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United States / Re: High school Prom Photo shoot ideas/advice
« on: April 25, 2012, 11:07:33 PM »
Wow.. :o but I use the Canon Rebel XSi/450D(in those homecoming pictures, i used the nifty fifty) so I think it's ok to use an entry level dslr/cheap lens as long as you're able to deliver!

now to see if anyone would still want a photoshoot for $20 after my homecoming shoot being so cheap... heh heh heh

Thank you so much for your input! =D

United States / High school Prom Photo shoot ideas/advice
« on: April 23, 2012, 12:10:10 AM »
I haven't been on the forum for ages but I'm still active with photography. Next month I'll be doing prom pics for my friends!

I've improved since the homecoming shoot(a former post)... but my pricing hasn't got a chance to and I think it should change for prom. $5 for non friends and free for friends was the rate for homecoming. Here are a couple of my favorite shots:

How much should I be charging? We are high schoolers though. Middle class area. I've also gotten a request for a prom shoot for $5-$10 per person at our rival high school (one girl who came to my homecoming shoot moved and her friends saw her profile pic)

And any tips on group poses? I have ideas for couples but I'm still going to have to look through more on image portfolio sites for group guy/group girl shots to keep things different.

Any other words of wisdom?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why canon?
« on: January 20, 2012, 04:45:15 PM »
The one thing that I liked nikon for over canon was that I remember my photo teacher being able to take strobe shots using the in camera flash and i thought that was pretty cool, and easier than rushing over to flip the light switch, and most of the time nearly tripping over things in the dark. Do any of the canons have the strobe light flash capability?

But I do not regret at all getting into the canon system.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why canon?
« on: January 20, 2012, 03:40:13 PM »
When I first decided to get a DSLR, I knew it was either going to be Canon or a Nikon as that's what my photo teacher recommended.

Already, though, I was biased toward Canon because my favorite horse photographer was Bob Langrish and he used Canon.

I also searched and read tons of Canon vs Nikon threads before realizing that there is no way I'd get my decision based on that because there were strong proponents on both sides.

Then I looked at the online prices and Canon's lenses were generally cheaper than Nikon.

Finally, at Costco, there was a huge rebate on the Canon rebel xsi kit that included the gadget bag, memory card, 100 prints, kit lens and 55-250mm and so that was the ultimate trigger. It was cheaper than the nikon deal they had at the time.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 20, 2012, 03:30:42 PM »
My unsolicited suggestion: call your friend. Tell her you were wrong and realize you shouldn't have tried to take credit for her work. Then discuss how you can work together so that she gets the credit due her and you can still make a profit. She may be perfectly happy to let you make some money so long as she gets credit.

I took down the retouched/watermarked photo already and uploaded the unedited original and credited her but that made her even more mad.  :-[ Yeah, we originally scheduled to meet so I can apologize and resolve this mess except she misread the location and now I sure hope that didn't make her even more mad. I'll see her later today and get this resolved. Thanks unfocused.

And thanks to all who contributed to this thread! really interesting reading all these interpretations.

I sure hope I didn't offend anyone with any of my posts.  finding that i got my first negative karma point.   :o oops, sorry.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 20, 2012, 01:16:01 PM »
awinphoto: Wouldn't that go for my situation, too, or no? It's not going to change what I plan to do, but at least for my conscience's sake...

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 20, 2012, 12:35:02 PM »
unfocused: In samthefish's situation about his friend's dad, would you have also said his friend's dad should've owned the photo?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:37:04 PM »
The dad of a friend of mine was at the 1952 winter Olympics in Norway waiting to watch skiers come down the slope.  Next to him sees this guy with a bunch of photography gear.  The guy asks him if he knows how to shoot a camera and would he take photos with one of his cameras as skiers go by so he gets some extra shots(camera all set up, just frame and push the button).  Turns out he's from Life Magazine! 

Long story short one of my friend's/dads "photos" ends up in Life Magazine.  Photographer sends him a thank you letter with a print of the photo.   It's debatable who the photographer was but in this case ownership definitely went to the pro/Life magazine.


See I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I shot some photos at a convention and then I needed to get photos of fellow peers in their costumes. My friend doesn't know photography to understand what the settings are. But anyways so I switched the lens, set the settings, the subject posed, and taught her how to focus. And let her have the pleasure of shooting the photo, knowing I'll fix everything in post as we needed to get photos of other people. And I let her take more photos, giving guidance on where to take, move the camera down etc.. And so afterwards I cropped for better composition, I edited, I retouched the subject and put my usual watermark on it. And the next thing I know, I'm getting grief about taking credit for the photo I didn't take.  :-[ But now I have to hand over all the credit. It's kind of a pain as I needed those photos. This is the true reason why I made this topic.

In the end though, I think I'll just give in and say I'm wrong for everything I did. It's not worth losing a friendship over, but I think I learned my lesson on letting others use my camera for such situations. Though the situation brought up the curious question to which this thread began.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:14:20 PM »
This post is opening up a lot of spin offs, I'm loving it :-)

This opened my mind to so many more interpretations. I love hearing all of them too.  ;D

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 18, 2012, 04:12:06 PM »
Hmmm...the legal ownership would definitely take this thread in a different direction than I was going to take it.

I'm curious as to what you were going to say. ;D

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »
Well, in your example, it's all in the circumstances. The owner of the camera, which also happens ot be the person that input the settings, is "the photographer of that photo," . . .no matter if a bird comes along and happens to land on the shutter button.

If I were to lend the camera to a person and that individual input settings and then took the picture with my camera, THAT person would be the photographer.

And if, let's say I input the settings, give the camera to another person so they can shoot the photo, do I retain ownership of the photo or no?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:05:12 PM »
Just outta curiosity.. I've always wondered.. ;D

Let's say you have a person who just set his camera for a shoot. He fiddled with the settings and walked off to blow his nose. Then his kid/cat/dog/friend pushes the shutter button.

The person later post processes all the pictures including the one he didn't "take".

Who is the photographer of that photo?

Just had a curious thought. heh heh

Software & Accessories / Re: Starting out: Flickr? Picasa? PBase? Other?
« on: January 13, 2012, 07:37:51 PM »
On using these type of sites as a backup..  and to add to my previous reply, I was really happy that I saved a file on dA. On Flickr, apparently you can't download the original pic without upgrading to a pro account. But on dA i was able to recover the photo, after accidentally wiping it off my hard drive before backing it up on an external drive.

I use flickr and skydrive for photos I only want certain people to see thanks to the "guest pass" or private links. I tried picasa but the fact that it's sending private links that don't work after taking several hours of uploading photos, kinda ticked me off.

dA for image backup(I use dA's automatic obnoxious watermark feature so i can have my photos protected but still able to download the original file without such a copyright) and for photo critique, tutorials, group chats. heh heh
For me, the site/service being free was my number one priority.  ;D Each site has its features and while paying for a premium/pro account may save time with all the features available on a single account, if you rather not pay, like me, make accounts on several of these sites and use them when you need to.

Software & Accessories / Re: Starting out: Flickr? Picasa? PBase? Other?
« on: January 12, 2012, 11:42:57 PM »
^just modified my post the same time you posted!

Software & Accessories / Re: Starting out: Flickr? Picasa? PBase? Other?
« on: January 12, 2012, 11:32:55 PM »
I love deviantART because its unlimited in how many photos you upload and it has a storage and scraps feature too.

I used Flickr but I didn't like the limits for the free account. Same with Skydrive

I think for building an online portfolio, choose only your best images. heh heh for me sometimes what I think was the best image may not be so to the general public so sometimes I put a photo in scraps and participate in group critique night chats on dA and if there is a good response, I move it back to the main gallery. XD

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