should accept it or if they can send me a replacement. I'm ok to keep it if the hardware is undamaged but i won't know until they deliver it to me tomorrow

I bought this deal and was happy when it arrived at the UPS depot..but guess what…
I have no idea how it managed to get sooo damaged in the depot…
And with B&H out of stock..i don't know if i'll be able to get a replacement soon.

Firstly, i'm not sure about the 6D at 12800iso vs the 5ds..i've never actually shot that high for a paid gig.
Especially for weddings, i don't think any couple would want photos taken at iso12800 with any camera to be used as an official photo.
To me, the high ISO is just a bonus for times when you need it for general shooting and personal use..i wouldn't use it for an official photo of any sorts. Personally, i try not to go above 1600 if i can help it.

I would go for faster and better glass IMO….there is a difference between a good 2.8 zoom vs an F4 one besides just the aperture…there's alot more to it than that.

My favourite combo for almost anything…the 5D3 with the 24-70mk2

Third Party Lenses (Sigma, Tamron, etc.) / Re: Tamron 70-300 VC USD
« on: June 28, 2013, 08:15:36 PM »
I do think people are expecting this to be as good as the 70-300L. At least when I was researching before buying this I've read some sites that compared the 2.
Anyways for a 500 dollar lens you can go wrong with this. It's plastic and feels really plastic and the af and vc switches ate very loose and I've accidentally switched them so many times that I'm actually using a scotch tape to tape the switches down now.
Baring in mind I've used this lens no more than 5x and I'm already facing these issues so it's not wear and tear.

Third Party Lenses (Sigma, Tamron, etc.) / Re: Tamron 70-300 VC USD
« on: June 28, 2013, 02:17:04 PM »
I think that's because it's not an overly popular lens. It's not very high quality anyways but it's rather cheap. I have one myself and i only use it rarely when i go to the zoo..but how often can you visit the same place :)
It works well for the price..don't expect L lens standard. great for people who don't use telephoto lenses very often and don't want to spend too much on an L.
Anyways, speaking of zoo photos, all these photos are taken with this lens.

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