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Software & Accessories / Re: Canon EOS 7D RAW Video?
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:52:50 AM »
All sounds great, but given the 7D ML is still at alpha stage and has been for some time, this is more a theoretical achievement than actual.

"Alpha" is more a label to scare people who don't know what they're doing, since the ml framework is very stable by now a port to a new camera is also expected to be stable. So the "alpha" label more relates to the fact that you shouldn't *rely* on it for production and it might not be feature-complete then that it's likely to brick your camera.

Btw raw on the 5d3 will still be better than 7d because I'd expect the 1080p data rate to be too high and 720p has moire.

From what I've been following in the forums, the 5D3 is the one that is the most developed and working the best.

I wish they'd pool the resources, and concentrate on the 5D3, and get it 100% ready for "prime time" and bring that one at least to Beta, and have a straightforward method to easily load it, and also to easily get the RAW video out for a normal workflow, which appears to be straight into Davinci Resolve (after the 9.15 update).

At least get the one closest to working well out the door, and then concentrate next on the next best camera, maybe the 7D.

I'm a computer geek by trade, I do it for a living, however, after reading the ML forums, I'm not confident I could get the Alpha Stuff on, AND then correctly get the RAW video parts in, and am wary about some "flags" they say that can't be undone...etc.

I'm just not confident enough reading through the hundreds of links in the forums, etc...to get it to work, without potentially harming my camera.

So, wish they'd devote resouces to getting the first one ready for the masses, with good instructions and out the door, which seems to be the 5D3.....and then move onto the other cameras, rather than working a little on all of them, and taking forever to get any of them out into a stage that is easier to be used by the "Joe Sixpack" user crowd.

My $0.02,

cayenne

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Canon General / Re: People that don't shoot in manual...
« on: August 03, 2013, 07:57:09 PM »
...I kinda go with what I heard Syl Arena say, that he only uses ETTL when the distance between the lens and the subject are moving....

With all due respect to Syl Arena, Joe McNally, Strobist and all the other advocates of manual flash, they have thousands upon thousands of hours of experience working with strobes and know them inside and out. While it's a good exercise to try to learn manual controls, to me it's a little like the original topic of this thread: if a tool is available that makes your life easier, why not use it?

If I live long enough, I may someday have enough experience to confidently set my speedlights on full manual. But, in the meantime, I figure I paid for Canon's top line strobes so I might as well take advantage of the technology they offer.  As so many others have said about the original topic of this thread: it's about the results, not about how you got there.
Bravo.  I don't think I'll ever have enough time to confidently and efficiently set up stobes in manual mode.  I'm sure I could figure it out using tables, trial-and-error and other methods, but I don't do it every day (nor do I think I ever will), so there is no advantage to manual flash when I can just set up camera in manual mode, and play around with ISO, shutter speed and FEC and get similar results in about the same (or less) amount of time.

How about a lightmeter?

Instead of shooting a lot to try to get the flash to fire the way I want, I simply use a lightmeter, set the flash, turn it off, do the next one and turn all of them on, it's done within three minutes, and then I can shoot and move, and no matter if I move so that I have the flash directly to the camera or hidden I ALWALYS know I have the exact same light hitting the subject. That's why I always use manual flash. I have shot with ETTL and found it very frustrating that I had to stand in the same place or the exposure would change, for example having a flash towards the camera suddenly everything is three stops under.


Manual flash sounds difficult, while it's really the opposite.

I just bought a light meter...the new sekonic touch screen one...hope to have some time to figure it out soon.
:)

C

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Canon General / Re: People that don't shoot in manual...
« on: August 03, 2013, 07:55:49 PM »
...I kinda go with what I heard Syl Arena say, that he only uses ETTL when the distance between the lens and the subject are moving....

With all due respect to Syl Arena, Joe McNally, Strobist and all the other advocates of manual flash, they have thousands upon thousands of hours of experience working with strobes and know them inside and out. While it's a good exercise to try to learn manual controls, to me it's a little like the original topic of this thread: if a tool is available that makes your life easier, why not use it?

If I live long enough, I may someday have enough experience to confidently set my speedlights on full manual. But, in the meantime, I figure I paid for Canon's top line strobes so I might as well take advantage of the technology they offer.  As so many others have said about the original topic of this thread: it's about the results, not about how you got there.

Well, in controlled conditions, with manual, you seem to have IMHO, much more control of the look that you want...rather than the computer chip in the camera trying to tell you what you want.

Not saying it doesn't have its place, but when you have the time and control of the subject and environment, it seems to me at my new place on the photo experience totem pole, that you get more control of what you desire out of manual flashes, especially if you're shooting multiple ones..?

Just my opinion so far...

C

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Canon General / Re: People that don't shoot in manual...
« on: August 01, 2013, 03:39:45 PM »
I'm hesitant to jump into this speedlite conversation, but what the heck.

Seems like you all are making this more complicated than it needs to be. In camera's manual mode, set the shutter speed and aperture for whatever you want  (within the sync speed limits of the camera and strobe). With ETTL, the strobe will generate the right amount of light to expose the subject.

If you want a lot of ambient light, use a slower shutter speed, higher ISO and/or bigger aperture. If you want the speedlites to dominate, increase the shutter speed, lower the ISO and/or stop the lens down. Speedlite adjusts to match the exposure you picked. If the shot needs more or less light from the strobe, adjust the flash exposure compensation.

Since much of this thread has been about letting the technology do the grunt work for you, why not do it with ETTL.  What am I missing here?

Changing the ISO or the Aperture affects both the speedlite and ambient for more or less light. Hence your really stuck in the same position but your speedlite will have to work harder instead of using shutter speed to control the ambient.

I concur on using ETTL for the speedlite control, but keep the camera in M mode. We're not talking Manual flash settings, we're discussing Manual camera settings VS Aperture variable settings on the camera. If the speedlite starts to get hot from all the pre-flashes, I'll just switch to full manual on the speedlite.

I'm not saying that Av + Flash is completely useless. It works great if the light isn't changing, which is a kinda strange irony. Overall, 90% of the time I use a flash, It needs to be in M Mode. :P

I'm really trying to learn everything in manual...but like others have said, a time and place and tool for everything, no?

With flash, I kinda go with what I heard Syl Arena say, that he only uses ETTL when the distance between the lens and the subject are moving....which makes sense if you're out shooting runners in a track meet. If in the studio on tripods, then manual is likely the way to go in most instances so you have more control and can generate more precise custom looks, the way YOU want them to look, not the computer in the camera.

As for camera, I'm somewhat like minded there...I try to shoot manual exclusively when at home shooting things on tripod, like still lifes, posed models, or landscapes...

Even run and gun, if I can, I try manual, I set ISO, and aperture and when shooting,I spin my shutter speed till I get the exposure meter about right...

If things move too fast past that to keep up with, then I switch to AV mode....etc.

But again, I'm a total noob, my 5D3 is my first DSLR and I'm trying to learn everything it *can* do, and keeping in manual most of the time, is the best way to figure things out IMHO.

Immersion learning so to speak....

C

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Software & Accessories / Re: External HDD for backups
« on: August 01, 2013, 03:29:12 PM »
The Western Digital MyBook drives use a proprietary encryption.  If the micro USB bus should break you will have to pair the data with another WD device of that era to decrypt the data.  I have had a couple of these drives.  Would never store anything important on them for fear of expensive data recovery services.

When I get those drives, I just first immediately "slick" them, and wipe off all the WD programs and all they put on there, and then just use them as a regular, harddrive.

I dunno when they started putting that cr@p on their portable harddrives, but it is annoying a bit.

I just need them for storage, not management.

C

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: ...and now Smugmug.
« on: August 01, 2013, 02:09:13 PM »
A bit off topic perhaps, but if you were compelled to jump ship at this point, which service would you choose?  I am considering a service now and don't know which one or even how to choose.  I don't know what a reasonable price to pay, or what features to look for- thoughts?

Would you stay with Smugmug and why?

Thank you.

sek

I'm going to need somewhere to save/display my photos and videos soon too..and am interested in hearing the pros/cons of the places out there currently.

I know flickr has fallen out of fashion to a great extent...

C

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Software & Accessories / Re: External HDD for backups
« on: July 31, 2013, 12:44:34 PM »
My recommendation - even to 'not too serious' photographers is to always keep a copy of at least your very favourite photos on an external HDD in a location away from one's home - so if your home is burgled or the immediate area where you live (eg suburb) is destroyed by any event - such as: fire, tornado, earthquake, etc - you should still have your very favourite photos safe in that other location.  For photographers where photos are their work and income, this is a no-brainer- do it!

+1

I use LaCie Rugged 1 TB drives for backup, the FW800 is quite speedy (a lot better than USB2). I have a pair of them for complete clones and another pair for just RAW images and also video, and I keep one set at home and another set at work.  Every 2-3 months, I burn the recent files to a DL-DVD and store that in a safety deposit box (in a bank that's in a town separate from where I live and the city where I work).  I write RAW files to two cards.  So, right when the image is captured, I have duplicate copies.  After processing, the images are on my laptop and on four external drives in two locations, and eventually there will be 5 copies in two locations.

The separate HDDs for images/video are planning ahead for the time when my laptop drive isn't big enough to store all my RAW files (although I deferred that time significantly last week when I replaced my internal 500 GB HDD with a 960 GB SSD).  If/when I get to that point, I can delete a year at a time from the internal SSD, and thus those will be deleted from the clones, too.  BUt I'll still have 3 copies in three different locations.

Overkill?  Maybe.  But maybe I should add Mozy or Carbonite, too?  :)

On a slightly OT version of this...

I'm running quickly out of hardrive space on my late 2011 macbookpro. I need somehow to get external HD space I can hook into this to do PS, Aperture 3, Premier, FCPX work on...so I can free up my main harddrive.

My MBP only has Firewire 800, Thunderbolt and USB2 as hookup options.

I was looking at the Lacie 2-3TB external harddrives, to use the Firewire connection...would this be fast enough to house my working files that I'm processing?

USB2 would be too slow I think...and I don't think thunderbolt would be an option since I'm having to use thunderbolt to display port adapter to run my Dell U2711 monitor and get full resolution out of it...I dunno if that would work daisy chaining....

Thanks in advance,

cayenne

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Software & Accessories / Re: External HDD for backups
« on: July 31, 2013, 12:39:04 PM »
I'm still setting up my main NAS, doing a DIY freeNAS set up (www.freenas.org)....and I have a Synology 2 drive one I'm using right now for one backup site.

But I started with and still use a simple method. I bought a USB hard drive dock..and I just buy off the shelf regular internal SATA drives when they go on sale. 1TB or larger.

I just plug one in, back up to that, and pop it out and replace with another to do another backup.  I'm basically using external harddrives like I used to use floppy disks....this is a cheap and viable way to make multiple copies.

But for real backup, you also need offsite.

Once I get my NAS set up they way I like it, I'm going to build an identical system and put it out of state at my parents' home and rcync my data to it and that way I'm covered if something happens to my home and I lose drives there....

My $0.02,

cayenne

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Canon General / Re: People that don't shoot in manual...
« on: July 31, 2013, 12:29:59 PM »
traveling at 30+ mph (50+ kph for you non-yanks)

A: Most non-yanks know the conversion, although I also tend to include both units to help the readers.

B: The correct would have been km/h, not kph. Just saying.

 ;)

A: Well, that's just because y'all are more globally intelligent.  I continue to remain baffled at the American (or is it "United Statesian" since everyone across 2 continents are "American") inability to grasp killermeters.

B: Well, yeah, if you want to be SI compliant, but kph was first (per the source of all truth, wiki):   ;D

    1889: "k. p. h."
    1895: "km:h"
    1898: "km/h"
    1899: "km./hr."
    1911: "K.P.H."
    1914 "km. hr."
    1915: "km/hour"
    1915: "km.-hr."
    1916: "km. per hour"
    1933: "KPH"

I can settle one part for you quite easily.

You can refer to those of us residing the the United States of America, as Americans.<P>
We've been going by that moniker for a bit over 200yrs and we're quite happy with it.

Yes, we're a part of North America, but we're the only country that has America in its name. Mexico has Mexicans, Canada has Canadians....etc.

I dunno where this recent trend to try to rename us has come from, but please stop it. We are not Usian's, we are Americans, and prefer that for the most part.

As for the metric system, well, honestly, at this point, it would cause more turmoil and cost more money that would likely be beneficial to us.

Most Americans never leave the country and have very little interaction with the rest of the world where measurement would be required.  So, at the very least the cost/benefits can't really be seen to favor the change.  And just so ingrained...I know how fast I'm going at 80mph, I have no idea what I'd be doing (without sitting down with a calculator or Googling it) at 30kmph.  I have no concept on how to dress if the weather said it was 20C or 40C....but I know 32F and 98F without thinking.

It doesn't seem to be impeding that much on trade (although it did lead to one space snafu) so, why change? And it isn't like the US is well known to have much an inclination to "follow the rest of the world because they do x this way". We not only like doing things our own way, we relish the independent thought and action mentality.

But I'm just rambling at this point...

;)

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Canon General / Re: People that don't shoot in manual...
« on: July 31, 2013, 12:17:38 PM »



I realize there are car afficionados out there who love their stick shift, but why not take advantage of the dual clutch auto and all the extra speed it gives you :).

Oh man..you had the analogy going VERY well, until the end there with the car attempt....<P>
:)

For a sports car, especially a high end sports car, you want a manual transmission...if not for resale value, but for performance.

You're generally gonna get the better times and stats with manual over automatic, if you know how to drive the manual...

I've never owned a car with auto transmission, and only one car have I ever owned had more than 2 seats (that one was an '86 911 Turbo, but those rear seats aren't really useable for anything but 2x bags of groceries).....

LOL...anyway, good thoughts on the camera, but ugh...a sports car with auto transmission? A waste of good steel....

:)

OMGzzzz!!1!!one!1!!!!!! I'd never even drive an automatic! I am British though, and those things are quite rare here. Why would you let the car decide what gear you need to be in?

I'm possibly the only person that will survive when the robots take over, it appears.

And besides, after you've had a couple drinks and have to drive home....having to shift keeps your attention very well centered on driving, how fast you're going...etc.

Lots of side benefits!!
:)

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Canon General / Re: People that don't shoot in manual...
« on: July 30, 2013, 12:32:55 PM »



I realize there are car afficionados out there who love their stick shift, but why not take advantage of the dual clutch auto and all the extra speed it gives you :).

Oh man..you had the analogy going VERY well, until the end there with the car attempt....<P>
:)

For a sports car, especially a high end sports car, you want a manual transmission...if not for resale value, but for performance.

You're generally gonna get the better times and stats with manual over automatic, if you know how to drive the manual...

I've never owned a car with auto transmission, and only one car have I ever owned had more than 2 seats (that one was an '86 911 Turbo, but those rear seats aren't really useable for anything but 2x bags of groceries).....

LOL...anyway, good thoughts on the camera, but ugh...a sports car with auto transmission? A waste of good steel....

:)

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Software & Accessories / Re: Importing images method...???
« on: July 29, 2013, 05:30:27 PM »
Hi All,

What methods do you use in importing your images from your camera to your computer hard drive?
Directly w/USB cord from camera to computer, card reader, etc.?

Any methods that would cause 'file/image corruption' more likely over the other?

Please state the reason for one over the other.

Thx!!

I got a no-name USB2 card reader off Amazon.com (my late 2011 MBP doesn't have USB3)....I just throw my cards (mostly CF) in there and put in my own directory structure.

From there, I have been using Aperture 3 to import them in and adjust them, but I just got CS6 Production Suite, and LR5..so, will start to use those going forward....but I prefer a card reader to trying to locate the camera USB cord, then clear a spot for my camera on the desk...etc...

Card reader just seems so much easier for me...after all, it is nothing more than simple computer file transfer...

C

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...... no need to push your opinion on others.

Isn't that kind of a necessary part of having a conversation?

If no opinions are "pushed"....this forum is gonna get mighty quiet.

:)

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Portrait / Re: Few Weddings over last 12 months.. C&C Welcome :)
« on: July 25, 2013, 01:18:20 PM »
Very nice!!

And...a nice change of pace, from the "bad picture rant" thread I've been on elsewhere on the forums....!!
:)

C

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Software & Accessories / Re: Who Adopted Adobe CC?
« on: July 25, 2013, 11:01:24 AM »
Quote
I was referring mainly, to the proprietary files for PS, the PSD and PSB files...you know the ones with all the layers, and work?

:)

My thoughts were if Adobe pulled the plug or changed and you didn't want to continue to rent, or something happened, you'd not be able to go back to any of your PSD files and reopen, reuse or re-edit....

I wasn't talking about the final deliver to customers files (jpg, etc)....but do you not ever reuse some templates or things you did in PSD files or do you throw them all away when you finish an image?
I'd use GIMP to open PSD files, it opens them out of the box.

Bernard

Will it open CC versions of PSD files I wonder in a lossless fashion?

I'm all for GIMP, I hope this Adobe move will actually give people incentive to contribute to ($$ and money) and support the more rapid development of GIMP. It is a great tool and I feel with more time and money thrown at it, it could likely be the first one to really rival PS, but it needs work.

I don't mind working with a different interface so much, but if they could get the higher level of functionality, and do 16 and 32 bit manipulations...it would be well on its way to being  a challenger.

Is there an Open Source analog to LR or Aperture?

C

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