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Photography Technique / Re: Travel set up
« on: September 10, 2014, 11:56:45 AM »
There is being minimalist and being comfortable I don't mind, but the trip isn't just roughing it. Loads of nice restaurants, nights out etc etc and want to have a good mix of the two. Its not a hard core trip. I understand the minimalist approach but there is always a good compromise somewhere  :)

At the same time my hiking clothes are great but I don't want to look like a walker all the time and its not suitable for the whole trip nice to have a little bit of your home comfort too.

Photography Technique / Re: Travel set up
« on: September 10, 2014, 11:27:58 AM »
The only camping is on the inca trail, and you get a sherpa that carries all the tents and equipment. The bag does have a sleeping bag attachment at the bottom and has lots of loupes you can attach carabiners to and hang things like shoes etc.

The trip is a group trip of 12-15 people and mostly hostel accommodation.

Well the camera equipment will be in one bag, the day pack mostly apart from hiking. Leaving the 45l completely free for everything else which will be left at the hostels so I don't have to carry it. I will then swap out items depending on the needs for each days itinerary. The compartments in the 45l are removable too and fold flat and can be used as a full sized hiking bag. It is designed as a camping bag so you can attach your tent and sleeping bag at the bottom. 45l is more than enough room I am taking a multitude of clothing, my walking gear is all designed to be layered up, so I have base layers, mid layers flees and rain coat. Means instead of a big coat you can either add layers or reduce depending to your temperature, similar to skiing.

A lot of my walking tshirts are breathable and are very thin and compact meaning they take up no room so taking 5 of these, mid layers are made from wool so clean themselves so I'm only taking two, fantastic things. I then have a zip flees. Then I'm taking a pair of walking trousers which zip off at the knee for shorts. I am taking casual stuff too, two paris of shorts a pair of jeans and 3-4 t shirts and a hoody. 2 pairs of shoes one walking waterproof trainer sort of hybrid to keep weight down but keep my feet dry and a pair of casual shoes. 10 pairs of underpants and 6 pairs of sock and 2 sets of walking socks.

Then I have medical and toiletries bag. All will be in packing cubes so can be condensed and so I can figure out which one is which. But I have all of this down to a fine art, no liquids apart from toothpaste, solid shampoo to cut down weight and lasts 50 days. I will wash my clothes on the way as there are lots of stops its also cheap, so can keep things down to a minimum.

There is a good post about it below if you want to read more about traveling packing tips. This girl runs her business by traveling and carries a lot more than I am, she is also is much smaller!! Im a pretty well built nearly 6ft guy and she's about 5ft5 and half my weight. But she is a lady so taking a lot of things maybe us boys wouldn't need :P

Great read


The laptop I understand the concerns, but if you are going away for a week to a month I would say fair enough, because you can sort them out when you get back. But if you are traveling for an extend period of time like me you start to miss the use of your own things, using a internet cafe might be fine but means you can't do it when you want. Also I think I will probably get through at least 5000 images in the SA trip, that narrows down to only taking 100 pics a day… as the trip is 51 days and organising 5000 in one go will be a horrendous experience. Hostels all have wifi access whether its good or not is another question. Enough to post a picture and blog post I would say.

I am meeting my parents in LA tho so I could do the 2 months without the laptop and get them to bring it with them, would save some weight. I just like to review my images properly especially when some of these places will have miraculous scenery.

Photography Technique / Re: Travel set up
« on: September 10, 2014, 09:51:40 AM »
I was planning on writing a blog in my down time.

I won't be editing a huge amount on the trip just one or two here or there. A large aspect of the trip is traveling by bus/plane so time to do it then.

Main reason is I don't think I can go 5 months without seeing the images I'm taking at a half decent size. Don't know about you! lol and the MBA has much better base for this although only 11" I find it the best all round machine, and I can organise as I go, I can catch up with friends and family Skype etc

Yes the bag I have bought is a specific trekking bag designed to be carry photographic gear one of the only ones. I have agonised over the bags as you usually get great photography packs with crap support or great support and poor photographic handling. Took a great amount of time and trial, error and money to find the right ones lol!

I picked this one in the end Rover Pro 45L AW


It will be my hiking bag when needed, and be my luggage bag to put things in the hold during flights etc It also has two pull out camera compartments which can be folded down when not in use, or carry other items.


It has very good supportive straps with an aluminium frame with hip support and a trampoline style rear system for cool air to pass.

I have also bought the Photo Hatchback 22l AW as my day pack its a rear loading camera bag.

This will be for my carry on but also a day pack when I only need a few bits and pieces in the day, it is really compact but holds a lot of gear also has a removable camera compartment allowing it to be a full sized bag.

Between the two I think I have covered most bases.

The trip really isnt all about the photography, I can't wait to sample the culture, food and meet new people, it. But Photography it is a big aspect and I just want to make sure my decisions are the best ones available to me and the forum is always full of great knowledge and solutions I won't have thought about!

Really appreciate everyones input.

I will most certainly start a thread of my journey, documenting my journey. Only 7 weeks to go :D!

Photography Technique / Re: Benefits of IS in fast shutter speeds
« on: September 10, 2014, 06:05:00 AM »
IS will not benefit fast action. It may actually blur your images by trying to stabilise it, so turn it off. IS is useful for camera shake, if your shooting fast action at high SP then its no benefit, but is useful when panning or when the light gets low. IS is useful for stabilising the viewfinder tho, so you can track subjects easier at large focal lengths.

IS does nothing with moving subjects its primarily objective is to reduce camera shake. Mode 2 on some lenses aids panning.

Photography Technique / Re: Travel set up
« on: September 10, 2014, 05:24:27 AM »
Thanks for the responses!

Maybe worth adding a little more info.

In terms of the weight and hiking, I'm a 26 year old sport nut so I am on the fitter side, I also live in Cumbria, which is one of the wettest places in the UK so have plenty of weather gear and has many high peeks I frequent with my camera gear so training side I'm quite happy with. I'm also good with altitude and have been 10,000ft+ quite a few times so hopefully should be ok but yes we have a 5 day acclimatisation period in Cuzco.

All my gear is insured because of my commercial work, but I also have a stipulation of £3000 worth of world wide cover which this kit just about fits into, just slightly over. Brazil and Argentina I've read are probably more dangerous, but at the same time you can think that about anywhere and you don't know what situ you will be in, I will only be in brazil a week and Buenos Aires a couple of days.

The tele is a must as I am going to a nature reserve for 6 days and one of my passions is wildlife photography and where better to shoot than the Amazon.

I am in a group of 12-15 people all guided for the entirety of SA so I suppose that adds a little more security, but the bags I have chosen are well designed in terms of access and my day pack which is where my camera gear will mostly be can only be opened from the rear as in the part that is in contact with your back. Both have pull out camera compartments which even if the bag is slashed will be very difficult to remove without me noticing.

I do intend to travel wisely and won't put myself in any unnecessary danger, I will only be carrying my bags between locations and every hostel i stay in has safes/lockers I can deposit the gear I won't be using and try to cut down on eventualities.

I have an iPad mini and have tried the offload technique and it just doesn't do it for me as described above the hassle isn't worth it for the time. It is also not powerful enough to edit anything quick, I tried a 5DMKIII raw file in PS touch and express which is reduced to 10mp during transfer? and it was like watching paint dry. The wifi card reader HDDs are also an option I have looked at but they are £500 for a 2tb version and don't think they are very good value at all. I already have the MBA 2TB HDD and a small card reader and would rather spend the £500 on the trip.

Im not really a fan of the EOS M and by putting full size lenses on it sort of makes the size pointless would rather have a proper system you can rely on, I have the sony Nex5N (which is miles better IMO) and although I love it, using the screen all the time is a complete pain I like the view finder. I have thought about buying the 100D or the 700D as I have the 17-55mm F2.8 and the 70-300mm would give me some more reach but as said I really don't like the 18mp sensor and that is my main reason not to buy. Which is why I was looking at the Sony options as their IQ is similar if not better than the 5DMKIII but 1/3 the weight.

In terms of redundancy like I said earlier I plan on shooting to both cards keeping the SD card separately and swapping out for duplicate and also dropping all the pictures onto the laptop and the HDD, which I will keep separately in different bags so thats 3 types of redundancy so hopefully that will be enough.

To make my point more clear, I don't think that 3kg of gear is that heavy but its just add it to everything else and its the only area I can think to cut the weight. I imagine my bag with all my clothes and supplies will weigh somewhere near 10-15kg and my day pack 5-6kg so 20ish KG in total.

I need to get it all together and give it a go really, but just because I can carry it doesn't mean I will want to carry it! lol and if the smaller sony cameras are a viable option I wouldn't have a problem swapping the 5DMKIII out.

EOS Bodies / Re: This news is exciting!
« on: September 09, 2014, 11:51:41 AM »
Cant underestimate how many people will be disappointed if the 7DMKII is a quicker better built 70D. With a small update, I'm not in the market for one but I had the MK1 and that 18mp sensor is awful where it counts 100-400ISO. Its unfair to customers.

Especially seen as tho this wait has been stretched out so long! If the tech was there why not just implement it? I know Canon needs to sell cameras which is why they have left a big gap. It just means the 70D will become cheaper and a more attractive package?

People continue to buy entry level and mid range cameras with probably less intensive research than the pro bodies. But they can't continue to kid themselves and rip off old technology for much longer surely. Seen as tho we are still on the same iteration sensor tech 5 years later almost to the day since the 7D was released, just makes you wonder what they are thinking! Or hoping everything is false and they will bring something out that really is an improvement.

Theres a difference in bringing features across the product line which is great, but when the higher end stuff has a  complete lack of evidence of R&D where does the innovation come from. The only thing we have really seen is the improvement of video AF, which is great for video people but what about people who shoot stills…

Im not really ranting, just disappointed I suppose. IMO the only cameras worth having are the FF and they are out of reach for a lot of people.

Photography Technique / Re: Travel set up
« on: September 09, 2014, 10:59:45 AM »
I think the first option is probably the best, the areas I'm traveling are quite touristy so should be ok hopefully.

Anyone who shoots a 5DMKIII have an A6000 or A7 with aforementioned lenses?

Thanks I forgot to mention the Gorillapod SLR Zoom is on order :)

Ive heard mix reviews for these being sufficient for the 5DMKIII, is the pro a better option? the Zoom weighs a lot less and from the images I've seen it looks like it would take a 5DMKIII ok and its well within the weight limit of 3kg, even with the 70-300mm L its 1kg off capacity.

Photography Technique / Re: Travel set up
« on: September 09, 2014, 09:28:17 AM »
Thanks for the advice tayassu.

I do have the 16-35mm F2.8 MKII but again its another 640g to carry and the hood is an absolute pain to carry around. bringing the total weight for the camera alone to 3.6kg add the laptop and accessories another 1.5kg 5kg before I have packed any clothes and essentials.

This is my query because the 5DMKIII is 940g and the smaller Sony A systems the whole lot is less than 1500g with equal IQ and more discrete. Its a difficult one.

Photography Technique / Re: How to avoid halo
« on: September 09, 2014, 05:45:14 AM »
+1 on clarity, PITA!!!! Better off using a brush and making selective edits than overall clarity. As it adds contrast to the edges hence the halo.

The beautiful Lake District, Lake Ullswater, Penrith, Cumbria UK

Having this 2 miles away is a photographers dream and my inspiration to be a photographer.

Silhouette Sunset, Park Foot, Ullswater, Cumbria by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

Hallin Fell, Ullswater, Cumbria, starscape by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

Photography Technique / Travel set up
« on: September 09, 2014, 05:03:36 AM »
Hi looking for some travel camera advice!

Im about to set off on the 2nd Nov on a 2 month trip of South america, then 3 months in California. Cali isn't really a concern as I am renting an RV to travel with.

The itinerary is vast, but it is pretty much all backpacking with hostels busses and a few flights but basically I need to carry everything I need with me. I have two bags, both camera bags one day pack which is the Lowepro Photo Hatchback 22L AW which I will use as a carry on and the Lowepro Rover Pro 45L AW for all the rest of my gear. I intend to use the second bag to hike with too as it is a proper outdoor bag with good support. Both have pull out camera compartments.

The trip includes a fair amount of hiking including the Inca Trail and Machu Picchu but after this trip before I fly on to LA I have a 6 day amazon trip so need to ensure I have a lens selection I can get close to wildlife but also wide enough for landscape. I also want to take my 11" Macbook air not only for keeping in contact with my friends and family but to offload images and do a little sorting in the down time. Both bags accommodate the MBA, I also have a twelve south plug bug which adds a full powered 5A USB port for quicker charging, these two together weigh 1.1kg. I also have a usb 3 card reader a 14,000mah external battery for charging on the road and a 2tb external USB 3 for data redundancy I was thinking of adding 2x 128gb USB3 memory sticks for more redundancy.

For redundancy I will keep each in a (laptop/HDD/cards) separate bag incase the worst should happen.

I currently shoot with the 5DMKIII and a range of accessories in my sig. I was going to take this with the 24-105mm, 50mm 1.8 (for low light cheap light not too bothered about it) and the 70-300mm L, 2x32gb 2x16gb CF cards and I am doubling up on the same in SD cards for dual writing, but also for redundancy I will swap out the SD cards for new ones so I always have the originals. This set up is around 3kg.

I also have the Nex5n which is a great camera took it skiing and it performed brilliantly, it has better IQ imo than any of the current APC canon cameras except the 70D possibly but weighs 350g with kit lens. Otherwise I would be looking at the 100D or 700D because I have the 17-55mm F2.8. Really think the 18mp sensor is poor, had it in my 7D and was very disappointed with it.

So basically I'm worried about weight and being very obvious with the gear, as it is massive and is professional grade especially with the white 70-300mm screams steal me. It is also my first trip in to the continent and not sure how gear is seen, europe and america I'm not worried about. I was going to take the 70-300mm DO as it is black but after testing it against the L there is no contest and its not that much smaller and lighter the IQ is worth it.

I was looking at swapping out the MBA for an iPad mini retina. But to get images on and off you need to jail break to get iFile through cydia to use with an external HDD and the lightning cable is USB2 and only one way, so would take twice as long to offload and then backup. Although it is again 1/3 the weight, its capabilities are very limited in terms of editing and sorting. The other idea was to use a windows tablet but again the macbook air is so useful and I already have one.

So my conclusion to the best way to reduce weight is with a different camera choice. I like the sony cameras I have been looking at the A7 and A7R but prefer the A7 because its cheaper, smaller file sizes and has Phase detect AF. I also like the fact you can charge it via USB means less chargers it also shares batteries with my Nex5N and I have the 14,000MAH battery external battery I can use to charge and the plug bug.

It is also a 1/3 the weight of the 5DMKIII. Problems… Lens choice, the Zeiss 24-70 F4 is ok and its IQ is apparently equal to or slightly better than the 24-105, its not the best lens from what I have read and you loose on the long end which is a shame but it is pretty expensive for an F4. Then there is the kit lens 28-70mm F3.5-5.6 looks not far off in IQ but the variable aperture is annoying. There is a 50mm 1.8 but because of price will most probably give it a miss, but there is no lens past 200mm and the 70-200mm G lens is supposed to be ok too but not stellar like the 70-300mm L and weighs 800g which is 250g less than the 70-300mm L and obviously you loose the 100mm, 300 is really the minimum I want to take. Also it only has one card slot, so in camera redundancy isn't possible.

So this got me onto the A6000 the IQ is very good very impressive for an APC sized sensor and edges everything on the market atm. It is lighter than the A7 and R, has 97% AF coverage shoots 12FPS and with the crop of 1.5 makes the 70-200mm F4 a 105-300mm equivalent. The 16-70mm F4 gives equivalent of 24-105mm It also has a rotating screen it would be nice to do a bit of vlogging on my trip too and its video AF is very good too.

Problems, I am spoiled with my 5DMKIII it is the perfect camera imo but for commercial photography not for a trip like this. I love the viewfinder its AF system and the lens selection I already have. I am used to the sony APC sensors and I think they are good enough for the trip, would be nice to go full frame with the A7 but the A6000 seems a better camera? I am also concerned that non of them have the weather sealing even close to the 5DMKIII and the weather sealed lenses. I will be in humid, arid and dusty environments. Also I'm concerned with the EVF I used one in store seemed ok but changing AF point seems a hassle and it was a little bland in colour rendition, but everything else the EVF can do is astounding but a little worried about low light.

I also like the idea of the capture pro camera clip by peak design


to have an accessible mount for the camera and also take the black rapid too. Just means I can attach it to my bag strap for quick access and it doesn't weigh a lot. I don't think this is feasible with the 5DMKIII too big and heavy will pull too much on one shoulder and on a belt will make my trousers fall down!

So this will save me 1.5kgs with the A7/A6000 16-70mm and 70-200mm and it is more discrete (apart from the 70-200mm G). But will cost me £2000 when I already have all the kit apart from the 70-300mm L so either way I'm spending £1000 to get a new lens. Is the weight saving worth it? or am I thinking about it too much?

This is a trip of a lifetime for me and really want to get the best out of it photographically.

What would you do?

Thanks in advance for the opinions.

Photography Technique / Re: Night Shot- Brooklyn Bridge
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:23:19 PM »
Nice shot, I don't think you have really done anything wrong here. I wouldn't worry about diffraction, yes the image looses sharpness the higher you go but if you want ultimate DOF you need to shoot higher than F8, and you have achieved that everything is sharp all the way to the buildings in the BG, I think you have nailed the focus. I think the aperture and exposure aren't bad, you can go either way but seen as tho you were shooting a tripod why not go with the long exposure, creates more movement making a more dynamic image but I would have probably tried to shoot the image at 1 min or longer for a more exaggerated effect. Would have gained more reflection from the city light in the sky and the water would be more silky smooth.

If you are worried about large areas of the image you don't like, like the glass box, why didn't you shoot the other side of the bridge? Its ok relying on software but at the same time you should compose carefully so not to have to worry about doing so much work in post. Also the glass box is there its apart of the scene so whether it matters or not is personal choice but from a documentation point of view people may wonder why it isn't there. It is hard when its dark to compose perfectly tho. One way around it is setting the ISO to its highest setting and going into live view and see whats actually there the camera can see more than you can in the dark. Once your happy drop it back down and shoot.

PP would make a difference, Bring the sky and water to life with contrast and a little extra brightness. I think the colour balance is quite cool and by warming it up would transform the image and bring it to life. Bringing out the shadows and more detail the bridge is quite dark especially on the left there isn't much detail, contrast, vibrance, little clarity all would aid the image experimentation is good there are numerous ways you could edit the image even B+W would be a nice. Little tidy up of the distracting elements wouldn't be bad either, I would crop the half of the building on the right it doesn't really add anything to the picture apart from being a distraction the eye is drawn to at the edge of the frame.

Another way you could improve the image is by adding something in the foreground to add interest and scale, the eye needs something to be drawn to, otherwise its an image of a bridge and less compelling.

When I shot the brooklyn bridge back in 2008 I had no tripod, it was january and -9 conditions weren't ideal and it had been a long day we only had 10 mins so needed to be quick! But I wanted a different angle, not the overview because although its a nice shot its a little boring and a typical angle. Unless you were conveying more about the bridge by giving an overview then trying to capture more details as a series.

Heres a couple I shot, I'm not saying they are good I shot these 6 years ago while I was at Uni studying photography so I was just getting started but looking for a different angle that draws the viewer into the image creates a more compelling image.

New York, Brooklyn Bridge by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

New York, Brooklyn Bridge by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

Here are a few other examples of the Millennium Bridge in Newcastle UK, I shot back in 2006 maybe to give you an idea of a different perspective?

"Gateshead Millennium Bridge" Newcastle, Night, landscape, Sage, Baltic Mill by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

Gateshead Millennium Bridge, Newcastle Nightscape by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

Gateshead Millennium Bridge, Newcastle Nightscape by TomScottPhoto, on Flickr

No offence, your missing the point.

A 50mp camera vs a 23mp camera you are effectively doubling your storage needs. Its not an issue of whether you can afford it as a professional, its a given if that is your choice, its the fact that its overkill and unnecessary and people don't take this into consideration, buying a system and not realising that their PP set up is woefully underprepared for serious professional work.

For me switching from my 5DMKIII to a 50mp camera would mean completely rethinking my whole set up, which means the cost for an upgrade isn't just 3-8k for a new camera system.

For my field wedding and events doubling the MP doubles my storage needs and in turn double my cost. That is the issue it will cost you double for the same amount of pictures. Are you going to start charging more because your using a larger MP camera because of storage needs?

Its not about backing up just 15tb, if 15tb is the end data use per year, no point buying a system which will only last you a year its a contingency for a 5 year plan. If it is 15tb per year your total needs to be over 75tb instead of adding drives and buying more as needed, then doubling it for an effective safety net. This method gives you a better safety than a NAS and backing up to another machine. Talking huge data usage. whereas its more like 7TB with the 5DMKIII for me.

Even if you are backing up with BR discs at 25gbs each you would need 6 for one wedding!!! How long are you going to spend waiting for discs to rip? grasping what I'm saying?

Thats why the 5DMKIII is a great camera because its files are a good size, the camera is quick and the IQ is great. 23mp is more than enough for prints up to A2 and thats as big as I print for clients generally. I hope that Canon don't go in the same direction stick with the lower MP and make a camera more like the A7S but at around similar mp to the 5DMKIII or 1DX

Just not suitable for commercial work, wedding, event and advertising photography is where 90% of pros make their living, including myself. Again wedding photography is the most data intensive which is where my point has come from.

But its maybe because your shooting habits differ from mine and you don't have to have that safety net.

2 TB drives cost 70 euro, that is less what i have spend in a month for film.
harddrive space should not be a problem, especially not for a working pro.

i backup to 4 hard drives for each of the 3 storage drives in my PC (automatically to a NAS and a second PC).
then i have a sharkoon docking station to do extra backups to harddisks i store offline.

harddrive cost is nothing i worry about... as i have not worried about film cost.

processing power... well when i do the surface blur filter i will sure hate a 50 MP file. :)
but then, i keep my systems up to date.

but of course when someone spends 1000$ on a tripod, or 2000$ on a lens but still works with a 3 year old celeron, he should think about upgrading his PC too.
at least when he wants to edit 30+ MP files.  ;)

and let´s not forget, MF owners have to deal with such kind of data for a while.

Were not talking about the same thing you are working with consumer grade hardware, 3-4 drives of 2TB, I'm talking back ups of 15TB per year over a 5 year span not 15TB total, you don't just add another drive as and when you need it you have to have some sort of contingency and then double it for a safe backup. Im talking rackable server grade systems.


Thats £7000 worth of back up storage on its own, to me thats not a small amount of money and if you overlooking this respect is a huge mistake and can ruin a photographers reputation if the worst should happen. Add a decent machine and 2 high quality colour correct monitors and you are easily looking at £15000 for the set up. Pros need proper storage solutions that large data is accessible quickly without a lot of small little raid drives knocking around, or spreading data across an old PC or random drives. These are very expensive, when your dealing with someones wedding and memories you need to ensure its safe incase of unforeseen events. If you don't take it seriously you shouldn't take on the responsibility.

That storage will only last 2 years with at 50mp with a commercial event and wedding photographer. With a camera with half the output your effectively doubling your timescale and saving money and still delivering incredible quality with the 5DMKIII.

Medium format isn't really suited to wedding work, the cameras are slow, heavy and expensive. Although not unheard of MF isn't overly popular in the professional event photography. The likelihood of a photographer shooting 1500 frames per wedding is fairly slim with MF. Medium format is much more suited to Landscape work and no chance they are shooting anywhere near that amount of data per shoot, its not just the data of one image import 1500 50mp files into lightroom and see how long it takes for it to create previews… good luck with that! Which is why full frame cameras are much more suited, smaller files, smaller system, high quality.

This is one of the reasons a lot of wedding photographers who picked up the D800 switched to the 5DMKIII after it came down in price, Data! It sounds ridiculous but it really is one of the biggest factors when you need to manage peoples events.


Is a 50mp camera really going to improve your work

As you kind of wrote yourself that´s not the question.

You wrote you are happy with the 5D output.
Do you think the amateur gear freak in this forum need a 1DX for their Flickr images?
They could stop photographing tomorrow and start knitting.
They don´t NEED better gear. :)

Even most PRO, who want better gear would (still) do absolutely fine with a 5D MKII or 1Ds when they know their job.

Those PROS who need billboard size prints will buy MF.
They don´t talk for days on internet forums about DR and MP.

But when Canon wants my money, wants me to spend money for a new camera i don´t really need ;) ..... i expect more then what it offers today.

It does matter, because the sensor of the camera is only one part of the mix. You have to think about the costs to store data safely and efficiently, not only that have a machine that can deal with loading the images quickly for efficient workflow for PP. The outlay cost of the lenses and camera being probably 3-8k depending on what you buy for the sony system but and lack of lenses currently means a lower outlay, then 10-15k on a rig and storage solution that guarantees that safety + another storage solution off site, then continuous cost to upgrade memory burning through 15TB a year gets costly. As a pro these costs concern me and people forgot about the bigger picture. Those hidden costs are double the outlay for the new gear. But its maybe because your shooting habits differ from mine and you don't have to have that safety net.

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