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These people aren't really bringing up the only real factor here. Yes, editing helps, but you shouldn't have to do any real serious editing to any great natural light portraits.
The real issue here is light.
The first image is shot under much higher sun, it's harder light, and can easily wash colors out because it's on a higher angle and generally looks bad if you don't know how to use it.
The second image, the one you seem to like, was shot indoors, under lower ambient, where it's softer, and coming from "all over" as opposed to from one specific angle up in the sky.
Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the editing will make the difference, it might HELP fix problems, but if you shoot it really well, you shouldn't have to do much editing at all. If it was all done really well in the camera, then the very minor things will help get an over all better image like white balance.
Hey guys! I'm new to this forum and new to Photography. I've always loved taking pictures of landscape,cars,people, and just random stuff. Lol So I decided that it's time for me to grab a decent DSLR.
I'm completely new to DSLR's and photography. Still doing a lot of reading and learning on which camera I should go with. Based on the stuff I've read and learned I'm leaning towards getting the 7D. But I'm concerned that when I get the 7D now couple of months later down the road the new rumored 7D MKII comes out.
So my question is should I wait for the 7D MKII (why?) or I should just get the 7D?
There is no guarantee from Canon that there will even be a 7DmkII - nobody really knows. It is also anyone's guess when Canon plans to introduce a new APS-C sensor.
What would interest me is why you particularly want the 7D? If you don't have specific needs to shoot sports or to use the camera in an environment where a sealed body and lenses are needed, you could look at a 60D, which has the same sensor, or even a 650D. I would possibly rather put the difference in price between the 7D and the 60D into a good lens, which will possibly yield a better return than a higher end body.
The reason I want the 7D over the 60D/650D is because of its weather sealing and also its faster. My family travels a lot thats why I want the rigid and weather sealed body of the 7D.
The things I want to take pictures of are landscape, fast moving things (cars going around the track), and just random stuff. lol its mostly going to be cars and landscape.
As far as Lenses go I'm not quite sure of what I need for the stuff I want to shoot. I do plan on upgrading to a 5D later on just not sure when tho.
Then by all means, The 7D is the body for you then as the MK2's AF isn't quite as good. Just pick up a 10-22mm as well. A very good lens.
I plan on buying that lens also the 17-55.
or should I be getting L lenses instead? I do plan on upgrading later on on a 5D body but not for the next 2 yrs. or so.
Hey guys! I'm new to this forum and new to Photography. I've always loved taking pictures of landscape,cars,people, and just random stuff. Lol So I decided that it's time for me to grab a decent DSLR.
I'm completely new to DSLR's and photography. Still doing a lot of reading and learning on which camera I should go with. Based on the stuff I've read and learned I'm leaning towards getting the 7D. But I'm concerned that when I get the 7D now couple of months later down the road the new rumored 7D MKII comes out.
So my question is should I wait for the 7D MKII (why?) or I should just get the 7D?
There is no guarantee from Canon that there will even be a 7DmkII - nobody really knows. It is also anyone's guess when Canon plans to introduce a new APS-C sensor.
What would interest me is why you particularly want the 7D? If you don't have specific needs to shoot sports or to use the camera in an environment where a sealed body and lenses are needed, you could look at a 60D, which has the same sensor, or even a 650D. I would possibly rather put the difference in price between the 7D and the 60D into a good lens, which will possibly yield a better return than a higher end body.
The reason I want the 7D over the 60D/650D is because of its weather sealing and also its faster. My family travels a lot thats why I want the rigid and weather sealed body of the 7D.
The things I want to take pictures of are landscape, fast moving things (cars going around the track), and just random stuff. lol its mostly going to be cars and landscape.
As far as Lenses go I'm not quite sure of what I need for the stuff I want to shoot. I do plan on upgrading to a 5D later on just not sure when tho.
I'd get a rebel series. If your just starting, its the best body to learn on.
Not too sure I would agree with that.
Hey guys! I'm new to this forum and new to Photography. I've always loved taking pictures of landscape,cars,people, and just random stuff. Lol So I decided that it's time for me to grab a decent DSLR.
I'm completely new to DSLR's and photography. Still doing a lot of reading and learning on which camera I should go with. Based on the stuff I've read and learned I'm leaning towards getting the 7D. But I'm concerned that when I get the 7D now couple of months later down the road the new rumored 7D MKII comes out.
So my question is should I wait for the 7D MKII (why?) or I should just get the 7D?
The final image comes down your RAW Processing. I get great skin tones from any camera by getting the exposure correct and processing in LR3. Shooting at a larger aperture will provide the buttery background but your subject may not still have those nice skin tones.
Switching to FF will not magically fix your skin tones, Its your processing that will do that.
Any tips for getting the exposure correct?
The FF would help with crop factor and IQ moreso than actual skin and individual shots is what I meant. I'll have to download a trial of LR and see what I can accomplish with it...
I like reading Ken's stuff. Its good information but like all things, You have to sift thru the crap to get the good information.
Better bring a big a** sifter!
When did the 5D become the 5Dc? Can a six year old dslr be a 'classic'?
hmmm.
Even as a firm canon user, I always thought the Dx00's were more like where the film EOS 3 sat... I know it's apples and pears as even the rebels have usually been more comparable to Elans, but bear with me... until the 5D...c... there wasn't really a direct competitor, and even then it was a different segment camera.
Just an opinion. If I'm wrong it won't be for first or last time.
Funny that Ken Rockwell is a Nikon guy and he flat out thought the 5D3 was a better camera then the Nikon D800. Basically if you read his article he states that there are better cameras out there for any one thing. The beauty of the 5D3 is that it does everything well. If you are after a camera that you can have with you and it will do any type of shooting well then there is no better option then the 5D3. That's what he is saying. You want higher res and dynamic range for landscapes then there are better options...but those options will not be better at almost anything else. He also said that ease of use and the ability of the camera to get the job done efficiently were more important then pixel peeping. I agree.
The 5D3 is a great camera that takes amazing pictures. All of the people whining that Canon is losing the battle to Nikon are wasting their time. Canon is not going away and they will not change their pricing because Nikon wants to low-ball them. Personally I find these discussions laughable because the people that are all complaining about how the 5D3 has terrible dynamic range probably don't do anything with a camera that would justify more dynamic range. Go ahead and print a 24" x 36" poster print of a 5D3 image and a D800 image and see if you could blindly tell the difference. I bet you couldn't. How many of you actually EVER print bigger than that?
You don't like the direction Canon is going? Go buy a Nikon. I DON'T CARE. Have fun. I'll be doing my job and getting paid for shooting with my Canon. Oh..and by the way...not one client has ever said, "You might want to think about changing cameras. That one seems to have poor dynamic range." I went from a 1DS2 to the 5D3 and no one knows the difference except me.