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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Crazy... go Nikon?
« on: April 02, 2013, 11:18:46 PM »
Aglet, how about you provide us a beautiful RAW file that you spend time, effort, and possibly money to get first? Please do show us the very best d800 RAW file of you very best work and then I promise I will do the same.

It must be your best, no less.

how about something easier, you show us some 100 iso test shots from your 5d2.... if you still have it.
Blank sheet of white paper, exposed at 1 EV values from +4 to -10, no Lum or Chroma NR, black level crusher set to ZERO, pushed in ACR or LR, until visible banding appears at 100%
Show us what EV levels you no longer get FPN.
Do and post that, then I'll do the same with a $400 Nikon.
OK, you go'head and do yours.  We're waiting. :)

Just like your avatar, you spoke first and loudly. How can you expect of others w/o you doing the same first? Give us your best work out of the d800 and Ill try to match one of equal caliber out of my canon camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 02, 2013, 10:39:36 PM »
2000$ for 6D or 2375$ for a Refurbed MK3? You all are quibbling for the 500$ difference from the 5D2 to the 6D, which is minimal gains, while from the 6D to the 5D3 is day-night difference.  ???

Seriously man, I know you're completely prejudice against the 6D and too stubborn to admit you're wrong, but you're posts might hold more merit if you didn't shuffle around the numbers to try to support your points.

It's an opinion based on a 6D rental and the numbers I've already posted. Here's a snap from CL for that lens price.

If a friend said, "I'm going FF soon and ill be needing some glass too" I wouldn't recommend a 6D at the moment, perhaps if it was 1500$ body only brand new, but that make the excellent 5d2 around 1000-1200 at that point.

It should have had all the points cross type. Even the rebel has that now.

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Lenses / Re: New or Refurbished Lens?
« on: April 02, 2013, 06:11:54 PM »
Refurb's to me are a freebie savings. Why not? Unless its grey market. :|

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Wait for the canon 5D3 refurb sale to return with the 2300$ pricing. If you love the AF performance of the 7D, you will hate the 5D2/6D.

+50mm 1.8
+100mm F/2
+Wide angle of choice.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13301.0

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 02, 2013, 05:58:55 PM »
2000$ for 6D or 2375$ for a Refurbed MK3? You all are quibbling for the 500$ difference from the 5D2 to the 6D, which is minimal gains, while from the 6D to the 5D3 is day-night difference.  ???

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 02, 2013, 05:29:22 PM »
More like a market for a re-badged 1200$ 5d2 performing camera that costs 2000$.  :P

Useable 12800 ISO is nothing to scoff at coming from a 5D2. The center AF point is fantastic in low light as well. If you need the low-light performance, the 6D is easily worth an extra $500 over the 5D2.

How do I know? I upgraded from a 5D2 to a 6D, and I will never go back!

Camera Performance is what this thread is about, Not IQ. My time with the 6D clearly demonstrated what the 6D really was, a Re-hashed 5d2 with marginally better IQ.

The 5d2's ability in low light is much lesser than the 6d.  If you are never in ISO 6400 and up situations there is no reason to choose a 6d over a 5d2, but if you shoot in low light the 6d is vastly improved over the 5d2.

I never said the 6D is a bad camera, I just simply stated its a bad value currently.

It's funny, because back in September everyone thought that price was a great price for a 5d2.  People were talking about it being a steal at $1700.  You recommended some guy buy one for $1650 off Craig's List.

It was a good deal at the time, now I would pay 1200-1400$ for a 5D2. It's the same good 'ol 5D2. Why pay 2000$ for 6D for what essentially is a 5D2?

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:54:56 PM »
Love these shots alex. Very solid photographer indeed.

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Animal Kingdom / Re: MY dog
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:47:42 PM »
"Can I have some chicken?"

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Lenses / Re: Fingerprint "investigation"? (ef 35mm f/1.4L)
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:44:40 PM »
Just a note, I remember the day I pulled my 50L out of the box, I accidentally put a huge full size thumb-print on the front element. I thought the same here until I looked and said, "That fingerprint looks familiar."  :P

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5d Mark III Shadow recovery
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:37:22 PM »
@art_d

Heres @!ex's photostream. I sure he know more about HDR than most.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison

One image that caught my attention for your application.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/5979038530/#in/set-72157624536531517

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Lenses / Re: What shall i get next ?
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:34:25 PM »
A AB800 with a big-@$$ octo-box, like 47" or bigger. It will blow your mind.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:15:12 PM »
More like a market for a re-badged 1200$ 5d2 performing camera that costs 2000$.  :P

Useable 12800 ISO is nothing to scoff at coming from a 5D2. The center AF point is fantastic in low light as well. If you need the low-light performance, the 6D is easily worth an extra $500 over the 5D2.

How do I know? I upgraded from a 5D2 to a 6D, and I will never go back!

Camera Performance is what this thread is about, Not IQ. My time with the 6D clearly demonstrated what the 6D really was, a Re-hashed 5d2 with marginally better IQ.

The 5d2's ability in low light is much lesser than the 6d.  If you are never in ISO 6400 and up situations there is no reason to choose a 6d over a 5d2, but if you shoot in low light the 6d is vastly improved over the 5d2.

I never said the 6D is a bad camera, I just simply stated its a bad value currently.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D as a Compliment to 5DMkiii
« on: April 02, 2013, 02:33:39 PM »
Finally, I never use the center point either.  Why would I? 

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot.  I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

This is just the stupid comment I was expecting from you.  The faces are in focus right?  They're faces aren't in the center.  They are two AF points up the vertical set of AF points on my camera. 

In other words, you're wrong.  See ya.

No offense but this seems to be the right time to ask what the heck you shoot there anyway. Two 1DX, a 5D3 and all I see is completely random sports boredom. Are you a professional booked solely for this purpose? I'd sure use that gear for other stuff in my spare time.

Ouch, I even found that harsh. At least he goes out and shoots, some of these trolls coming into CR don't even leave they're test chart rooms.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive
« on: April 02, 2013, 02:23:55 PM »
More like a market for a re-badged 1200$ 5d2 performing camera that costs 2000$.  :P

Useable 12800 ISO is nothing to scoff at coming from a 5D2. The center AF point is fantastic in low light as well. If you need the low-light performance, the 6D is easily worth an extra $500 over the 5D2.

How do I know? I upgraded from a 5D2 to a 6D, and I will never go back!

Camera Performance is what this thread is about, Not IQ. My time with the 6D clearly demonstrated what the 6D really was, a Re-hashed 5d2 with marginally better IQ.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5d Mark III Shadow recovery
« on: April 02, 2013, 02:21:04 PM »
If the 5DIII has insufficient dynamic range for whatever you're doing, whatever you're doing is extreme. Basically, you're either trying to salvage a severely underexposed image, or you're trying to turn deep shadows into midtones (or even highlights -- I've actually seen people try that).
Not true. There are circumstances where you cannot properly expose all parts of the image due dyanmic range variations in the shooting conditions. You can expose properly for one part or the other and either blow out the highlights or block up the shadows. The lesser of two evils is to expose so the highlights don't get blown and if you still need to you can lift the shadows...this works ok in a lot of circumstances, but not all. In particular,  scenarios where you have larger areas of smooth shadows, pattern noise can become a very real problem that will be visible even on moderate prints sizes.

You know, I keep coming across these complaints, very much like the one you just made, but I've yet to experience anything remotely like this problem in my shooting. Perhaps you could post an example of a properly-exposed image shot with a 5DIII with excessive shadow noise? And, please, not Fred Miranda's infamous page two example. That shot is at least a stop or two underexposed, in harsh noonday Sun, and he's lifting deep Zone II shade almost to midtones. That's the textbook definition of "extreme." And of "bad light." And, too, "poor technique."

Cheers,

b&
I wouldn't call it a "complaint." Just a statement of fact. In my shooting I've come across circumstances where it is a legitimate issue. (And thanks, privatebydesign, for posting a link to our previous discussion on that with my examples.)

My intent is to provide honest feedback on where I've found the limits of the equipment to be. I have no interest in exaggerating the impact of the issue. It's obviously not a deal breaker for me, since I still am shooting Canon. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and I do feel there's a bit of a rush to judgement to dismiss anyone who mentions pattern noise as not knowing how to expose properly or such things.

So while the Canon system suits my needs very well for the most part, this is an area where I do think there is room for improvement. I find it unfortunate when opinions are expressed to the effect that everything is fine, there's no need for improvement. Why do we need to rationalize away shortcomings? "Hey Canon, stop worrying about R&D, your sensors as good as they need to be and if someone thinks the competition is better it's just becasue they don't know how to shoot." :P Why should we send a message to a manufacturer that their product is perfect, we the consumers don't expect anything more?

You have a solid portfolio sir, My hat's tipped through the internet.

I don't do alot of HDR, but they're is another canon user here called A!ex or something like that. He does alot of it and it looks sublime. He once mentioned that the merging program has alot to with how good the final DR is and it seem's your shooting DR scene's excess of what possible with either platform.

I usually use flash for indoor property photography, but I can't say I do it enough to give an opinion.

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