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Software & Accessories / Re: Importing images method...???
« on: July 29, 2013, 05:30:27 PM »
Hi All,

What methods do you use in importing your images from your camera to your computer hard drive?
Directly w/USB cord from camera to computer, card reader, etc.?

Any methods that would cause 'file/image corruption' more likely over the other?

Please state the reason for one over the other.

Thx!!

I got a no-name USB2 card reader off Amazon.com (my late 2011 MBP doesn't have USB3)....I just throw my cards (mostly CF) in there and put in my own directory structure.

From there, I have been using Aperture 3 to import them in and adjust them, but I just got CS6 Production Suite, and LR5..so, will start to use those going forward....but I prefer a card reader to trying to locate the camera USB cord, then clear a spot for my camera on the desk...etc...

Card reader just seems so much easier for me...after all, it is nothing more than simple computer file transfer...

C

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...... no need to push your opinion on others.

Isn't that kind of a necessary part of having a conversation?

If no opinions are "pushed"....this forum is gonna get mighty quiet.

:)

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Portrait / Re: Few Weddings over last 12 months.. C&C Welcome :)
« on: July 25, 2013, 01:18:20 PM »
Very nice!!

And...a nice change of pace, from the "bad picture rant" thread I've been on elsewhere on the forums....!!
:)

C

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Software & Accessories / Re: Who Adopted Adobe CC?
« on: July 25, 2013, 11:01:24 AM »
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I was referring mainly, to the proprietary files for PS, the PSD and PSB files...you know the ones with all the layers, and work?

:)

My thoughts were if Adobe pulled the plug or changed and you didn't want to continue to rent, or something happened, you'd not be able to go back to any of your PSD files and reopen, reuse or re-edit....

I wasn't talking about the final deliver to customers files (jpg, etc)....but do you not ever reuse some templates or things you did in PSD files or do you throw them all away when you finish an image?
I'd use GIMP to open PSD files, it opens them out of the box.

Bernard

Will it open CC versions of PSD files I wonder in a lossless fashion?

I'm all for GIMP, I hope this Adobe move will actually give people incentive to contribute to ($$ and money) and support the more rapid development of GIMP. It is a great tool and I feel with more time and money thrown at it, it could likely be the first one to really rival PS, but it needs work.

I don't mind working with a different interface so much, but if they could get the higher level of functionality, and do 16 and 32 bit manipulations...it would be well on its way to being  a challenger.

Is there an Open Source analog to LR or Aperture?

C

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I'm not sure if this is a good deal or not, but sounded possibly interesting.

The coupon code is:  EMCXNVR92

I think you might have to register to get on their email list to use that code, but I tested it out in my cart , added the code and it was $2399 with kit lens.

www.newegg.com

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830120657

Item in cart, added coupon code to see the final price....and for me at least, is tax free.


cayenne

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: LensRentals.com Announces LensAuthority.com
« on: July 24, 2013, 09:53:21 PM »
Have any of you bought their used lenses? How did you feel about the price you paid? How was the lens you got with respect to the description of the shape it was in, etc?

Have you had to return one and was that a hassle? Did you get a refund or exchange?

Overall, what's the consensus of buying from them...good, bad, excellent?

Thanx,


Cayenne

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Canon General / Re: Bad Photography Rant
« on: July 24, 2013, 12:26:08 PM »
Many industries have well known certifications that businesses and/or individuals can obtain that represent a well know standard of skill, knowledge, and capability.  For example, in the networking industry Cisco certifications represent a level of accomplishment and competence in certain areas of network administration, security, etc.  Employers value these certifications.

I am not aware of something similar in the professional photography industry.  If there is, it isn't widely marketed to the point the general public is aware.

For example, if WPPI was able to market a certification program so that those looking for a wedding photographer felt it necessary to find one with this certification to feel comfortable they were getting a true professional, then a lot of the unqualified photographers would be more easily identifed.

In the tech field, the certification is pretty easy...there is generally ONE right way to do things.

I'm not sure how this would work for Photography or other "Artistic" things, where much of the value and appreciation of the final product is subjective.

While there are lots of wrong answers for photography, as we've seen on this thread and all around us, there is seldom one right answer for something, and it is quite difficult to test  and certify or license something that doesn't really have one right answer....

C

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Software & Accessories / Re: Who Adopted Adobe CC?
« on: July 24, 2013, 12:22:37 PM »


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Remember people that bought into MS Zune system, and the music store there? Zune went away, and those people that bought and paid for music...they're pretty much SOL now, that's lost money.
The media that "I" create today using Adobe products, isn't Adobe proprietary, JPEG, RAW, XML, HTML... So I'm not worried about this. Perhaps if somebody was to use Muse to create a website, this could be a problem ;)

I was referring mainly, to the proprietary files for PS, the PSD and PSB files...you know the ones with all the layers, and work?

:)

My thoughts were if Adobe pulled the plug or changed and you didn't want to continue to rent, or something happened, you'd not be able to go back to any of your PSD files and reopen, reuse or re-edit....

I wasn't talking about the final deliver to customers files (jpg, etc)....but do you not ever reuse some templates or things you did in PSD files or do you throw them all away when you finish an image?

C

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Software & Accessories / Re: Who Adopted Adobe CC?
« on: July 23, 2013, 05:23:49 PM »

ps. I've never bought music online either...especially since they don't easily sell lossless forms of it without DRM. I buy CD's still, I rip those to flac for the living room high end stereo, and then rip mp3 copies for lessor listening environments, like the ipod for the car or the gym...I prefer to buy the best I can get, and then rip copies as needed for the appropriate environment.

Check out amazon.com/mp3 256kbps and no DRM. It's all I've used for music for several years. I love it. When you make your purchase the default will say something about storing it in the cloud, but should be a button to download it to. It does require you to install their downloader app, but once it's on your system, it's yours to do with as you please.

Like someone else posted, those are mp3 files...they are a lossy format, you've lost information before you ever got them when they ripped them to mp3.

Those are ok for a portable player, or in the car...both horrible listening environments, but for my home stereo, where I can hear quality differences....I prefer the lossless versions, either off CDs or even if they've been ripped into lossless formats like flac (Apple has a lossless AAC or ACC don't they?)....

If they sold and let you download lossless versions without DRM, I'd be open to that....

cayenne

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Software & Accessories / Re: Who Adopted Adobe CC?
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:23:00 PM »
I jumped in this past June.

Looked at what it offered, I use PhotoShop, I use Lightroom, I use Dreamweaver, sooo !

I thought of another thing, I love the App stores and one specific aspect of them, I'm talking iTunes and Android stores, what I love about them, is I don't need to have tons of media around, with licenses printed somewhere, or saved in a file somewhere, when I need the app or application re-installed, I re-install it, and my identity identify me as a license owner.

If/when I rebuild my computer, I know I will not have to lookup CD/DVDs and licenses numbers(alphanumeric plates) in order to be able to install the software. I login to the CC, and pick what I need, that's it !

It's worth it for ME, perhaps not for others, you can't complain about a tool, if the tool is too expensive, or not to your liking for ANY reasons, the tool isn't for you, end of story, I don't use GIMP to edit photos, I never could get used to it, ME, somebody else it's more intuitive the GIMP way, perfect, we're two happy people !

The other advantage I find, is there's tools for all kind of tasks, if I get ask to do something, which I know I can, but don't have the software, I know that if CC has it, I can install a full version of it and use it, and uninstall it when I no longer need it.

It works for me ! ;)

Well, you probably better hold onto any information, codes, numbers that they give you even with CC....are you that trusting of Adobe that they won't lose your customer info, and if you need to rebuild that computer, they'll 100% remember it for you and allow you to re-install?

Do you trust them to never try to move everyone to the 'next great thing' and pull the plug on CC and you lose if you don't move to the next great thing?

Remember people that bought into MS Zune system, and the music store there? Zune went away, and those people that bought and paid for music...they're pretty much SOL now, that's lost money.

No one thought a company as big as Microsoft would ever fail on such a venture....but it did.

I've never understood those that "don't like media" cluttering things up. Unless you live in a one room shack with no closets, or shelves....is this a problem?

I love to have the physical media....I put it away and keep it for possible later needs. Hell, I often make at least one backup copy, or at least rip an image to put on a NAS system I keep just for this need.

I not only don't like to 'rent' software, but I don't like to depend on the good graces of a publicly traded company, who is NOT beholden to their customers (as many think), but to their ONLY master, the shareholders that demand a profit.

I'm happy this works for you. I'm sure it does for many.

I'm just not that trusting of a company. I'd rather have physical media that "I" control the destiny of, and at a later time, I can reuse it as needed on maybe  VM I create...etc.

cayenne

ps. I've never bought music online either...especially since they don't easily sell lossless forms of it without DRM. I buy CD's still, I rip those to flac for the living room high end stereo, and then rip mp3 copies for lessor listening environments, like the ipod for the car or the gym...I prefer to buy the best I can get, and then rip copies as needed for the appropriate environment.

I've not run out of room in the home yet due to all my "physical media".

:)


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Canon General / Re: Bad Photography Rant
« on: July 23, 2013, 02:34:03 PM »
Folks, I think this 1st video (in a series definitely WORTH watching), pretty much explains it all, when you need to know what it takes to be a professional photographer:

MWAC Attack-Episode 1: The Camera


Remember, if you wanna be a "Pro", make sure and use the "P" setting on your camera, as that THAT is the professional setting on your cameras.

Of course, most all of the quality folks here on the list knows this already.

:)

cayenne

ps. Do make sure and give this whole episode a watch, and the next ones are pretty 'informative' too.


She does not know enough to realize how little she knows....

P.S. the AUTO setting on the dial is for taking pictures of cars......


Well, don't stop at episode 1.  I've always been a bit afraid of posing, and well, Missy just tells how easy it can be!!

The next one is on accessorizing...and now I know how important it is for a professional photographer to have their camera strap match their photo bag.

No wonder I've never felt the confidence to ask for the big dollars!! I just did NOT look the part!!!

C


Missy MWAC’s (Mom With A Camera) real identity is Cheri Frost from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Missy MWAC’s (MWACAttack) very fast grown internet fame came from a series of four videos that lightly made fun of stay at home mothers that think they are photographers just because they own a higher end camera.


Say what you will, but I am looking forward to winding my way through the informational videos till I can get to the wedding and senior ones...those look amazing!!

C

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Canon General / Re: Bad Photography Rant
« on: July 23, 2013, 02:15:48 PM »
Folks, I think this 1st video (in a series definitely WORTH watching), pretty much explains it all, when you need to know what it takes to be a professional photographer:

MWAC Attack-Episode 1: The Camera


Remember, if you wanna be a "Pro", make sure and use the "P" setting on your camera, as that THAT is the professional setting on your cameras.

Of course, most all of the quality folks here on the list knows this already.

:)

cayenne

ps. Do make sure and give this whole episode a watch, and the next ones are pretty 'informative' too.


She does not know enough to realize how little she knows....

P.S. the AUTO setting on the dial is for taking pictures of cars......


Well, don't stop at episode 1.  I've always been a bit afraid of posing, and well, Missy just tells how easy it can be!!

MWAC Attack- Episode 2: Family Posing That's REAL Small | Large


The next one is on accessorizing...and now I know how important it is for a professional photographer to have their camera strap match their photo bag.

No wonder I've never felt the confidence to ask for the big dollars!! I just did NOT look the part!!!

C

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Canon General / Re: Bad Photography Rant
« on: July 23, 2013, 01:33:28 PM »
Folks, I think this 1st video (in a series definitely WORTH watching), pretty much explains it all, when you need to know what it takes to be a professional photographer:

MWAC Attack-Episode 1: The Camera Small | Large



Remember, if you wanna be a "Pro", make sure and use the "P" setting on your camera, as that THAT is the professional setting on your cameras.

Of course, most all of the quality folks here on the list knows this already.

:)

cayenne

ps. Do make sure and give this whole episode a watch, and the next ones are pretty 'informative' too.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Who Adopted Adobe CC?
« on: July 23, 2013, 11:29:52 AM »
Moral question - how would feel if a homeless person decided to move in with you - after they have place to live.  Or if someone who was hungry and unemployed/broke came into your home and took food.  Or if someone who was broke took $ out of bank account or you pocket.   Not too happy I'll bet.   In a way you are doing this to Abode.

This isn't the same thing at all. Not paying a licensing fee for a digital copy of a work is not the moral equivalent of taking money out of someone's account or pocket or stealing a physical item.  And while I have not yet licensed PS, I am a paying customer for Lightroom 4 and 5. I make no money for my photography at this time and use PS very little, so to put my situation in terms of your example, I am the roommate who pays rent, but bums some of your food. The real problem with Adobe's pricing in general is that it doesn't work well or at all for hobbyists. They could remedy this in CC better than they ever could before with a real pay-as-you-go plan. They could charge $3-4/hour with a maximum monthly charge of the normal subscription rate.

This just shows that you can rationalize just about anything if you try hard enough.

I've been an early and consistent critic of the CC system, but let's not rationalize away stealing.

I'm sure there are plenty of wedding and portrait photographers who would disagree with the premise that it's okay to take a digital copy of their work and not pay for it. No difference between stealing a company's software than stealing another photographer's pictures.

But, it's okay, because you paid for another product from the same person? Hey, I bought a portrait from you last year, so I should be able to steal these wedding pictures, right?

And, it's okay because you don't make money from photography and only use the product on occasion? Hey Canon, I don't make any money from photography, so it's okay if I steal this 1D-X, especially because I'm only going to use it occasionally.

If you want to steal things, at least be honest about it.

I hate the Adobe CC model. It's a one-size-fits-all solution in an era in which customers are demanding flexibility and customized pricing models. Adobe is swimming upstream against the current with their experiment and there are already signs that it isn't working for them.

You are correct in that one huge problem with Adobe's pricing models is that it doesn't accommodate the "enthusiast" market. Rather ironic, since Canon, Nikon, etc., have all found that to be their most lucrative market. It's a terrible strategy on their part and I think they will regret the decision.

But please, it's frankly too ironic for words for any digital photographer to defend stealing electronic data. What do you think pictures are made up of today?

I'm not going CC, in fact I'm now buying Production Suite CS6 and will stick with that for the foreseeable future.

However, one way I could reconcile the cracked copies would be.

1. You bought into CC, you stayed with it for long enough to 'pay' for a normal copy.
2. You wanted to quit CC, and you got a cracked copy for the version you currently are renting.
3. You continue to use cracked CC at that level..so you can continue to use and manipulate your software.

For that scenario, I don't see a problem....

In my case, I registered with a local college...about $30 for application fee and transcript copies sent in....I got a student picture ID, and a .edu email account.

I'm using that to get the educational version of the Production CS6 suite...saved about $2K on it....
I don't see anything wrong with that...I fulfilled what Adobe needed for approving student pricing.

And I've read Adobe's FAQ, and the educational version is perfectly legal to use for commercial work.

My $0.02,

cayenne

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All of the Macbeth-style color charts are designed to help with camera calibration, which is different from white balance. They ensure that the relative hues of your R/G/B channels are accurate, but the image still won't be a perfect copy of 'reality' if the color temperature is out, so you need to apply the calibration profile and then pick the WB target. To benefit from these calibrations you need to be shooting raw, and to be using Lightroom - the Colorchecker app only reads DNG files.

Camera calibration is very important for commercial photographers, whose clients want their new car to be exactly the same shade of blue in the photo as it is in the showroom, but for general-purpose shots it's often very hard to see the difference (and if you're artistically manipulating the image, whether you start from accurate pixel values is less of an issue). If you're shooting several bodies (or old lenses with a noticeable color cast) then profiling them can allow you to match the colors in post. You can also use the chips as a proxy target for selective adjustment tools (there's a chip for each of the common colors in an image, from sky blue to skintone).

You can of course use the gray card on the X-Rite Passport for WB, but any gray card will do that. Sekonic's version is different from the normal Passport in that it has a 50% gray card instead of an 18% gray card - which makes it work for exposure checking as well as providing a WB target. Aside from that they're identical. What you can't do is sample white and black points off a Macbeth card (lots of people try to as there's a "black" and "white" chip on the card, but they're nowhere near pure 0,0,0 or 255,255,255 in the resulting photos).

If you shoot multi-cam video a Macbeth card is essential to match the footage, as the color profiles for different video and digital cinema cameras are totally different.

Thanks for the reply!!

I only shoot RAW (doesn't most everyone these days with a dslr?)....

And from watching the videos on the Xrite stuff, they said that you set the original profile in DNG, but after that, you can apply it to any images once you have the profile set. Until I saw that, that was going to be a hanging point on me.

I'm mostly interested in the light meter, and saw the bundle, and it appeared that since it was only a few $$ more to get the bundle, I might should go ahead and get it.  I figured I could use that color card and grey card for my video work too with the 5D3....to try to correct WB in post there too.

I'm a little worried about the gray card being 50% vs 18%...hmmm

I'm buying Adobe Production Suite CS6 and LR5 right now...so, I will be moving from Aperture to LR, and hence another reason I was looking at the Xrite stuff in the bundle...

Thanks, ya'll have given me a lot to consider here...

cayenne

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