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wicki..yeah the manual setting would be good though Auto ISO I think is the only option there true?

Those colored lights can (and have) ruined a lot of good concert shots.  Whenever possible I try and avoid as many red light shots as possible wheras green and blue are manageable.  Here's two taken on the 7D with the 70-300 L IS USM lens last fall.  Both hand held and a good distance from the stage (about 100+ feet).

On the Strawbs (Dave Cousins) photo settings were:  1/40, F5, 214mm, ISO 3200 Manual White Balance.  The 1/40 was a bit too low at certain times as to be expected when artist had more movement.  As wicki mentioned 1/100 would be good but not slower than 1/60

The Zombies (Colin Blunstone) setting were:  1/30, F 5.6, 300mm, IS 3200, Manual White Balance.

Post processing done in DPP.

If you don't mind some criticism.. These shots are a good starting point but it seems your subjects torsos and anything that is not skin get lost in the background. I would suggest maybe finding a part of the background that is lit differently to pull your subjects out. they are also a bit on the cooler side of wb. it also may be nice to get shots from another angle. If your using auto iso then you may as well be using Av or Tv. I personally never trust auto iso, although that is just preference. I also wouldn't be too afraid of reds and stronger colors as you can use them as an effect in your shots when handled properly in framing and exposure.
For the shots that are slower than 100th/s i make sure to take anywhere from 2-4 shots in burst of the same shot to helps my chances of getting the shots.
Just my 2 cents. =-)

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Nice shot!

I'm actually getting ready tonight to (try) to shoot a concert in a VERY small venue. Not sure what lighting will be...etc.

I have a 5D3, but only one lens I have is very fast my 85mm 1.8.

I have a 17-40mm L f/4, and the kit 24-105mm f/4 L lenses.

Any advice for trying to get some good useable shots?

I'm needing to learn how to do like you did, in particular with lighting in the back...how do you go about metering and setting exposure so that I don't get all silloettes?

I'm planning to try to shoot manual....with maybe some apeture priority....

Advice/Suggestions?

TIA,

cayenne

shoot manual keep your shutter at 1/100 if possible at f1.8 or f2 your are probably going to be in the iso 4000 to iso 8000 range tweek your iso to suit if its really dark you might need 12800

the 17-40 at f4 you would probably need to be at 1/50 and 25600 iso but subject motion might be an issue at such a slow shutter speed

i was shooting f2.8 with the 16-35 at 12800

dont be afraid of a little highlight clipping as you can recover that but make sure you are not under exposing your subjects

forget aperture priority it will not be good

 I agree with many of you points. But i shot the entire job without any improperly exposed shots. where as the lighting changes you may become too overexposed to recover. Don't forget these cameras do far better recovering shadows than highlights. If it seems the lighting is pretty constant then shoot manual. If not then i would recommend Av. Definitely do not be afraid shooting iso 12800 on the 5D mkIII as the images are amazingly useable. I would recommend using the 24-105 also because it has IS and hand shake will be greatly reduced.

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Results from my first week with the 5D3
« on: June 30, 2012, 12:15:59 PM »
love the colors and shallow dog in shot 2. Great stuff!

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#1 his face is too little exposed. #2 the mic hides his face. #3 too much flare. #4 need more colur, more saturation.
The laste one is nice, but you may crop it somewhat..
Sorry for .......


I appreciate you critique. I personally like the shadow on the face in #1 and the effect of it was more focused on the lighting and flare. #2 i wanted this shot as it is kinda of interesting/off-putting with the combination of the look on his face and the mic covering his nose. #3 i agree. lots of flare but matter of opinion on how much is used. but i still appreciate your input. #4 i feel would make the flare too strong and apparent if there was more saturation since the entire shots has a green overlay. #5 i liked the idea of having the singer suspended in empty space. and i wanted to keep the aspect ratio the same. But your thought are something to think about as a customer may have different opinions then mine. the rest of the of the shots are here: http://www.stockhammedia.com/photo/concert-photography-album-1/ if your interested =-)

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Nice shot!

I'm actually getting ready tonight to (try) to shoot a concert in a VERY small venue. Not sure what lighting will be...etc.

I have a 5D3, but only one lens I have is very fast my 85mm 1.8.

I have a 17-40mm L f/4, and the kit 24-105mm f/4 L lenses.

Any advice for trying to get some good useable shots?

I'm needing to learn how to do like you did, in particular with lighting in the back...how do you go about metering and setting exposure so that I don't get all silloettes?

I'm planning to try to shoot manual....with maybe some apeture priority....

Advice/Suggestions?

TIA,

cayenne

I shot aperture priority with 70-200mm at f/2.8 at iso 3200-6400. auto white balance. if there are a lot of tungsten lights then use tungsten white balance. I ended up switching most of my shots to tungsten wb in lightroom. I had to set the exposure compensation -1 stop or else the shot would have been over exposed due to all the black in the background. each shot you focus on take 2- 4 times to bring up your possibility of getting a sharp shot. evaluative metering mode. i would probably rely on your 85mm if it is tight enough as you will really need to push your iso up if you used the 24-105. you could use you 24-105 at 4.0 with "is" turned on and iso 6400-12800. you will still get great shots since the mkIII is SO great with high iso. hope that helps! i didn't have much issue with silhouettes since the black in the background made the camera want to come up in exposure.

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Real Estate Photography 5D mkIII
« on: June 29, 2012, 03:21:42 PM »
are these for fun or commercial?

the HDR is not good, halos colour shifts etc
tell tale fuzziness and loss of IQ from photomatix rendering

 :-\

what would you use instead of photomatics?

Try the HDR built into the recent Canon DPP update. The good thing is it's free, and you can easily do some subtle looking HDR with presets. DPP certainly has it's critics on this site, but I keep going back to it for some basic edits and RAW conversions.

I will definitely try that. I know lots of people frown on dpp. but i like to use whatever works =-)



I can't recommend HDR for Commercial Real Estate photos. I prefer flash as it looks more natural and pleasing that HDR, Which always has lots of grey tones.

You also want to represent the house as accurately as possible within reason.

I'll do that for certain customers, but so far this company has been always wanting HDR specifically. I appreciate your input!

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Real Estate Photography 5D mkIII
« on: June 29, 2012, 03:01:12 PM »
I also forgot to mension that the I added the sky and clouds in. It was a super quite job which is what explains the halos.

Awesome shots by the way. Heavy HDR. But looks really nice. Thanks for sharing.

how does quite explain halos?  doesn't really make any sense to me.

Cause when i masked part of the sky out i didn't get tight on the house. it's a larger brush. thus you see a halo around the house where the real sky meets the new sky. those are very large halos that are very visible.

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i agree =-) love old stuff =-)

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All of them are at this link: http://www.stockhammedia.com/photo/concert-photography-album-1/
All posted here are 5D mkIII with Canon 70-200 2.8 non-is. a few in this album on my site are 60d and the really wide stuff is t2i. Let me now what you think! my first concert stuff. Difficult lighting










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EOS Bodies / Re: My 5D mkIII AWB is Warm - Help
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:14:17 PM »
I only got my 5D3 a couple of weeks ago, but I am also finding that the images are a little warm even with shots taken outside in the shade.
No problem with shots taken in sunlight or using flash though.
Not a big deal to correct in RAW for a few shots here and there, but it will be when I take it for jobs where I have to work on 500+ photos!
+1 exactly. So I'm not the only one then

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EOS Bodies / Re: My 5D mkIII AWB is Warm - Help
« on: June 27, 2012, 03:42:37 PM »
The issue wasn't only in the mixed light situation. Every shot from the 60D was very well balanced and every shot from the 5d mkiii very warm. it's been always. I've just felt that it was too warm. Yes it is very easy to fix in lightroom and i do. but for the few times i like to shoot jpg it would be nice to not be so warm. i would just leave the wb shift on blue/green tones but the problem is that the camera isn't always too warm. just more often then not. this isn't a problem i've had with my 60D T2i or 40D which is why i am a bit confused. there are definitely times the 60D is off. but it doesn't have the general and very often too warm of my mkiii. if nobody else has this issue then i will just send the camera in for light leak and have them check too see if anything is wrong with anything that could be causing warm colors.

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EOS Bodies / My 5D mkIII AWB is Warm - Help
« on: June 27, 2012, 03:20:55 AM »
I'll start with I have been loving my mkIII. I started on the t2i, then got the 60d as main cam now 5d mkIII i recently shot a band performance that had lots of mixed lighting. I was shooting mkIII with canon 70-200 2.8 non-is and t2i with tokina 11-16 2.8. My partner was shooting my 60D with sigma 70-200 2.8 os. All 3 where on awe and the t2i and 60d nailed the white balance while the mkiii was all too warm. i took the RAWs into Adobe CR7 and set the WB to tungsten and is was perfect. i don't have a problem with shooting different wb presets. but it would be nice to have it perform better on auto. the wb shift was 0:0 so thats not the problem. I've just noticed it's warmth in many places and am not sure what to do about. I would like to be able to shoot awb. especially when moving from place to place.

Is this an issue other people are having? If so do you think it could be fixed in firmware? Should i send it in? Could it be due to light leak (mine is pre-light leak fix and haven't sent it in yet)?

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Real Estate Photography 5D mkIII
« on: June 24, 2012, 12:41:53 PM »
I also forgot to mension that the I added the sky and clouds in. It was a super quite job which is what explains the halos.

Awesome shots by the way. Heavy HDR. But looks really nice. Thanks for sharing.

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I can't think of any more options to add...

How about, "I'm not getting a 5DIII because I'm getting a 1D X instead"?
+3 ;D

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Real Estate Photography 5D mkIII
« on: June 20, 2012, 12:55:31 AM »
are these for fun or commercial?

the HDR is not good, halos colour shifts etc
tell tale fuzziness and loss of IQ from photomatix rendering

 :-\

what would you use instead of photomatics?

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