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You don't have a flash?
I wouldnt dare to shoot an event like this without having one in my bag.
Before, if you prefer available light, I would bring my 35L.

This is all VIDEO I'm asking about.



Canon General / Re: More Medium Format Talk [CR1]
« on: August 14, 2013, 03:52:01 PM »
This WILL happen.  I'm no expert, but the writing is on the wall IMO...

Canon needs growth.  But where?  Mirrorless, DSLR is flat.  Point & Shoot is declining due to Smartphones.  I think FF is going to get MUCH cheaper because APS-C will compete with smartphones.  It's only a matter of time when you'll be able to set aperture/iso and shutter on them.  So I think APS-C will die in 5 years.  There is growth potential in video as more photographers are adding it to their arsenal.  But that won't be too much growth really.

Medium Format.  But how to do this is tricky.  They can buy let's say Phase One.  And that will show growth.  But only for a year or two because they are only buying already established customers.  Or, they can build their own MF cam and gear.  This is a longer term, better route.  But there is an initial big investment in infrastructure.  So they may show a loss the first 2 - 3 years to recoup cost, but may have good growth for another 7 - 10 years.  Taking Phase One/Hasselblad/Leica users.  This is of course, that their option is equally if not better and with a good cost savings.  Which I think Canon would do.  I would say they would price one around $15k.  That could kill the big MF players.

Ok, I'm still a noob and learning my way around my first DSLR, the 5D3.

Aside from hearing the term Medium Format camera, I don't know much about it...just that it has higher resolution.

Why would a MF camera, especially if put out in a more main stream market like Canon would be doing...cost fscking $15K or more?!?

I was guessing they are pricey due to being a low sales niche type camera, but if it went main stream production why would it not cost closer to the ballpark price of a higher end DSLR?

What makes them so expensive?


Hi Folks,

Ok, I need some advice.

I have this event I'm likely going to be doing video for. It is to set a world record for "the largest gathering of brides, in wedding dresses"...and then a pub crawl afterwards.

This is in Sept, starts at 4pm....goes through evening.   

So, my main thought as the evening goes on....what do do about lights? and with me on foot for quite a bit of distance...I can't carry a ton of equipment by myself, and I'm likely to be a one man band here.

I have my manfroto monopod with fluid head...I'll be bringing that.

I have my sling bag...and figure I can carry my 70-200mm f/ 17-40mm f/4.  For ultrawides I'll maybe squeeze in for only a couple rokinon 14mm.

But I have no portable lights. Should I invest in some sort of small, portable LED lights?

I've not worked out any logistics....but mainly the record setting part is at one site about 4pm...once that is done, they all walk to various bars that are sponsoring this event, so, I'll need to follow along with them and shoot along the way.

This is in about a month and I just kinda found out I was volunteered for this, so, starting to sweat a bit early and try to figure out how best to try to pull this off.

I've got 2x batteries...I'll be buying at least a 3rd one, maybe 2 more. I need at least a couple more CF cards I'm thinking, I have about 4 x 32GB ones, along with a bunch of 32GB sd cards, but I don't trust those for video.

Thoughts, suggestions?  I'm trying to see if I can get a friend to help me out a bit...but I'm planning now for it to just be me.

Thanks in advance!!!


Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 5
« on: August 14, 2013, 01:33:25 PM »
'A bit' is somewhat of an understatement  ;D

The typical SQL records for a Lr development are less than 100kb. A PSD file based on a DSLR raw image can be 100mb+. Smart objects are not references to the original file on disc, they're copies embedded into the PSD file so they're vulnerable to corruption every time the PSD is re-saved. If you work in Lr and need total security against loss of your developed images you only have to keep one 'permanent' backup of the raw file, then routine mirrors of the LRCAT database (which is small enough to backup online). I do commercial stuff that can never be repeated, so I'm paranoid about backups:

  • CR2s from the cards go as-is to an external drive (using TeraCopy), then they're imported from the cards to my workstation in Lr as DNGs, only when everything's verified will the cards be reused.
  • The external drives go off-site. I've only needed to pull copies once, when an SSD in the workstation threw a hissy fit - but if the office is eaten by Godzilla I can be up and running in an hour.
  • The LRCAT databases are synced to the cloud every evening (using a batch script). Lr makes local backups automatically.

To highlight the fact that you're never touching the originals, in Lr5 you can work on developments even if they're not available - it'll take whatever you do to the Smart Previews and re-apply it to the original images when you mount the DNG/CR2 files again. When I'm shooting for a previous client I'll take their LRCAT (and the folder of Smart Previews) in case we need to browse the old stuff for reference - a catalog with 10,000+ images will fit on a USB stick. Also means I can play about with any of my photos in the airport lounge (anything to distract me from the free jelly beans ;) ).

Of course there are thousands of things you can do in Photoshop that you can't do in Lr, but I'd never suggest using Ps as a default tool for developing raw files unless you have terabytes of storage laying about. Using ACR outside of Ps is another option (e.g. via Bridge) as it'll write an XMP sidecar file instead of a database record, but managing all those sidecars is a real pain and you don't get to use all of the presets and plugins from Lr.

Well, all being said...if you're doing things "non-destructively" in Photoshop, you're working with your RAW images as smart objects, and aren't making any changes directly to them there either. It eats up a bit more space ...


I wasn't implying that you work most of your RAW stuff in PS instead of LR. I just was saying that if you use PS,  you would likely want to work non-destructively and use smart objects in PS.

I mean, these days....HD space is getting dirt cheap, and if you do have a PS project that had lots of layers, etc...I'd want to keep my options open for later changes, especially if working for a client that might want this or that changed, etc.

However, IMHO..the best workflow that I'm trying to start in LR. Likely 98% of my images can be done there, if I'm careful enough to get as much correct in camera.

However, when something needs a lot of work...either to salvage or just for very creative stuff...then I'll do those images in PS...and likely as a smart object that comes from LR after I've done initial "development" there.

But no, was wasn't being a proponent for doing your primary RAW import and changes in PS.


Software & Accessories / Re: External HDD for backups
« on: August 14, 2013, 11:57:07 AM »
I just got a setup I'm going to try, the Seagate backup plus thunderbolt adapter.
I'm going to try to use it on my MBP (late 2011), and from there daisy chain my thunderbolt to display port I currently use to get my Dell u2711 monitor to work.

I bought a thunderbolt cable, and a seagate backup plus 3TB drive (strangely enough, cheaper to buy in pieces rather than the bundled package by seagate)...

Anyway, I hope to set this up and try to use that for my fast off laptop server access (photoshop, premier, AE work).

When SSD comes down in price a bit, I will likely pull the mechanical drive mentioned above off of it and drop the SSD on the thunderbolt adapter (which I've seen will work )...

Anyway, that's a new attempt I'm making. I have slower NAS stuff out there for longer term storage, but I'm hoping this thunderbolt adapter (essentially a thunderbolt to SATA adapter) will prove to be speedy enough for my needs, and relieve my onboard drive of some churn and keep it from filling up all the time.


Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III Body $2545
« on: August 14, 2013, 11:34:35 AM »
I'm moving to Canada soon from the U.K. How does this work regarding taxes and stuff if I buy one and import it there?

I'm aware of all the grey market and warranty issues already.

err...why not buy it here, pack it in your luggage and keep mum about it when you move to Canada?

I assume you've bought it, so what's the result? Did you manage to plug it into your recording device?

I purchased it on months ago....still not available to ship, dunno what it is like yet.

I had to tell amazon to keep it on order, so...hoping it will be here in the near future.


Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III Body $2545
« on: August 13, 2013, 05:20:05 PM »
What's the scoop on this?

Is this a grey market camera? US warranty?


I was looking to pick up a Mac Air because I want something light and convenient for viewing and editing photos in the field...but then I noticed the Retina display on the MacBook Pro, the resolution is so much greater than the Air...and more power.

It would be mainly for viewing and editing photos in Aperture and Nik....and surfing the web.

Any thoughts from owners of either would be appreciated.

A quick question. Is this going to be a secondary computer, just for taking out and about in the field.....and that you have a more robust computer at home for heavy duty processing, etc?

That makes a difference.

If it is your sole primary computer, I'd say get the MBP...but if you already have one or something more powerful at home, then sure, a macbook air is a nice secondary computer, but for me, certainly not powerful enough for the real "work" I like to do with photoshop, and with editing videos.

Remember a lot of the Adobe products in particular, are heavy users of the GPU and a good bit of, check the specs on the may not have enough muscle if you planning on doing anything more than light editing and mostly image review, like you mentioned.


Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 5
« on: August 09, 2013, 11:29:58 PM »
Also, take a look at, they have some wonderful classes on there, and I think they are doing a major look at all CC offerings from Adobe.

Either 1-2 weeks off, go check out their calendar.....classes are free to watch live and on the rebroadcasts the evening and usually most of next day.

I'm sure they're having some Lightroom classes then too.?



Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 5
« on: August 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM »
LR5 has brushable healing and cloning tools so you're no longer limited to a circular dot - but it will always be slower than Photoshop because the processing you apply in Lr is *not* changing the pixels in the original image. Adjustments are applied 'live' every time the photo is displayed. If you're removing a couple of scratches you won't notice, but cleaning up a mass of dust bunnies or a flock of birds and things will slow down.

It's important for new customers to remember this - fundamentally Lr is a catalog system, not a photo editor. Users get confused that images have to be 'imported' before anything can happen and it won't just browse through folders like Photoshop or DPP, but that's the entire point - it doesn't edit the photo files on disc, it builds a database of what you want changed; then exports or prints a copy when you're ready. If you process your photos in another application (DPP, Photoshop, etc) then Lr's database may still have value as a way to organize and search for your content, but if you prefer to keep things in a disc folder structure so they can be quickly-grabbed into other software it may not. To be frank, Lr prefers you to develop and touch up your raw files entirely within Lr, and only resort to a bounce through a 'conventional' editing program if absolutely necessary. To preserve the original file, Lr will make a copy on disc when it's sent for external editing, so you'll end up with two copies in the database (and two files on disc).

Think of it as Camera Raw with an SQLlite database bolted on the front that remembers what you did with the sliders, and resets them each time you view that photo. The advantage is that your original CR2/DNG files aren't at risk of corruption or overwriting, the payoff is that everything is 'virtual' until you export a copy. There's no "Save" menu in Lightroom!

Well, all being said...if you're doing things "non-destructively" in Photoshop, you're working with your RAW images as smart objects, and aren't making any changes directly to them there either. It eats up a bit more space and RAM/CPU, but you really should likely for most things be working with smart objects and that you can come back and redo something if needed, in that case, it would be like you described working with LR.

My $0.02,


Hello all,

I was just reading the nofilmschool weekly digest and this article about the BM drop in price of the original cinema camera:

And got me to thinking.

Of course I'm VERY excited about the possibility of the 5D3 having easy to use RAW video via the ML team, however, ....would this BM camera not make a fairly inexpensive compliment for my 5D3 and be a good 2nd camera for video?  The price certainly is inviting....and I could get the one with the EF lens mount, allowing me  to use my investment in Canon glass.

But, I don't know much about the sensor and the advantages/limitations of the BM 2.5K camera.

I'd thought about the pocket camera as my 2nd camera, but I'd have to buy all new glass to use that....and the 4K camera isn't coming out yet really, and the price is a bit much for me right at this point....

So, what's the thoughts here about the $1995.00 Black Magic cinema camera, with EF mount?  Pros? Cons? How well would it fit into my equipment bag for video, especially in light of the 5D3 having full RAW in the predictable future?

Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks in advance!!


Well,I'm gonna read up on it...and maybe give it a try this weekend.

Nothing like 'jumping into the fire' to get to try to learn how to do new things, eh?



Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 5
« on: August 08, 2013, 02:58:40 PM »

LR Raw's are unaltered out of the box, it's the JPEG's that you are comparing them to that have been altered during in camera processing.

All RAW processing programs have default adjustments that are made to the RAW file in the preview of it.  None change the RAW file that I know of except DPP when you use DLO.


I wasn't saying LR was changing the RAW file itself, but that it does have some settings right out of the box, that will be applied to the RAW when it shows it to you in the 'preview'.

I think there is by default some sharpening, etc done to it...even before you start changing or 'developing' the image.

Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 5
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:19:04 AM »
Also, I'm learning LR5 too.

From come Creative Live classes I've appears that LR comes out of the box, with some "preset develop" settings it applies to RAW images coming in.

You can go into a couple of the setup areas, I think lens correction is one, but I'm trying to say there are 1-2 other places that you have to go in, and set it so that it doesn't apply things upon import.

But from what I've head, out of the box, LR does not bring your RAW stuff in unadulterated, it applies some changes...I guess to make them look "good" out of camera?


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