Fixed that for you
To say that sensor has nothing to do with IQ is folly.
To be clear, I wasn't saying that.
My apologies, I should have been clearer. I suspected that wasn't what you were saying.
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Fixed that for you
To say that sensor has nothing to do with IQ is folly.
To be clear, I wasn't saying that.
If they all have the same level of input, then yes.
Which belies the notion that IQ is a sensor property. It is about much more than JUST the sensor. It is about input, signal chain, and post.
Edit: Did some posts about giving improper credits just get lost? I wanted to comment on them, stating that I disagree - but now I cannot find it anymore. Strange.
I don't know anything about this, but I keep hearing the point & shoot segment is shrinking due to smart phones having good cameras that do stills and video. Makes sense to me given how most people react to photography.
The issue seems more redundancy than perceived camera quality or versatility. I don't think people buy smart phones for their cameras although they may play some role in deciding which specific smart phone to buy -- phone vs phone, not phone vs point & shoot camera. The smart phone is the desirable object so it gets acquired. And once you have it you pay $1000 or more per year to operate it. Most folks aren't committed enough to photography to add more expense with a dedicated small camera. Why buy a separate thing if it only does what the phone will do? The photographer community can argue better image quality, increased versatility, etc., but most people don't care that much. The phone gets a picture -- instantly they can send it electronically to friends & family. Even a point & shoot with WIFI is going to be dependent on a WIFI connection so it may not be instant gratification. If they want a print they can go to Walgreen's or CVS and get one for five or 10 cents. Hell, even the cheapie little "portrait studios" at Walmart and Sears are shutting down.
For several reasons, photography one of them, I used to carry a small compass. Now I have one in my smart phone so I'm not buying a compass anymore. Redundancy. There was a time I carried a small reference book with lots of photography info -- DOF guides, ASA (ISO) info, flash guides, a gray card, etc. I don't consider buying such guides today because all that, and much more, is in my phone (well, not the gray card, I guess!). Redundancy. I see and hear a trend toward younger people not using wristwatches -- their phones give the correct time. Redundancy. I've even stopped wearing a wristwatch most of the time. I also often carried a stopwatch, especially for sport events -- my phone does that now. Redundancy. The greatest stopwatch/watch/compass/etc. ever made for a smart phone has no influence on whether I buy any of those objects individually. They get the job done in the phone, and that's all I care about.
Anecdotally, I just don't see people using point & shoot cameras anymore. I see either smart phones or bridge/DSLR cameras.
I actually think "banning" someone is itself kind of childish and needs to be reserved for extreme cases.
I think the exact opposite. I encourage the mods to set high standards, tolerate little, warn quickly, oust almost as quickly. Send 'em back to their mums for some retraining.
Friendly forums, like CanonRumors and almost any photographers' community, should be filled with over-the-top friendliness, courtesy, support and a generally happy vibe. It needs to be over-the-top sugar sweet (but genuine) because written comms is terribly poor at getting nuance and intent right, we are not all Charlotte Brontë, so there really is no place for any sort of put-downs, sarcasm, or hostility, because even writers with no ill intent will find themselves posting things that look like they do have ill intent, or at least like they lack good will. Give up the subtlety, be really friendly.
Also, I don't see any '18+' box to tick before entering the site, so we can assume children are welcome here. I would certainly LOVE to think any young person male or female with an interest in photography, would feel comfortable browsing and learning here, and unafraid to post -- and not feel it is necessary to announce one's age first to avoid being bullied.
So please, find your happy space first before posting here, and try to be part of building something fun and open-armed to all. And if that thought makes you feel sick in your stomach and tempted to post sugary sarcasm, maybe just park that post and stick to reading, or get up and do something off the computer.
why f8? Could use f5.6
why ISO 200? using f5.6, you can use iso100
light is a bit on the harsh side, due to time of day and altitude (guessing). Consider a circular polarizer or a variable nd filter or ideally own both.
I have both the 5D mk III and the Nikon D800. The Canon is great at low light, and is a perfect camera for gigs with its real silent shutter. The Nikon has great DR. End of. I shoot mainly landscapes, so I want good low ISO performance. The mk III forces me to use noise reduction at ISO 100 - 400. This is a terminal disease for me, so I don't use the mmiii for very much at all now. The mk III is dead in the water as far as I am concerned because of the noise banding in shadows.
You must have a bad 5DIII, for my landscapes it's been quite amazing and the appalling Nikon Live view effort puts me off any Nikon DSLR for landscape work. The D800 might have less banding and slightly more DR, but bracketing and digital blending is still required for high contrast imagery. If you are using NR on your 5DIII, then I would suggest your camera is out of spec, are using poor metering technique or you are rushing your landscape work. If you are pulling so much out of the shadows, then there is obviously a meeting issue or you are cutting courners with your bracketing and blending.
This image below, I combined the foreground and sky exposures into one image, I had to wait for the sun to kiss the foreground but the sun position was then wrong. So taking the two images created a better photo and one which looks balanced for exposure and has a stong visual feel. The difference between 30+ and 20+ mp is mute here and I get to utilise the camera's low 100 iso virtues because the 2 source images were taken using the camera's optimal performance.
Nikon suffered from that until some younger blood finally got to the top. The trouble is, they also need to make a profit. Innovative ideas do not keep a company in business if they don't turn a profit.
Nikon is building a giant plant in Laos to open this fall, apparently hoping to ultimately get their costs down. They also (I think) understand that the warmer weather means more floods and they need to have plan(t) B. I hope it works out for them, lower prices are certainly welcome, and Canon is in the drivers seat right now as far as cost of production is concerned. They drop prices and still make a nice profit.
Great analysis. One reason Nikon has problems with profits is they tried too hard to displace Canon as market leader. But Nikon must also improve their quality control. Obviously, their standard has taken quite a hit recently with the D800 left side misfocus and D600 sensor debris problems...
I think Nikon has far worse issues than a few tech bugs. Their last generation of DSLR's all robbed each other's sales and divided their own markets...a sure sign of a panic with their pro cameras. The D700 totally divided the D3 sales. Who would buy a D3 after a D700 was launched? Practically the same specs for half the size and cost...lol. Nikon was so desperate to grab market share they lost their long term perspective. When the next batch of cameras came out, the D4 wasn't properly shaken down and has had loads of tech issues. The D800 isn't the same genre/spec division of the D700 which has really peaved off a lot of Nikon shooters. Many Pro photographers (whom Nikon were courting) ditch Canon, sold a lot of kit and re-invested in Nikon glass...only to find that the next round Nikon wanted them to buy D4's at a huge price increase over the D800. Most of those pros looked at the D800 and considered it to have inappropriate specs. The very reason for them to consider Nikon (low mp, hish iso and the best AF in the business) were no longer valid and many have quietly gone back to Canon. While the D800 is a very innovative camera, it's not right for the buying market it's in. Nikon needed a true D700 replacement and hasn't delivered. The 5DIII is easily the most versatile DSLR ever made and the new ex 600 rt flash is simply the best flash gun ever made. Nikon have seriously upset their user base and handed the game back to Canon. If I was a Canon to Nikon switcher...I certainly wouldn't trust Nikon again.
I'm only 23 and I wasn't around 20 years when people tell me Jessops for more for the professional photographer as well as enthusiasts. Currently it is easy to tell from looking in their shops their market is now the enthusiast. Their sales assistants are of a similar breed to those found in large technology stores such as PC World, Comet and now in administration Curries and Dixons.
The same process has happened to the outdoor leisure shops - their main focus is the middle section of the market - it is more profitable to sell 500x £250 cameras a year than 50x £2000 products.
I must say London Camera Exchange is very different and a much better place to buy as even their sales assistants have a genuine interest in photography.
I think also the presence of online shops drive the higher margins found in places like Jessops to pay for unit rent and staff salaries which in turn puts off professional photographers due to markup on products. It's a shame but something that is only going to continue into the future.
I'm now told that jessops are looking into home printing solutions - canvas etc a way to keep turning profit.
Thanks for all your thoughts.
Whilst I was very excited by the zeiss i went with the canon. It was a lens I have wanted for a long time, and I haven't even looked into the zeiss very much because I just always assumed Id never have one. So i went with what i had researched most. Plus i got the guy to know an extra £20 off, chuck in postage. And it has filters, and its weathersealed. So im happy. I think :s lol.
The best thing about both lens' is that they both hold their value so well. So if I practise manual focus on this, if i decide i prefer the colour or the slightly wider feel of the zeiss I can always sell it and buy a zeiss if the opportunity comes up again i guess!
Thanks again. I love that I can always count on this forumn for some input.