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Another vote for Color Correction Handbook except most of it is extremely obvious and basic and, if you're serious about grading, you should be way beyond any of its techniques.

As for Resolve training, I have no idea! I need to make the transition from Color myself! I have heard that there are some good video series (Ripple, Lynda, I think?) online, but have not watched them.


Just wanted to make a quick update. I ended up getting both books listed in my earlier thread...geez, it is kinda like buying cards to send to friends, if I can't decide between two of them...I get them both.
:)

Anyway, started on the Handbook first:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321713117/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

And so far...WOW....very good stuff.
I read most of the first chapter....most for pro stuff with setting up rooms and very detailed monitor stuff. I'll do some room tx later...and my monitor, the Dell U2711 is top of my price range anyway....
But, starting with chapter 2....trying to finally learn my concepts. Still trying to grasp things like Gamma....and luma vs luminance....I'm still reading over and over to make sure I can get those concepts down, but well explained, it is just this is new stuff to me, so having to go over it a few times.

Anyway, thumbing ahead, this does look to be an excellent resource.

I'm a complete noob with editing and color correction/grading. Believe it or not...I think I'm actually a little more comfortable with what I've learned and tried on resolve, over the tools for color on FCPX....so, for now, I'm reading, trying to learn concepts, practice as I go....and right now, testing how well Resolve 9 Lite handles round trip workflow with sound and all from FCPX...so, far..so good, but I'm trying to learn where the boundries are in the round trip, to see how much I can get it fully edited...with sounds, cutaways...etc....before Resolve starts losing things.

Anyway...this was just supposed to be a quick update...started on the handbook, and if anyone else is interested in learning...especially the theory and WHY you do things, not just a primer of which button or dial to twist....so far, this Handbook is great!

HTH,

cayenne

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Canon General / Re: Space Shuttle Endeavour's Last Flight
« on: September 28, 2012, 01:31:18 PM »
I am in New Orleans...i was driving to work along Lakeshore drive...heard a roar...and looked up and saw the shuttle on the back of its just doing a banking turn just over my head.

Wow..what a cool thing to see...unfortunately, I was on the road driving and couldn't even get my iphone of my pocket while on the road...but I did slow down, and watch it as I could, since traffic was low where I was....

I wish I'd have known a bit better the timing and path...I found out later, if I'd stayed home a bit longer, it would have come over my house and I could have gotten some really good shots with my 5D3.....

Oh well...no pics from me, but it was quite thrilling.  2nd time I'd seen it on the back of a jet..first time was in Tucson, AZ about 1984 or so...saw it being transported between CA and FL...but back then, the shuttle was a bit newer.

 ;D

cayenne

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HDR - High Dynamic Range / Re: Post your HDR images:
« on: September 28, 2012, 12:08:44 PM »
A new one from last weekend.  This one has 18+ stops of DR.


End of the Road by @!ex, on Flickr


This one is great. Great handling of the range, without the oversaturation that I think many of these type of shots normally get. How and where can you see the DR range (since you mention 18+)?


Also..what software did you use to put this together?

cayenne

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I think only HTP and black frame subtraction do anything to the RAW file maybe other than tagging it with some settings.
HTP, that's what it was. There is some discussion as to whether or not the other settings have any effect, but, if you are shooting RAW, there is zero reason to have any of them on anyway.

Sorry noob question.
Can someone tell me what "HTP" and the "black frame subtraction" mean?

Thank you in advance,

cayenne

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Multiple Sensors for better Dynamic Range?
« on: September 25, 2012, 12:55:32 PM »


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It's definitely not a perfect camera (but there isn't really such a thing), but  I'm still interested.  I may end up opting for the MFT mount instead of the EF.  I'd probably end up shooting in 1080p ProRes most of the time, but true 1080p is still going to look much better than the 5D3.

I'd read something about them coming out with a different mount...the MFT.

What exactly is a MFT mount...and why would you want it over the EF? If not the EF, you'd not be able to use all your Canon glass...which is good stuff, no?

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Hello all,
I'm exploring currently for my 5D3 of using the cine or flat styles for shooting, in order to retain as much sensor information as possible for color correction/grading in post.

It occured to me that I'd not see any real discussions for stills, and I'm wondering if there are similar settings to use, or not? If not...why not for stills, but so much attention to it for video?

It seems to me, more and more, while you do indeed try to get as much as possible correct in the original exposure (exposure, composition, etc)....that pretty much everything else like color and all, is done 99% in post production.

It seems to me the same is the case for both video and stills, and I was wondering with that being the case, why there were not recommended 'flat' settings for stills...?

Thanks in advance for any explanations on this!!
:)

cayenne

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Canon General / Re: How many of us are making money out of photography ?
« on: September 20, 2012, 06:03:20 PM »
A few reasons I don't do it full time is that in the U.S., most photography jobs are your own business.  At least the ones that make money.  So then I lose health care and 401k.  I'm too scared to lose those I suppose.  I can't get the math to work out to make as much money or more, factoring this in, with just doing photography vs. a full-time job with benefits and 401k, and doing photography as a second job.  I'm sure it's done, I just don't know how and perhaps I don't have the "guts" to do it.

Just a bit of unsolicited advice....if you're making money from it at all....Incorporate yourself!!

I've done contracting work for my real job for quite awhile...computer stuff, database, coding, etc.
I incorporated myself in my state, and for federal, I applied for a "S" corporation.

Incorporating, allows you to keep a LOT of your own money. Yes, there is extra paperwork, but I find the trade off is worth it. Get a CPA to work with you, but keep records, log books (a small one in my car for recording odometer settings when I drive to/from work related gigs is invaluable)...you can write off mileage, you can write off equipment purchases (lenses, bodies, memory, computers and software for PP, etc...).

This alone will help you keep more of your hard earned money from the tax man. Don't go crazy, you don't have to, just record your stuff, and put it on your forms at EOY...that's what deductions are for.

If you go all on your own, your benefits and retirement are yours to manage. A little scary sure, but being in charge of your own destiny is a good thing.

First for health care, you can do what I have done in the past...especially if you are in decent health and this is FANTASTIC if you are young. You get a high deductible medical insurance policy, say around $1200 deductible. In the old days, they called this "Major Medical"...it is there only in case you get hit by a bus, or have a heart attack...something catastrophic.

If you have a high deductible insurance policy...that qualifies you to open up a HSA (Health Savings Account)...you can do this at your bank (oh, open a business account to keep $$ separate from you personal stuff). The HSA is NOT like a FSA you get it at work. It is NOT use it or lose it...it rolls over annually.

You can stuff as much as the limits each year (forgot what it is off hand this year) with PRE-tax money. You use this for your routine medical expenses (meds, checkups, office visits). This allows YOu to shop around for your health care.  This money grows with you...and it can even be invested to grow in the market...but some risk with that). Money left over at retirement...can be converted to retirement funds.

When I was doing this a couple years ago (still have company, but current gig is W2) I found that often when I went to a Dr...even once for a MRI, I told them I was paying for it, and they usually knocked off like 15% of the bill right there.

Also, do a little research. Often people will try to steer you into doing a LLC. I did the full corp thing filed as a "S" corp as mentioned above. This has tax benefits. Quickly for an example..it saves you on employment taxation (SS and medicare). Let's say you bill out for $100K for a year.
According to the IRS, you have to pay yourself a 'reasonable' salary. Let's say you pay yourself a salary of $40K. You pay state, federal and SS and medicare on that $40K. At EOY, the rest of the total, the $60K falls through on your personal taxes...you only have to pay fed and state on that, but none of the employment taxes on it. Of course, that $60K is whittled down by all your deductions for expenses (mileage, purchases, any legitimate business expenses).

Again, get a CPA...you can write that off too, and they will help you to do a lot of this. Also, invest in one piece of software...Quickbooks. It makes it easy to track expenses, your payroll to yourself, dividends your write to yourself, and at EOY, you dump a file out to send to your CPA.

I started with a local lawyer, paid him about $200 and gave a name for a company...in a couple weeks, he handed me all the forms filled out, state paperwork and I had a company. You can do this on your own...I went the easy way. I didn't make squat for the first 3x years of the company, but I did write a lot off. I started making money through it after that.

Yes, it is more paperwork, but once you learn it...it becomes routine, and you can reap the benefits.

Do a little investigation...and start today if you are earning ANY money on the side. You can start writing things off...AND, if nothing else, it gives your personal assets protection, in case something happens while you are on a shoot and something goes wrong.

I hope that helps a bit....your mileage may vary, but IMHO...incorporating and doing a bit of paperwork is about the ONLY way you can keep as much of your hard earned dollars to yourself. Those laws are on the books....take advantage of them.

HTH,

cayenne

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Regarding the picture style for the 5D3. I have used Technicolor Cinestyle a lot and have recently gone back to my favorite "flat" style: Marvel 3.4 (I knock the contrast down to its lowest, below its default level). To me, Marvel is only a little better than the one that gets suggested most often: Neutral (0, -4, -2, 0), which is the Canon built-in neutral style, with sharpness all the way down at 0, contrast all the way down at -4, saturation down by 2 clicks below 0, and the last one I don't even recall, since I've never seen it set to anything other than zero!


Thank you and the others for the great response!!

Do ya'll have any links to good sites showing how to set up the Marvel, Neutral and Faithful settings on the Canon 5D3?

I figured Resolve 9 Lite would be fun to learn, and the free lite version...really has everything the paid for version does (no node limitations) except for using a bunch of processers and other high end computing power I'd have no use for....

I found this one book that looked to be just released and hoping it is more Resolve 9 specific:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Technique-Digital-Color-Correction/dp/024081715X/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3V9PVCC4ABLEP&coliid=I2BPGR0I07DFMS By Steve Hulfish.

I found the other book you mentioned, by Hurkman:
http://www.amazon.com/Color-Correction-Handbook-Professional-Techniques/dp/0321713117/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3V9PVCC4ABLEP&coliid=IGR7W5RN9SYK9 But was a bit concerned that with a publish date of 2012...it might be a bit outdated with apparently so much happening in the past couple years...?

Anyway, thank you for the info so far!!

If ya'll have some good links to the flat settings you mentioned I could read more about, I'd greatly appreciate those!!

cayenne

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On POTN there have been a few 120-300OS failures dealing with the OS and AF systems so that's likely where the upgrades are plus the focus limiter switch.
I'm a bit of a noob...why would you want a focus limiter at all? What does that do for you?

TIA,

cayenne

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Hi all,

I've recently downloaded and installed Davinci Resolve Lite. I'm trying to teach myself color correction and grading for using on content coming from my 5D3...

Does anyone have any recommendations on a couple of good books or sites out there?

Also, is anyone here using any particular 'flat' setting for shooting video on their 5D2's and 5D3's? If so...what's your favorite?  I was thinking of trying to find those simple settings for flat in camera I'd read awhile back (cant' find the link)...but was just the one you could set, not the cinema ones put out by technicolor...

But anyway, not finding a lot on youtube for the new Resolve 9 Lite, nor really ingeneral about color correction and grading....using curves, doing this or that for contrast....'looks'....etc.

Thanks in advance,

cayenne

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I have a macbook pro (late 2011) with 16 GB ram, 2.4 GHz quad-core Core i7, 15" high resolution screen...

I have this hooked up to a Dell U27 Ultrasharp Monitor 27" (2560 x 1440) IPS , factory-tuned AdobeRGB and sRGB modes. running over a display port cable hooked to the Thunderbolt connection of the macbook.

I am trying to find a way to run dual monitors off my macbook...but this might not be possible, unless I get a couple of the Apple branded 27" thunderbolt displays to replace the Dell U2711. The apple and dell monitors share the same IPS screen...same manufacturer.

cayenne

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Software & Accessories / HDR softwarefor Aperture: Hydra vs Photomatrix
« on: September 10, 2012, 04:25:37 PM »
Hi Folks,

I'm looking to experiment with HDR, and have Aperture 3. I've found 2x plugins that seem to be what I might want (or I'd like other suggestions if you have them!!)....Hydra and Photomatrix.

http://www.hdrsoft.com/

http://www.creaceed.com/hydra/about

Could ya'll give me opinions of them, pros/cons....comparisons? Other options?

Thanks in advance,

cayenne

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Video & Movie / Re: Time Laspe Program?
« on: September 09, 2012, 06:23:37 PM »
How big were the original JPeG files? If you're shooting full high resolution then storing hundreds or thousands of 18MP or 21MP JPeGs then importing to Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 or Photoshop CS6 it could cause some issues, especially if you don't have a lot of RAM on your computer.

When shooting time-lapse it is better to shoot smaller file sizes. Plus what video output size is your sequence e.g. I usually output 1080p (1920  x 1080 = 2MP) which is still a lot smaller than the smallest file size on my Canon 7D

Hmm...I shot mine with the smaller RAW file....and was nice to be able to do some post processing work on them, before making them into a time lapse....

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The issue is that transferring pictures into Aperture (or using Image Capture) fails while the firmware upgraded 40 STM is mounted. With any other lens attached, file transfer works as normal.

Doesn't seem to matter what lens the photos were taken with; I was trying to transfer a mix taken with the 40 STM and the 100L Macro. Even transferring a single image taken with the macro into Aperture with the 40 mounted would hang for a long time and then fail.

I believe that in order to have the card(s) appear as disks to OS X, you have to have EOS Utility working. This is a no-go in my case because I'm running Mountain Lion. I never shoot tethered, so that wasn't an upgrade concern.
No...none of the EOS utilities are required to move files directly off the cards from a card reader that I know of....<P>
A file, is a file, is a file to any OS on a computer....give it a try with just a card reader.

That being said...strange behavior indeed with camera to computer with that one lens...but to work around it, get a card reader. I got one cheap for like $25 or so off Amazon.com...usb2....fast enough for me...

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: Wedding Photography Photos - 5d MK III
« on: August 22, 2012, 08:29:06 PM »
some more of mine...

http://youtu.be/5EodmkzHVV0








Very nice.
One slight thing that came to mind on the video....I might have ducked the volume of the music down a good bit more while the groom was speaking near the beginning so you could hear him better.....?
But again, quite nice!!

cayenne

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