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1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: April 05, 2014, 09:51:17 PM »
Great Crested Grebe, Mating dance I
600mm f4L IS II, 1.4xIII extender
1/1000s, f13, ISO800

you nailed these shots!  very nice!

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Animal Kingdom / Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« on: April 05, 2014, 09:50:01 PM »
Hello,
newby here and it's been wonderful seeing all the wonderful photos posted :)  Here are a couple of mine taken in my backyard through a window.  Taken with Canon 5D II with 70-200 IS 2.8.  Had to really crop these in.  Looking to add at least a 400 MM to my gear but for right now, doing lots of practicing of BIF

nice...maybe look at a 1.4x?

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These are the questions:

Third, what is your development path as a photographer?  One good wedding shoot doesn't make you a pro, and I'm speaking from experience as an occasional second-shooter.  Even if you have no legal obligation to the pro, you may still want his help, or the help of other pros to develop.  You've probably got a ways to go, and you don't want to have to climb that mountain solo.

As an addendum, this is also a test of your pro's ethics: if you approach him neutrally and say "the client contacted me and wants my photos" (without disparaging his), you'll find out what kind of person he is.  If he says "all your pictures are mine even though we never discussed it" then you've learned a relatively cheap lesson about where not to go for your continued development: this guy is not interested in your development at all.  If he says "hey, we had no agreement, they're your photos," then you've just established a trust relationship with a good guy, and it might lead to future collaboration and development.


Orangutan....your third point and addendum are both very good pieces of advice.


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This will rile a lot of people up, but you should sell them at the prices you are looking for, you sent him images and he liked them ao you know the shots are good.  I would ignore all the protectionist bull that has been spouted in this thread, the bride likes your stuff so sell it to them and move on.

Fats

Fats...I'm not impressed with your views on professionalism and integrity.

There is no way that the "oral agreement" between the OP and wedding pro included having the OP sell his photos to the bride, thereby undermining the wedding pro, and probably adding insult to the injury.

So taking the course of action that you suggest would be lacking in professionalism and integrity.  IMO




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Animal Kingdom / Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« on: April 05, 2014, 07:07:52 AM »
From 2 years ago. A Common Goldeneye (Bucephala clangula).

Wonderful! Goldeneyes are so handsome, but I never manage to get close - round here, they stay away from people, bobbing out of reach in the middle of lakes :(

And given how fast ducks fly, getting a shot like that is doubly impressive :)

Thanks, scyrene!
I find larger birds quite easy to shoot in flight - if they're within decent reach - since they are rather predictable in the way they fly. As far as a I can remember, with this Goldeneye I could hear him taking off, and I just stood looking at the reeds to see where/if he should pop up, and found him flying in a smooth circle around me. Aimed and shot as I was spinning around and it turned out ok with the suns direction, clean sky as background and so forth.

I have a few spots where I can get fairly close to various birds without disrupting them. Equipped with 97-98% patience, and some 2-3% luck there have to be some keepers.
Don't give up, you'll get yours!

Nice photo Domino...and good story too!

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Animal Kingdom / Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« on: April 05, 2014, 07:05:21 AM »
1Dx
420mm F5.6 1.4x Extender
1/2000 sec.
ISO 400

Wonderful shot evilzeev!

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Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« on: April 05, 2014, 07:03:36 AM »
First Great Blue Heron seen this year.... the shot was through a chain link fence and focused so as to make the links of the fence almost invisible. If you look closely at the picture you can make them out... they are the slightly brighter diagonal diamond pattern.

Pretty good result considering the chain fence in the way!

After seeing this, I guess I won't worry as much anymore about a little dust on the front element.  ;D

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not irked. just trying to help.
you are right- i have not seen a comparison of the d4s and 1dx.
Apologies if i came across wrong.

No it's fine, but you did own the D4.  Tell me more about that?  I'm not wanting to switch camera systems, but I definitely would like to rent the D4s and a lens anyway, just for kicks.  Hopefully sometime this summer.

The only real world test I can recall, that I liked watching...was a video done by two Canadian wedding photogs, where they compared a 1DX and a D4, both with 70-200 lens mounted...comparing the autofocus speed and accuracy...and comparing how many sharp shots they could get in a limited time...by holding the shutter button down and going back and forth between a close subject and a distant subject.  They were on a rooftop.  Not saying this was scientific, but it was an interesting real world comparison.  I'd like to do a similar test against my cousin's 1DX, if he will cooperate...lol.

I agree that it would be fun to have each in hand with a 70-200 attached for a comparison test!

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Would the pro have let you come if he or she knew you were going to be selling your photos to the bride?

Answer....of course not. 

You're only in this situation because the pro was being nice to you and trying to help you with your career/interest in wedding photography.   The pro did you a favor by letting you come and shoot the wedding to learn.

This was a "handshake deal", honor your end of it by giving the photos to the pro and expect nothing in return other than the experience and learning you asked for.


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First of all I'm a portrait photographer and I've got experience, I know what's composition and all the sweet things that we care about. Second I didn't sign any contract with him and he told me that I could post the photos on my website. I went there to understand how weddings work and I wasn't hired as an assistant (but he told me you are coming as an assistant).
During the wedding the bride was a bit annoyed about the posing shots that he was trying to create and she was asking for more candid shots. I'm not saying I'm better than the pro and I will never say that, I don't even want to undermine him. I sent him about 40 photos the day after the wedding and he called me up telling me that he was impressed for my first wedding experience. At the end of this I just would like to be rewarded for this little success because I'm not making a living out of it.
By the way I don't like the way the pros use their assistants, people who make a living out of it should pay for their help. It is just fair. Sometimes when I have to do paid jobs I ask a friend to come along and I give him/her some money even if it's a $200 job.

You wanted to learn and he allowed you to be his assistant so you could get experience. Your ego has colored your view of what is the right thing to do.

Your comments/description show that you feel he did things that you would never do. We are all different and we can all learn from each other. You would have handled that situation differently? But he got the job and you didn't. Must say something about his ability. If you can do it better then start your own business.
Meantime thank him for allowing you to go to the wedding to practice (because that is what you were doing).
Give him the pics you took, free, and let him get the congratulations on a job well done.
Your ego has been massaged by the bride which should be sufficient to inspire and motivate you to do better and go into the wedding business.

Paul
Better to be friends with all the people you meet on the way up because you might meet them again on the way down.
I have shot as a second shooter. My pics belong to the pro who allowed me to shoot.
If the bride was to call me I would refer her to the pro.

+1

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Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« on: April 03, 2014, 09:37:44 AM »
not sure what kind of bird this is but i caught him peeking at me from around a tree branch.

pretty little thing

5d3 and 70-200 2.8ii   



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Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« on: April 03, 2014, 09:15:24 AM »
hummingbird taking a rare rest...

5d3 and 70-200 2.8ii at 200mm

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Landscape / Re: Deep Sky Astrophotography
« on: April 03, 2014, 08:31:38 AM »
I reworked my Rosette Nebula image with a new software package called PixInsight. A VASTLY superior product for astrophotography, it gives me so much more control over everything, and allows me to tweak specific layers and scales of detail independently without messing with my color balance. This version of Rosette is much more color accurate than the nearly monochrome-red version that I posted before...and it has a bit more color contrast, so certain details should be easier to see than before:




simply fantastic!  it feels like i'm looking at it through an ultra powerful telescope.

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Photography Technique / Re: 1D X - 12 FPS or 14 FPS?
« on: April 02, 2014, 08:44:17 PM »
almost always at 12 fps.

i've experimented with 14fps and MF on a select spot...it's cool, but too limited.  12 fps is fast enough.

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Animal Kingdom / Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« on: April 02, 2014, 01:59:04 PM »
the hummingbird an the owl are outstanding !!!!!

My first posting here
BIF, yes for sure....  :D

1. bif heron


2. ist nearly landed allowed ?


Both made wirh Tamron 150-600VC


nice photos!   how did the Tamron work for BIF? 

welcome!

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