I really doubt Canon won't take the advantage of a firmware update to try to market it as an AF improvement and then leave it as an unquantifiable statement about improved AF.
It is funny how many people knew this would be a stinker before it saw the inside of a showroom. 1st gen is not an excuse - I would have fired the people who let a subpar product see light of day. We are too kind to these people and show way too much loyalty.
I have been on the sidelines with my Rebel Xsi because I am a casual photographer and don't need this equipment to earn my living. I will continue to wait one more cycle to see if Canon can fix AF issues with the Rebel, M series or the 6D and not keep making silly mistakes (one point AF on 6D) - if the next product does not deliver then I guess Sony or Nikon will be getting my money.
Windows Vista? (contrast win7pro)
Pretty much any 1st gen system or serious overhaul to a previous system.
All had serious flaws that is caused by 1st gen syndrome, compare 2nd gen products to these and its obvious of they're flaws. I never adopt 1st gen products.
Would you consider Sony RX1 is 1st gen of FF in compact body? Took over 1k photos with RX1, I didn't see any issues yet? including AF speed
You said "I never adopt 1st gen products", I thought you had 5D C before 5D III? and what about your all time fav 135L?
Well yes. DPreview even agrees the RX1 has its flaws and so have other indie reviews. Like the the first IPhone, its ludicrously over priced.
I never adopted the 5Dc at release, I bought it well into the mk2 era. The 135L had its optical base in the FD 135mm, and improved on that design. Great product.
Also I own a d30 but why does that matter?
What flaws on RX1? Being the ONLY kid on the block, I don't blame Sony for pricing this camera at $2800. This is the only FF camera desgined in compact body for less than $3000, not to mention, a Carl Zeiss f2 lens is included.
To me...5D C is considered as 1st gen FF digital, regardless when you buy it.
Do you know the diff btw FD135 Vs 135L?
Why that matter? You bought and used 1st gen product(s), but you claimed that you never adopt 1st gen products. Don't you think that was little B.S?
Just like iPhone 1, so is the Sony RX1. Alone on the block but flawed anyway. Read DPreviews cons list for me.
The 5Dc was first gen, like the EOS-M. Neither of which I have/had any desire to purchase when released. I purchased the 5Dc when it was already obsolete from MK2. No BS, perhaps you mis-understand the context of this thread & comment wrong.
Sure the 135L has many improvements over its FD version, just like the 50mm 1.4 does.
RLPhoto, you are very twisty!!!
So now...5D III is out, would that make 5DC no longer 1st gen camera?
Any there any perfect camera(s) out there? with no cons?
AND NOW, you telling me that I mis-understood this thread & gave wrong comment.
How many times have I typed that yes, the 5Dc is a first gen camera and has many many flaws but I never bought it at release for the full asked price when it was the only option.
The thread states that the EOS M AF cannot be fixed with firmware. No surprise, because its a first gen product it will have all these flaws that cannot be fixed by firmware. Just like said 5Dc. But I never adopted products until Gen 2 was released. Simpy because gen2 will be better and gen1 will be a lot cheaper. Like iPhone 1 and iPhone 3G.
I can guarantee when RX-2 is released, I'll be able to buy a used RX-1 for half of what you paid or just get the fixed RX-2.