Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: Can we all send a complaint to Canon to fix the AF-Assist focusing on the 5D3?« on: December 11, 2012, 06:42:35 PM »
beam me up ScottyP that was funny
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However, I just ordered an eBay steal deal on a 6D for $1899 from theimagingworld (fingers crossed) and I will try to informally compare the two bodies (5D3 vs. 6D) after it arrives. Oh, and I don't plan on divulging what I think "0" EV is either!! I'm going to use completely subjective comparisons like 'better', 'worse' and maybe even 'pudding' or 'furry'. So there! (And just in case, please know I am kidding around because that 0 EV thing on the other post really did teach me a lot about EV and sharing informal test results with this forum.)
Canon technical support told me that the AF assist beam is not supported with this combination (5D3 and 600ex)
I'm still trying to get over this. I may have to call Canon myself.
I think there is some credence to your argument. I just hope that if they do the firmware, we do not lose accuracy to any great degree. The mark 2 is pretty well 99% accuracy when using the center spot with af
assist...so this should be doable with the new camera. I am so confident at receptions with the old camera that
I frequent just point the camera at a group of people I want to capture without even looking thru the viewfinder.
IMO, that's the way it SHOULD BE with a new $3000 camera. High confidence in the results and be able to just point in the general direction over your head sometimes and expect a decent in focus picture.
Lol, don't label me a socialist just because I am unhappy with the recent price increases from Canon (including their lenses) :-). My point was simply that the camera was initially overpriced and the significant price drops only months after introduction confirm my observation.
...Now, I don't imply that companies should satisfy the (reasonable) expectations because they have social obligations or because of sheer kindness. No, they do that to stay competitive, because a bad reputation would kill the profits in the long run. As you said, unhappy customers vote with their wallets, at least in theory.bingo. I really don't think you and I are far apart on these points.
... But you seem to indicate that we have no rights even to complain and must put up with any crap that Canon chooses to throw our way, because it's OK that they only care about their profit and not about their customers.I"m not saying we don't have the rights to complain; I am saying it won't be individually effective and that Canon has the right to do choose what they listen too. Unfortunately, to a large degree yes we are at the mercy of the market and Canon's interpretation of it. Thank goodness for internet forums, to be sure, to the extent that they help Canon read and react to the market, and allow Canon to more clearly see defects and other customer issues, details, etc. For example, I suspect the f/8 AF fix was a reaction to market demand, and that their original strategy was to push the market towards more expensive glass. just my opinon of course, but it looks like competition and information from real photographers was an influence, for which I am thrilled.
I think we're talking about Canon here and not the grey market or retailers' trimming their own markups. Displayed prices for the 5D3 have been reduced on the order of 10% in recent months. Current price from the best known retailers is down about 15%. That flash-in-the-pan $2700 abberation is fascinating, to be sure, and I agree that a great many folks wish they had played that game.
On a side note, it's more than a 10% increase. It's a hefty 30% over the initial price of 5DII ($3500 vs $2700). At that rate, Mark V is going to cost close to $6000.
Don't get me wrong, I am not penny-pinching. I overpaid a couple of hundred more than once, when I needed the lens right away. I had no regrets and I did not complain. But that was different. It was a market fluctuation, while this seems like a strategy from Canon to boost its profits at the expense of their customers.
...I did have a chance to play with 6D outside parking lot, behind business building, around 7PM westcoast. It was quite dark and the light sources were street lights. I compared to my 5D III and I didn't see the advantage of 6D has to offer in term of -3EV AF center point. Maybe it wasn't dark enough? I shot with my 24-70 f2.8 II lens at f2.8. The outer points were bit slower though.
Thanks for the results. I'm considering upgrading from a 7D. How does the 7D compare in these tests? Does anybody know? I'm sure there have been similar tests done between 7D and 5D2/3?