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EOS Bodies / Re: No EOS-1D X Replacement in 2014 [CR2]
« on: September 29, 2014, 10:33:57 AM »
What I find funny is if you go over to sonyalpharumors many people compare the new Exmor to the 5DMKIII and admit it is a better camera system all round.

These are all comments by sonyalpharumors members on the latest sensor threads.

"dynamic range at higher ISO's where the 5DIII's lurch ahead of their nikon/sony counterparts"

Funny how even they think DXO is dodgy "If you leave DxOMark planet and land back to earth, you'll see that in real life the difference is very very little, and after ISO400 Canon 6D and 5DMarkIII are as good as or better than Sony sensors"

Also most are in the same camp bout the mega pixel war and know that sony needs to create more native faster lenses 'I'd rather have faster autofocus, in body stabilization, quieter shutter and more native lenses (and faster ones) than more megapixels.'

From that article it seems they are excited to see what Canon do with this new sensor, because although sony make the best sensors their cameras and systems are a lot less than to be desired. Also How much more R&D do sony actually have after putting all into exmor?

Canon was in a similar position a few years ago and then regurgitated the same tech for the last 5 years so that will be interesting to see how far sony can push their tech and if Canon does have new tech how it will rival and the time scales because sony is to announce their new sensors early 2015.

I think thats what we are forgetting and a lot of people on here are the other way round ATM DR and resolution is all the rage and aggressively contested, forget about all that Canon has over its competition and that the 5DMKIII is far from being thrown to the parts bin.


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Im not a Canon fan boy but there is a huge difference between the two images. You could probably get away with the Sony but not the Canon. Professionally tho an image like that is IMO bad practice and it is just a test. You would shoot this differently.

I used to shoot property for a local estate agent and they would insist I used their cameras for insurance reasons, unfortunately 1100D and some really poor tokina 10-24mm wide angle lens  :-\ comparing this to my 5DMKIII is night and day, but I used it and I got good results with 3 brackets… in HDR situations

Swan House, Thornthwaite, Keswick, Dining area for PFK Estate Agents by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

I find unless there is something to see out of a window or a view recovering the highlights gives an image too HDR like and looks unrealistic prefer the light to actually come through the window.

Swan House, Thornthwaite, Keswick, Kitchen/Living room for PFK Estate Agents by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

High Chestnut Hill, Kitchen, Keswick, Cumbria, PFK by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr


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How often would you shoot that scene like that to get a useable image? Never… IMO a test of how far you can push the tech and its an extreme test, interesting but extreme.

There is barely anything to recover from its so under exposed, basically a black image, even tho the sony resolves more +5 is ridiculous, I would never send something like that out.

Ok expose for the highlights but there is nothing to recover the blinds have no detail to show, ok if it was a landscape in the background and the blinds were open to let more light in…

Either way if you were shooting this commercially you would bracket with both cameras, you would never shoot one image, to expect the camera to be able to resolve that is just silly and again extreme. Once you bracket the difference becomes much slimmer.

Yes from playing with the raw file the sony is impressive and does open up more possibility but again, I personally don't shoot like that and also wouldn't send something like that out, although in a pinch is definitely useful.

I think tho these technologies start to render the actual skill of the photographer as useless and you can rely on the tech too much as in ye its fine il sort in it post. I don't like that attitude.

I understand your frustration Jrista, I think your a great contributor but there are ways and means of getting around the problem, just enjoy shooting instead of fixating on a problem that there are answers too  :)

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Lenses / Re: Shootout: EF 16-35 f/4L IS vs EF 17-40 f/4L
« on: September 29, 2014, 04:46:50 AM »
Great review  :)

Will keep my 16-35mm F2.8 for now.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: September 29, 2014, 04:38:24 AM »
Ive been shooting Canon for 10 years starting with my first SLR film camera, then a 350D then 40D and now been shooting my 5DMKIII for 2 years and it continues to impress me, anything I demand of it, it delivers. Great AF FPS handling and love the IQ 50-6400 fantastic useable range. The only thing I wish it had was built in GPS when I'm traveling as the GP-E2 is bulky and a pain.

Love my lenses too, but wish the system was a little lighter, not a problem for commercial but for my own personal use is a little bit of a pain to carry.

I see no need to upgrade it until something decisively better exists, and nothing really does. You can say the Exmor chip is worth it and yes it delivers but the comparison only really shows its head in extreme circumstances. I generally don't shoot extreme circumstances so for me the difference is minimal. Yes it would be nice for the odd occasion but as a photographer I ensure the images come out correctly so I don't have to worry in post and rely on the tech.

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A lot of these examples are worst case scenario pushing the tech as far as it can go.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?
« on: September 26, 2014, 09:07:32 AM »
SRAW and MRAW aren't the answer to full Raw file on a higher MP Camera. The whole point of Raw is that they aren't compressed and contain all the original data.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?
« on: September 26, 2014, 06:55:51 AM »
The 5D line has always been an event photographers camera and thats who buys them. The files as they are are a good size, making the MP 30+will increase the files by a 1/3 and after editing a raw and saving it as a PSD they are already in the 250mb range which is more than enough. You can only fit 1000 images on a 32gb card so at a typical wedding your shooting 64gbs as it is shooting redundancy is 128gb. It basically means more money to be spent on storage reducing profit margins. When your not printing past A2 or even A1 that space is wasted. Granted it gives you room to crop, but most event shooters don't shoot to crop just adds time in post.

its not a landscape camera and most event shooters don't need that kind of resolution.

The high MP camera designation was always the 1DS and I hope that continues or I for one as an event photographer will be disappointed as Canon won't make a camera for lets be honest the main area photography is still commercial. Landscape photography is a niche, there are not many photographers making a living from it anymore.

I would be happy with a modest boost to 24 or even staying the same with an improvement in noise performance and adding a few other features like GPS and possibly making the camera a little lighter.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 10:23:39 AM »
So basically you will only buy a product when they beat the opposition in all aspects?

It won't happen. There are always pros and cons.

What baffles me is you say your happy or were happy with the 18mp sensor which was a dog when it came out and your still using it and saying how bad the FF sensors are when they are a such huge improvement your almost kidding yourself.

Should try them before coming to your conclusion. I also don't think the 5D is poor value and wouldn't hesitate buying another one I think its the best camera Canon has ever produced and is currently one of the best available as a whole unit, for the event photographer it is pretty much perfect (which is where the main economy of photography is) The 6D is also great value, in the right hands they make and will continue to make incredible imagery.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 08:31:09 AM »
No offence AvTvM your the type of customer that won't be happy with any camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 07:22:55 AM »
axtstern there is no point waiting and wishing, buy what you need. Resale value is always good, if you don't think its good enough some one else will.

Its backward to wait for the perfect camera it will never come. There will be pos and cons to every cam that comes out.

+1 ... exactly my situation too.
7D sold. Some glass sold, some L glass still here. 7D II not interested, 5D III not interested, sensor not good enough, no Wifi, end of life. 6D way too crippled. EOS-M used as transitional "good-weather camera". Waiting for killer M3 and/or killer 5D IV.

The 5DMKIII sensor isn't good enough? Its not at the end of its life either and there is some great deals on them. If you thought the 18mp sensor is ok the 5DMKIIIs will blow you away so will the 6D. Sounds like you need to actually try them. The 5DMKIII is one of the most capable cameras on the market regardless of you thinking its a poor offering. What rubbish.

Half of you sound like spoilt children throwing toys out the pram because Canon hasn't made a camera just for you.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:52:06 AM »
I don't get the hate on the 5DMKIII yes it doesn't have as much DR as the D800 but we've known that for 3 years. Personally I've not had many situations where DR has been an issue. As a photographer you work the situation and by doing so solve the problem.

Relying on a cameras DR to recover is useful but what have photographers been doing for the last 100 years, there are ways and means, some of the best images in the world have been taken with Canon cameras. Yes the sensor is long in the tooth but it works and it works for a huge amount of photographers and I continue to love shooting with the 5DMKIII and I'm always impressed with how far I can push the files so I don't know why people have such issue. If your struggling so much bracket…

I have also tried the A7 and A7R, its impressive the DR and a nice little camera, but I find the camera a pain to use and the glass inferior and using an adapter a pain because the AF is so slow. The whole ecosystem is too juvenile and needs to grow.

I agree with the disappointment of the 7D. The original 7D was a fantastic camera, truly fantastic camera with a crap sensor and it seems true in the MKII. That sensor was crap when it came out 6 years ago and they are going to use it in a camera for another 5 possible years, for that reason I wouldn't buy one. I had my 7D 2 weeks and hated the noise at low ISO so much so bought the 5DMKIII and never looked back.

I really wanted to buy a smaller Canon camera to take traveling with me and the SL1 is a nice camera but I know how disappointed I was with the 7D sensor and Wouldn't want the images of a lifetime to be taken with it so I'm lugging my 5DMKIII instead because the A7 just doesn't fit the bill for me and swapping to it with the mediocre glass is a £3000 change which is insane.

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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70mm
« on: September 24, 2014, 07:30:08 PM »
I must have a good one mine is a fantastic performer. Better than the 24-70mm F4 and the 24-70mm MKII at nearly 3 times the price doesn't deliver 3x the IQ. Its a cracking lens IQ wise but doesn't seem its build is quite up to the MKI.

The 24-70mm MKI is also a good design with its reverse zoom, more protection better hood. etc etc

Unless you 100% need it I would keep the 24-70mm until the new version comes down enough to make it better acquisition.

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Its an nice idea, but its not reliable enough for the power you need. Better off buying a Rav Power 14,000mah external battery about the same size as a 2.5" HDD and buy a Hahnel Pro Cube and a DC to USB adapter.

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I don't know how you can love the IQ of the 7D, I really disliked it the noise at base ISO is awful and where the IQ counts. I sold it on very quickly within 2 weeks and bought the 5DMKIII never looked back.

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