« on: September 24, 2012, 02:51:13 PM »
caution is good, me thinks. my thought is that one shouldn't pre-order this puppy without seeing some test results. who knows it might be stunning or it might be lackluster
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You guys do realize your complaining about 1/20th of a second difference between the D600 and 6D, right? That is 0.0005 seconds difference! It really doesn't matter that much, and given the design of the 6D as a low-light camera capable of ISO 25600 and AF at EV -3, it matters even less. You could bump up the ISO by a third of a stop for pretty much ANY exposure and compensate for the difference if you really, really needed to. Now, if it was a 1/60th sync speed vs. a 1/200th sync speed, that would matter, but thats not the case.
please stop talking about things you don´t understand!!
ISO affects FLASH and AMBIENT exposure.. it´s obvious you don´t know what strobist are talking about.
yes 1/200s was already bad... doesn´t change a thing that the trend to make it even worse is a bad sign.
I think jrista makes a fair point. I agree that 1/200 s X-sync isn't good, and 1/180 s is worse. But the difference is only 1/6-stop.
OTOH, despite the ISO improvement in recent sensors which would allow you to more than make up that 1/6-stop in terms of noise performance, that's not going to help stop action. That 1/6-stop is well and truly gone.
Aye. I don't disagree that 1/200th isn't great, and neither is 1/250th. But since none of the entry-level full-frame cameras have a 1/500th second sync speed, it doesn't make much sense to complain about a sixth of a stop worth of difference. I wasn't thinking that bumping ISO would help stop action...the flash pulse is for that. I was only thinking if you wanted to compensate for the loss of exposure, you could easily bump ISO without worry on a camera capable of native ISO 25600.
Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.Either that or it's a new crop sensor that will eventually go in the rebels and 70D but starting with FF version first. An even greater level of the technology dropping from top to bottom.
18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1
I may be wrong, but with High Speed Sync on a flash, max sync shutter speed becomes less relevant.
yep you are wrong.
because you need an HSS enabled flash. and even then you will have less power output.
It sure would be great to have one of each!
I'm sure Canon will grant your wish and never produce a "one does it all" camera even if they cold - what's better than a customer buying one camera? Buying two :-)!
Everyone will just wait for the next.
I bet there are thousands checking ebay every now and than, and hoping they'll get THE deal.
Why do you need to check ebay everyday? Just sing up the deal alert from slickdeals.net, and you will get 5D3 deals instantly when there is one. Guys we are living in information age.
So Canon is behind in low-ISO DR and they optimized the 5D3 sensor for high ISO. No one knew that until the D800 came along.
It can be argued that Nikon caught Canon with their 5d3 (and its price) with their pants down. But the depressing thing about the 6d announcement is that Canon had it really coming this time, they knew the competition, they knew the concerns of their enthusiast customer base. And they still ended up just juggling features (1/4000s shutter, 1/180s x-sync, 11 non-cross af) instead of producing a complete camera that can stand the test of time for the next years - at least for $2000+.
... For example, I haven't heard very many wedding/event togs wishing for lower fps, worse AF, or higher MP, and I don't hear many complaints about the 5D3's IQ (including DR) at ISO 3200.
yeah not at ISO3200 at ISO3200 it has very good DR (only 1DX and D4 and D3s are better and the D3s is so much lower res it doesn't really count) it's at ISO100-200 or 400 where the DR is bad. The high iso DR on the 5D3 is better than any camera other than the 1DX and D4 basically.
Quote from: dlleno... For example, I haven't heard very many wedding/event togs wishing for lower fps, worse AF, or higher MP, and I don't hear many complaints about the 5D3's IQ (including DR) at ISO 3200.
I still hear plenty people wishing it had more DR (and MP) and believe it or not, some of them are pros.
It's quite good, but ISO100 DR a trace worse than the old 5D2 and worse than the even older 1Ds3 is kinda unfortunate. But if you think that is awesome, then Canon won't ever bother. So yeah I like it a lot, but yeah I sure often wish it had better DR and when shooting wildlife I sure wish more MP and a crop mode and for video I sure wish it had the basics like zebra and focusing aids while live shooting and raw hdmi out and crop modes for wildlife.
Now that all of Canon's cards are on the table for this year...
the thing about light toys and graveyards is that you must first understand both your needs and the nature of light beore you select the tool. light travels in straight lines so no amount of diffusion will soften the light coming from the strobe itself. a controlled combination of direct vs reflective light is better accomplished with a bounce or partial bounce device insread of tupoerware imho.And what is a bounce device? Obviously ceilings and walls are your best bounce devices as they'll always be bigger than what you can get on a camera. In which case the tupperware works pretty. Don't get me wrong it's far from perfect and I'm always looking for alternatives but it's the best I've found so far. One thing I will say is that I've tested just shooting the straight flash up into a ceiling vs with the tupperware and I liked the look of the tupperware better. But one advantage of shooting directly off the ceiling is the balance in light level between near objects and far objects is improved somewhat since less light is being directed straight forward. For this reason I'm looking at trying out this technique some more.