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Lenses / Re: Have you one of the new 24-70 f4 canon lenses, Is it good

« on: February 02, 2013, 05:54:09 AM »

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Where in the world these folks are coming from saying the 24-105 IQ is better than the 24-70 f/4, either don't own the 24-70 f/4 or they are trolls.  The IS on the 24-105 is old 2nd generation and does not hold a candle to the new 24-70 f/4 and 70-200 f/2.8 MkII.  This hybrid IS is rock solid.

I just wish the naysayers would come out and honestly say whether they have actually shot with the lens or not.  Further, on an actual shoot and not shooting a bunch of test circles....

I like how people as dissing something new without actually trying it.  I agree with you, either post comparison shots from the lenses or just... ah never mind.

This reminds of when the 70-300L just came out and I got it.  Some people were saying why did I get it because the 70-200 F4 IS is much better.  They also complained about the price.  Then a bunch of positive reviews from people who actually shoot with the lens, and it turns out it's actually a really good lens. I wonder if those are the same people dissing the 24-70F4 IS now.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo

« on: January 04, 2013, 03:56:13 AM »

...IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.

I can complain all I want... and I will give my opinion, and my opinion of your opinion.  And I will stick with Canon and the products that make sense and are relatively well priced.  This is not it, and I will, as I see fit, complain about it wherever I want!

If you don't want to read my complaints, don't read them, but don't tell me not to complain.
Rafa.

Apparently you are a complainer & you like the useless debates, Complain whatever you want about Canon, me, my comments with yourself but please stop filling the forums with you moaning posts. 

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo

« on: January 03, 2013, 05:33:48 PM »

...any way if any body don't like don't buy it there is no need for complaining or whining...

This is, precisely, a place to actually discuss and disagree about opinions, ideas and the decisions behind Canon's new products.  Also, many people eagerly await new releases, precisely, because they usually address key downsides or shortcomings of previous products.

That is why several people are complaining about this product (with good reason, IMHO).  Most everyone was expecting that, given the shorter range and identical luminosity of the 24-105, this would be significantly better in IQ to justify both the release of a newer product with shorter range and its at-release higher (MUCH! higher) price tag.

According to initial pre-views, it appears this lens does NOT fill those expectations.  Furthermore, Canon has, as of late, given many mind-baffling products: the very-expensive, very-slow but ISed 24, 28 and 35.  On the other hand, it has delayed what seems like forever the products people actually where looking for, like the 200-400, so many loyal Canon customers are really NOT happy with the trends of late.

I will repeat myself here, but I cannot see who would be seriously (and massively at that) interested in this lens.  Of course there are people here and there, but I can't see lots of people flocking to this lens if you can have the 24-105 for half the price!  Even if the IQ of the 24-70 is a bit better (which still remains to be seen and I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt), paying twice as much for half the range and identical luminosity only for the macro option is kind of absurd.

I follow several sites and forums dedicated to photography and this is a general trend.  Incidentally, those other lenses I mentioned 24 f2.8, 28 f2.8 and 35 f2 have received equally bellow-expectation marks, and places like POTN with over 100K members, do not show anyone using those $800 lenses.  I feel this will be the same for this ultra expensive de-buffed 24-105 .  So Canon either missed the specs, or missed the price point.  The combo of both makes this lens really not very appealing to anyone other than the people that really need to have the latest for no other reason than being new.

Best regards,
Rafa.

A lot complain about 5D MK III and how it is expensive & inferior to Nikon D800 at the end so many people get it and happy with it. So it doesn't matter how bad it is in some people opinion no need to create a huge story of it. IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS Available January 7, 2013

« on: January 03, 2013, 04:50:47 PM »

It actually isn't that much more expensive than the 24-105 MSRP of $1,149.00 USD

Comparing MSRP to MSRP, the new lens is 30% more expensive than the 24-105.

Comparing current street prices, it is 100% more expensive ($1500 compared to $750).

My point was this lens is new, and it's "life cycle" hasn't even started. Every product that is released doesn't need to be pre-order purchased by every consumer. I don't need this lens, so I wont buy it.

I won't be shocked if I can buy this lens for 1K in 8 years from now. And I won't be shocked if this lens ends up in a kit in the future. That's all I was saying.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo

« on: January 03, 2013, 04:45:43 PM »

I'am so excited about this lens specially for it is Macro capabilities,

You may be better off getting the 100L if macro is your thing. I wouldn't get this lens for serious macro work.

Small size regarding the IQ i'am sure it will be better than the 24-105 F4L i don't believe the theory of a new product worse than the old one also i don't care about web sites reviews.

History is littered with examples of companies coming out with products worse than earlier offerings. Not all web site reviews are worth reading, but I wouldn't discount all of them either.

The price is high but for me still cheaper than getting 2 lenses, any way if any body don't like don't buy it there is no need for complaining or whining. 

Well, thanks for your unquestioning support for Canon. Hopefully it means Canon has to ding the rest of us less to please its shareholders.

- I don't have a serious macro work so i am not interested to get a dedicated macros lens.
- I didn't see a product comes out with less specification or less capabilities maybe worse build quality or something like vista has less stability than Windows XP but still newer OS with more features.
- at the End this my opinion & that is yours why should i complain if i don't like it i will regret my purchase then i will  sell it simple as that.
"unquestioning support for Canon" why because i am interested for the lens?

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6D Sample Images / Re: Anything shot with a 6D

« on: January 03, 2013, 04:34:13 PM »

Nice Details

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6D Sample Images / Re: Anything shot with a 6D

« on: January 03, 2013, 04:32:43 PM »

Some little tests

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo

« on: January 03, 2013, 04:11:02 PM »

I'am so excited about this lens specially for it is Macro capabilities, Small size regarding the IQ i'am sure it will be better than the 24-105 F4L i don't believe the theory of a new product worse than the old one also i don't care about web sites reviews.
The price is high but for me still cheaper than getting 2 lenses, any way if any body don't like don't buy it there is no need for complaining or whining. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 6D launch and effect on 5D MkII & MKIII

« on: November 23, 2012, 03:07:48 PM »

For me definitely i will Get the 6D over 5D MK II : (HDR - Multiple exposure - better autofocus - better low light performance - ability to update lenses like 40mm pancake - WiFi - GPS - smaller size)

Things i wished for (7D autofocus system but since it has features like acceleration & deceleration tracking system Etc... i guess it will be far better than my T2i - No built in flash but i will get EX90 since it has master function wireless trigger)

regarding dual card slots i don't really care but better have it than not.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: DPreview adds 6D sample images to their preview

« on: November 19, 2012, 08:16:51 PM »

Agree with x-vision
6D sample is better
Very very Cool 

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: DPreview adds 6D sample images to their preview

« on: November 19, 2012, 07:26:35 PM »

I like the low light performance u can get useful photo at ISO 102,000 Cool

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon unveils 24.1MP D5200 DSLR with optional WiFi

« on: November 06, 2012, 07:47:44 AM »

But since Nikon announce there cam thats mean Canon will follow it in a short time i hope they release 70D or 7D MK II

well and what if canon plays the usual game?

imagine the 70D and 7D MK II really get the "hybrid" 650D sensor.
plus a few gimmicks of course.

or the same sensor technology as the 650D but with 20-22 MP.

of course for 300$ more then the latest models.

It will be their fault i don't care if they lose money that will give them a hard lesson.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon unveils 24.1MP D5200 DSLR with optional WiFi

« on: November 06, 2012, 06:32:36 AM »

Good to see Nikon going on rampage right now that better for us as a costumers, but anyway this camera will cost 1,150$ it is 350$ more than the Canon 650D and even more expensive than the 60D.

But since Nikon announce there cam thats mean Canon will follow it in a short time i hope they release 70D or 7D MK II

cheers

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon is out foxed.

« on: September 15, 2012, 11:00:06 AM »

Nikon and Sony have completely out foxed Canon.

Totally irrelevant. What matters is if they out sell Canon.  For the past several years, they have demonstrated a complete lack of ability to do so.  Keep in mind, superior technical specs aren't the whole story - if they were, Betamax would have beaten VHS.

Agree since in there latest financial report says there interchangeable lens cameras units sales increased 47% compared to last year for the same period. I guess they have nothing to worry about.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Announcement Soon? [CR1]

« on: September 07, 2012, 06:32:28 PM »

I hope it has 5D MKIII sensor with same quality & low light performance with 7D features including Wireless flash trigger & HDR then it will be day one purchase