Hmm...I'm a bit confused, you're saying ProRes is lossless (as in no loss of information), but on wikipedia it says it is a lossy format.
So, I'm confused....doesn't make sense to me that you would want to use lossy formats before your final putput. I mean with stills, you stay with and edit with RAW to have the best possible information, and only when your finished you output in a lessor format (jpeg usualy).
I'm surprised to hear that the use of what appears to be a lossy format, ProRes is used for editing before output. Or, is wiki pedia wrong on this one and ProRes is really lossless?
Thanks in advance!!!
Prores is a standard for editing and there won't be any perceivable differences in quality. Your thought process is a little overkill for DSLR footage, it's 8-bit 4:2:0 H.264, it's lossy by nature and can't really get any worse to start with. More or less a lot of the stuff you are reading just doesn't apply to DSLR's since they aren't actual video cameras.
Also, if you're shooting in ALL-I, you don't need to optimize media. The whole point of shooting in ALL-I is that it's already optimized for editing, it's not about better image quality at all. I've seen lots of test results and pretty much all of them found that IPB looked equal or better to ALL-I. I shot ALL-I on one shoot and never did again and haven't ever had the desire to again.
Trust me I've tried every different conversion/workflow possible with DSLR footage to squeeze the most image quality out of it as possible, and there is nothing that will make you say "wow that's a big difference, I'm sticking with that!" If you want to take advantage of the stuff you're talking about you need to get a real video camera.
More or less, if you were to shoot in ALL-I and do all these conversions, and then were to shoot the same thing in IPB and just pull the H.264 files into FCPX and not convert anything, then export, you probably wouldn't be able to see a difference in the resulting files at all. Now if your movies were getting projected on a 100 inch screen or if it was for broadcast or something it may be worth doing all that stuff, but if it's just for the web it wont make the slightest bit of difference.
All of this round tripping and using Resolve and stuff is just way overkill for DSLR stuff, you should be able to do everything you need to within FCPX. DSLR footage is compressed from the getgo and you can only do a minimal amount of color correction before the image starts to degrade, and that threshold is way below FCPX's capabilities so going to resolve is unnecessary. It's like going to After Effects to make a simple 2D plain white piece of text, you can do that in FCPX much faster and just as well so why complicate things? Simplify your workflow and only try to branch out when you are absolutely sure what you are trying to accomplish cannot be done within your NLE.
I've edited almost 400 music videos in the last couple of years and aside from using After Effects here and there I never once went outside of FCPX for color correction. If you want to expand FCPX color controls get Magic Bullet Looks, but throwing Resolve into the mix is just complicating things. Now if you had a Blackmagic Design Cinema Camera that was shooting 12-Bit 4:2:2 RAW, then yes, it would be worth using Resolve, but not for 8-Bit 4:2:0 compressed footage.
Thanks for the input..as always, sage suggestions and information.
The Resolve thing is two fold....one, I want to learn it. And two, I find the controls for color correction MUCH more intuitive than using the little slider things in FCPX. The notion of Resolve's nodal system is much easier for me to get a feel for, the tracking and all for masking is vastly superior and easier for me to use to make up for some many mistakes I've made in shooting (it really helped on some over exposed stuff I had to try to isolate, etc).
I've just shot my last project with ALL-I....so, guess so I can use Resolve, I'll do the optimize thing so I can use Resolve. Again, there are a couple of reasons I want to use it, and one is I seem to grasp the concepts with the controls and workflow of Resolve better than I do with FCPX, and it is free and quite powerful. And I've got some color grading books I'm following along with, and they tend to work better with the color wheels and other types of controls that are on Resolve and not on FCPX.
I love FCPX, but I find their new 'twist' on the color tools to be one of the things that is not as intuitive to me...especially when trying to learn about color theory, etc. But hey, everyone's brains are wired differently,eh?
I think I'll switch to take some footage in the IPB, and see what difference that makes.
I'll go with the ProRes thing here for awhile then...and see how it goes.
I am, however, excited about the upcoming 5D3 firmware upgrade that will allow uncompressed HDMI coming out of the camera into an external recorder. That should prove to make for some interesting shooting...
Again, thank you for the excellent advice and information.