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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:37:04 PM »
The dad of a friend of mine was at the 1952 winter Olympics in Norway waiting to watch skiers come down the slope.  Next to him sees this guy with a bunch of photography gear.  The guy asks him if he knows how to shoot a camera and would he take photos with one of his cameras as skiers go by so he gets some extra shots(camera all set up, just frame and push the button).  Turns out he's from Life Magazine! 

Long story short one of my friend's/dads "photos" ends up in Life Magazine.  Photographer sends him a thank you letter with a print of the photo.   It's debatable who the photographer was but in this case ownership definitely went to the pro/Life magazine.


See I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I shot some photos at a convention and then I needed to get photos of fellow peers in their costumes. My friend doesn't know photography to understand what the settings are. But anyways so I switched the lens, set the settings, the subject posed, and taught her how to focus. And let her have the pleasure of shooting the photo, knowing I'll fix everything in post as we needed to get photos of other people. And I let her take more photos, giving guidance on where to take, move the camera down etc.. And so afterwards I cropped for better composition, I edited, I retouched the subject and put my usual watermark on it. And the next thing I know, I'm getting grief about taking credit for the photo I didn't take.  :-[ But now I have to hand over all the credit. It's kind of a pain as I needed those photos. This is the true reason why I made this topic.

In the end though, I think I'll just give in and say I'm wrong for everything I did. It's not worth losing a friendship over, but I think I learned my lesson on letting others use my camera for such situations. Though the situation brought up the curious question to which this thread began.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:14:20 PM »
This post is opening up a lot of spin offs, I'm loving it :-)

This opened my mind to so many more interpretations. I love hearing all of them too.  ;D

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 18, 2012, 04:12:06 PM »
Hmmm...the legal ownership would definitely take this thread in a different direction than I was going to take it.

I'm curious as to what you were going to say. ;D

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »
Well, in your example, it's all in the circumstances. The owner of the camera, which also happens ot be the person that input the settings, is "the photographer of that photo," . . .no matter if a bird comes along and happens to land on the shutter button.

If I were to lend the camera to a person and that individual input settings and then took the picture with my camera, THAT person would be the photographer.

And if, let's say I input the settings, give the camera to another person so they can shoot the photo, do I retain ownership of the photo or no?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / What makes a photographer, a photographer?
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:05:12 PM »
Just outta curiosity.. I've always wondered.. ;D

Let's say you have a person who just set his camera for a shoot. He fiddled with the settings and walked off to blow his nose. Then his kid/cat/dog/friend pushes the shutter button.

The person later post processes all the pictures including the one he didn't "take".

Who is the photographer of that photo?

Just had a curious thought. heh heh

Software & Accessories / Re: Starting out: Flickr? Picasa? PBase? Other?
« on: January 13, 2012, 07:37:51 PM »
On using these type of sites as a backup..  and to add to my previous reply, I was really happy that I saved a file on dA. On Flickr, apparently you can't download the original pic without upgrading to a pro account. But on dA i was able to recover the photo, after accidentally wiping it off my hard drive before backing it up on an external drive.

I use flickr and skydrive for photos I only want certain people to see thanks to the "guest pass" or private links. I tried picasa but the fact that it's sending private links that don't work after taking several hours of uploading photos, kinda ticked me off.

dA for image backup(I use dA's automatic obnoxious watermark feature so i can have my photos protected but still able to download the original file without such a copyright) and for photo critique, tutorials, group chats. heh heh
For me, the site/service being free was my number one priority.  ;D Each site has its features and while paying for a premium/pro account may save time with all the features available on a single account, if you rather not pay, like me, make accounts on several of these sites and use them when you need to.

Software & Accessories / Re: Starting out: Flickr? Picasa? PBase? Other?
« on: January 12, 2012, 11:42:57 PM »
^just modified my post the same time you posted!

Software & Accessories / Re: Starting out: Flickr? Picasa? PBase? Other?
« on: January 12, 2012, 11:32:55 PM »
I love deviantART because its unlimited in how many photos you upload and it has a storage and scraps feature too.

I used Flickr but I didn't like the limits for the free account. Same with Skydrive

I think for building an online portfolio, choose only your best images. heh heh for me sometimes what I think was the best image may not be so to the general public so sometimes I put a photo in scraps and participate in group critique night chats on dA and if there is a good response, I move it back to the main gallery. XD

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: First Kodachrome, now Kodak?
« on: January 09, 2012, 11:36:22 PM »
What does that mean for AdoramaPix? What paper are they switching to?

Thanks for the advice! yeah i might wait a bit before selling it. By the way, how come this lens doesn't have a date code? i thought all L lens do.

Thanks neuro!  ;D

+1 in CL.  Just make sure you meet F2F.

Congrat!!! I too bought this lens that came from Amazon!! No difference with B&H.  Boxes were all beat up but when I open 70-200mm f2.8II it's BIG (REAL big) bigger than my 5D Mark 2!!! Lens is well packed so I was not too worried!! Enjoy your new toy!

Thanks! but what does CL and F2F stand for? XD

Neuro: Thanks for the link and tips! it seems that here the lens "new" is $180! but mine is used, in great condition though, for 2 years..

And thanks to all who answered. =D The lens is still icy cold and sweats when i touch it! I'm going to wrap it in a jacket. the room temperature is getting pretty chilly -for florida anyways. xD

I'm sitting next to the 70-200mm f/2.8 l is ii box that the UPS people delivered from B&H! First time ordering anything from B&h. bah, is it normal for the box to have punctures? but that would be ups' fault.

upon opening, the box is HUGE!(up to this point i have the canon rebel xsi with the 55-250mm, kit lens and the 50 f/1.8) I never have seen a lens box that big, but its lighter than i expected. and luckily the lens box didn't get punctured.

First impression of the lens: it is ICE COLD. I don't have the heater on (FL here) but hopefully no condensation forms. Fudge, condensation is appearing on the outside.  its been 30 mins since it was delivered. i think i'll keep it wrapped in plastic and in the bag. i don't know much about lens condensation except that it is bad. but the lens itself is a beauty! can't wait to try it out!

now I am thinking of selling the ef-s 55-250mm IS mk i. but i have no idea how to go about it like pricing, shipping (im thinking of craiglisting it to avoid shipping but that would mean smaller audience) and stuff. Tips?!

EOS Bodies / Re: tips on getting started shooting in raw?
« on: January 03, 2012, 06:40:18 PM »
Wow thank you for all your replies! =D But I don't think I am going to be buying new software at this point. Between Photoshop Elements 7.0 and DPP which is better for raw processing? haven't installed DPP yet..

EOS Bodies / tips on getting started shooting in raw?
« on: January 02, 2012, 03:09:03 PM »
I've always shot in JPEG. I've considered shooting in raw many times but based on things I've read like it will slow down continuous shooting mode and the hassle of of needing special software to edit/view and stuff made me avoid it.

But since I spend so much time editing anyways and reading all the pros about RAW is making me reconsider it.

Does it really slow down continuous shooting?

I haven't installed DPP yet but will processing raw images be better in DPP or Photoshop Elements 7.0?

any tips/resources on getting started in shooting in raw?

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