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Well, I would disagree as far as getting lost in the background.  Background (as the word implies) is not as important as the subject matter (foreground).
The background is not really important. What is important is your subject being separate from the background to be able to distinguish your subject properly. Otherwise you just have a head and two arms floating in the blackness.

I did bring a WhiBal Pro white balance 18% gray card for White correction so what you see is matched with that card. (note EXIF is listed "custom" for white balance.)
WB gray cards can produce off images when using custom WB. so that would explain why it looks  on the cooler side. Custom WB just means AWB based on the gray card shot but is applied to all other images with custom WB. This leaves room for error on the cameras side.

There are more shots on my site in this album if you want to check them out. they have fewer flares and mics in peoples faces. I just posted these since they seem to have some more character. http://www.stockhammedia.com/photo/concert-photography-album-1/

And i'm really not trying to bash your shots and i more than understand that there are some tight situations where you have very little control. That usually means no-so-great shots. i would recommend doing some post to bring out the torsos of your subjects and maybe warm them up just a bit. and i am on a brand new 27" iMac which is know for it's incredible image quality and color rendition. so I'm pretty sure i'm seeing these images properly.

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Graduation with 5D mkIII
« on: July 06, 2012, 02:09:51 AM »
Spoof pic I had my girl take of me with my mk3 on my doctoral graduation 2 months ago...

nice

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 5D mkIII Poll
« on: July 05, 2012, 01:27:28 PM »
I answered Other, as I think it is just a great all-around camera.
The IQ is terrific, the focus fast and accurate and it handles everything I have put to it so far extremely well.

I don't think there is really any other camera that can compare to it for a "compact" DSLR, IMHO, that is so good at virtually anything you'd want a camera to do.

I agree with your points completely

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Real Estate Photography 5D mkIII
« on: July 04, 2012, 05:51:06 PM »
@Cgdillan

I use the Photomatix plugin for Aperture.

do you know if there is a difference in the way it handles images in aperture vs standalone? do you do 3 shot brackets?

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Real Estate Photography 5D mkIII
« on: July 04, 2012, 05:26:15 PM »
joelerskates - what are you using to process?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Another 5D mkIII Poll
« on: July 04, 2012, 11:18:17 AM »
Actually, yes I'm one of those guys naming something not on the official poll, I love the Multi-Exposure and HDR features on the 5D Mark III.  I used them heavily last night doing night street photography.  You can shoot a ME mode of a stop light with all 6 bulbs lit up in one photo if you shoot 4 shots at 90 degree angle to the light: (Green/Red, Yellow/Red, Red/Green, Red/Yellow) and into one final image.  I didn't have time to get the exposure correct for each color, but I'm going back tomorrow to perfect it.

Thanks =-) sweet shot btw. good idea. i just added multiple exposure and HDR to the poll =-)

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EOS Bodies / Another 5D mkIII Poll
« on: July 04, 2012, 11:09:54 AM »
Just curious =-)

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Nah, this poll sucked that's the only thing gathered here.
+1

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wicki..yeah the manual setting would be good though Auto ISO I think is the only option there true?

Those colored lights can (and have) ruined a lot of good concert shots.  Whenever possible I try and avoid as many red light shots as possible wheras green and blue are manageable.  Here's two taken on the 7D with the 70-300 L IS USM lens last fall.  Both hand held and a good distance from the stage (about 100+ feet).

On the Strawbs (Dave Cousins) photo settings were:  1/40, F5, 214mm, ISO 3200 Manual White Balance.  The 1/40 was a bit too low at certain times as to be expected when artist had more movement.  As wicki mentioned 1/100 would be good but not slower than 1/60

The Zombies (Colin Blunstone) setting were:  1/30, F 5.6, 300mm, IS 3200, Manual White Balance.

Post processing done in DPP.

If you don't mind some criticism.. These shots are a good starting point but it seems your subjects torsos and anything that is not skin get lost in the background. I would suggest maybe finding a part of the background that is lit differently to pull your subjects out. they are also a bit on the cooler side of wb. it also may be nice to get shots from another angle. If your using auto iso then you may as well be using Av or Tv. I personally never trust auto iso, although that is just preference. I also wouldn't be too afraid of reds and stronger colors as you can use them as an effect in your shots when handled properly in framing and exposure.
For the shots that are slower than 100th/s i make sure to take anywhere from 2-4 shots in burst of the same shot to helps my chances of getting the shots.
Just my 2 cents. =-)

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Nice shot!

I'm actually getting ready tonight to (try) to shoot a concert in a VERY small venue. Not sure what lighting will be...etc.

I have a 5D3, but only one lens I have is very fast my 85mm 1.8.

I have a 17-40mm L f/4, and the kit 24-105mm f/4 L lenses.

Any advice for trying to get some good useable shots?

I'm needing to learn how to do like you did, in particular with lighting in the back...how do you go about metering and setting exposure so that I don't get all silloettes?

I'm planning to try to shoot manual....with maybe some apeture priority....

Advice/Suggestions?

TIA,

cayenne

shoot manual keep your shutter at 1/100 if possible at f1.8 or f2 your are probably going to be in the iso 4000 to iso 8000 range tweek your iso to suit if its really dark you might need 12800

the 17-40 at f4 you would probably need to be at 1/50 and 25600 iso but subject motion might be an issue at such a slow shutter speed

i was shooting f2.8 with the 16-35 at 12800

dont be afraid of a little highlight clipping as you can recover that but make sure you are not under exposing your subjects

forget aperture priority it will not be good

 I agree with many of you points. But i shot the entire job without any improperly exposed shots. where as the lighting changes you may become too overexposed to recover. Don't forget these cameras do far better recovering shadows than highlights. If it seems the lighting is pretty constant then shoot manual. If not then i would recommend Av. Definitely do not be afraid shooting iso 12800 on the 5D mkIII as the images are amazingly useable. I would recommend using the 24-105 also because it has IS and hand shake will be greatly reduced.

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Results from my first week with the 5D3
« on: June 30, 2012, 12:15:59 PM »
love the colors and shallow dog in shot 2. Great stuff!

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#1 his face is too little exposed. #2 the mic hides his face. #3 too much flare. #4 need more colur, more saturation.
The laste one is nice, but you may crop it somewhat..
Sorry for .......

I appreciate you critique. I personally like the shadow on the face in #1 and the effect of it was more focused on the lighting and flare. #2 i wanted this shot as it is kinda of interesting/off-putting with the combination of the look on his face and the mic covering his nose. #3 i agree. lots of flare but matter of opinion on how much is used. but i still appreciate your input. #4 i feel would make the flare too strong and apparent if there was more saturation since the entire shots has a green overlay. #5 i liked the idea of having the singer suspended in empty space. and i wanted to keep the aspect ratio the same. But your thought are something to think about as a customer may have different opinions then mine. the rest of the of the shots are here: http://www.stockhammedia.com/photo/concert-photography-album-1/ if your interested =-)

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Nice shot!

I'm actually getting ready tonight to (try) to shoot a concert in a VERY small venue. Not sure what lighting will be...etc.

I have a 5D3, but only one lens I have is very fast my 85mm 1.8.

I have a 17-40mm L f/4, and the kit 24-105mm f/4 L lenses.

Any advice for trying to get some good useable shots?

I'm needing to learn how to do like you did, in particular with lighting in the back...how do you go about metering and setting exposure so that I don't get all silloettes?

I'm planning to try to shoot manual....with maybe some apeture priority....

Advice/Suggestions?

TIA,

cayenne

I shot aperture priority with 70-200mm at f/2.8 at iso 3200-6400. auto white balance. if there are a lot of tungsten lights then use tungsten white balance. I ended up switching most of my shots to tungsten wb in lightroom. I had to set the exposure compensation -1 stop or else the shot would have been over exposed due to all the black in the background. each shot you focus on take 2- 4 times to bring up your possibility of getting a sharp shot. evaluative metering mode. i would probably rely on your 85mm if it is tight enough as you will really need to push your iso up if you used the 24-105. you could use you 24-105 at 4.0 with "is" turned on and iso 6400-12800. you will still get great shots since the mkIII is SO great with high iso. hope that helps! i didn't have much issue with silhouettes since the black in the background made the camera want to come up in exposure.

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