what I really dont want to see
- frickin novelty junk for the noobs like movable screens, lie down or stand on a chair or shoot blind, those screens are camera killers if you have to use your camera in any kind of weather.
- HDR pano sweep junk functions.
- a high speed fps. nikon make a general use camera, the d700, its pretty fast and has a decent resolution, canon make two specialized cameras, the 5d is a way better landscape cam and the 7d a better (but not by far) action cam. Lets keep it that way and not turn a 5d3 into a generalized camera.
Noobs? The 5DII revolutionized the video DSLR market. A swivel screen makes perfect sense, even for stills. Live view is much better for manual focus. Lie down? Stand on a chair? Shoot blind? Why be such an elitist snob when you can just choose to not use these functions?
And if Digic V can handle a higher FPS, then bring it on. Why would you not want more FPS? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Not when Nikon's competing FF does 8 FPS gripped, and is already a year old.
I swear, some photogs come off like they want their hobby to have more barriers to entry. It's bizarre. There are compacts out there that warn you of someone blinking during a group portrait, no need to zoom and pan to check. A buried menu function that turns on a handy beep code for this would be cool for those of us who think $3,000 should buy similar features as a $200 P&S. I want 3, 5, and 7 frame automatic in-camera HDR. I want pano-stitching. I want a crop option on my FF. I want a 300 page owners manual. For people like you, I will concede that all these goodies come "off" by default. You never need to know they are there. You can just grind your teeth and agonize over the sight of "noobs" running around with a camera that you wish only you could own and operate.
Nothing to do with barriers or short manuals. The screen would compromise the weatherproofing and the strength of the body. I need my camera to work in the rain. The 5d2 and 7D and 1 series have no issues with rain. Pros have been making great pictures for years without a swivel screen?
It may be your hobby, its my job, so yes I take it a little more seriously than somebody playing at it.
I have no issues with them increasing the use for video, but don't compromise its main purpose, as a stills camera. If the function really doesn't compromise the camera than fine, otherwise leave it in the cheap compacts. And you need a function to tell you if someone blinked? Theres a few VERY easy ways to ensure nobody blinks. Many videographers are also using external monitors with their dslrs to aid in focussing and framing which are considerably better than the rear lcd screen.
HDR? Check out Peter Lik. nd grads
Sure better bracketing would be good. I've never understood why nikon do it and canon don't, but why bother having the camera mess about with stitching panos and tonemapping HDR's, just have them capture the info and do it on a pc that can make a better job of it? I've seen some of the sony auto pans and they just aren't sharp. It sounds good but it doesn't deliver. Seriously, why not leave the processing to the several thousand dollar pc with great software?
I thought I explained the whole lower fps, perhaps you were drowning in your own vitriol. Sure if they can do it, it MAY not hurt. I just don't want them merging the 5d and 7d lines. Nikon have a general use camera in that price point, canon have two specialized cameras. Part of what attracted me to the 5d2 was that its sensor was a world apart from the d700's. I would not like to see them compromise that. Canon make video cameras, canon make film cameras. The 5d2 did a great job at stepping between the two but it is primarily a stills camera. If canon compromise its stills ability then its time to switch to nikon.
- wider af 'area'. Why bother having 'outer points' when they are so close to the center?
As I ]pointed out previously (closer to the beginning of this long-ish thread), there are technical reasons that the spacing of the AF points is so close to the center. The AF points on the 1DsIII cover the same extent (altough on the 1DsIII they are more densely packed and more sensitive and accurate). The 1D series (APS-H) does have a relatively wider spread of AF points than either the FF or APS-C cameras.
- the DP button switchable to a MLU button, who the hell uses DP???
I, for one, use the DoF Preview button - both for DoF preview and to activate modeling flash. When I'm going to use MLU, I'm on a tripod, and there are several other settings that go along with that - timer/remote trigger, fixed ISO 100, etc., so rather than a button for MLU and still having to use the quick display to set the others, it's easiest to just set up a Custom Mode (C# on the mode dial) for tripod shooting.
- number of af points. 3-9 is enough as long as they work well like the centerpoint on the 5d2.
I agree that 9 is probably enough for most situations. Three is not enough, no way. Having a denser array means better AI Servo performance for moving subjects. Personally, I like the approach of 'invisible' AF points in the 5DII (although a better solution would be to make them selectable via a C.Fn for those who want to select them. On the 7D, though, I only use the center point or a point on the edge, not the middle ones - and I'd rather not have to skip over them.
Re DP. Direct Print
not DOF. I find myself taking mlu on and off a lot. I just find it amusing that canon (despite being begged for years) do not even make it an option to change the DP to an MLU button. It cannot be that difficult to do.
Re Outer points, I didn't see your post but I presume its due in part to the size of the AF chip? I think I remember canon saying something about that and it further increasing the body size. Personally I believe it was a cost and marketing decision.