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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Upgrade advice: 6D or 5D2/3?
« on: November 15, 2012, 03:12:29 PM »
Given that none of us have the 6D, it's a bit of a stretch to figure which you should own. There are some professional features and video features that the 5D mark III has that the 6D does not. If you are more of a casual, hobby shooter which it looks like you are, you will not miss most of those. However, I do think the 6D is very limited for what it offers unless you really want wifi & gps. If not, I might even recommend the Nikon D600. It did a little better for me for landscape dynamic range. No one can pry my 5D mark III from my hands but I do think the D600 beats the 6D in that segment. I did a review between the 5Dmark III and D600:

Nikon D600 vs Canon 5D Mark III Fight!

You will need mostly new lenses anyway so switching systems isn't a problem. Like I said, I love the 5D mark III over anything Nikon offers, but I am really disappointed in the 6D specs and it probably won't beat the 5D mark III in quality so I doubt we will be blown away. Even the D600 beat the 5D3 in dynamic range which you need for landscapes. Nikon lets you push the shadows 3-4 stops with hardly any noise allowing HDR levels of dynamic range without shooting HDR. I wish my 5D3 allowed that. But I don't shoot landscapes so I prefer the 5D3.

Sorry for suggesting a Nikon on Canonrumers...but I am a Canon shooter and prefer canon, i'm just not a 6D fan yet. No dual cards, only 9af points, 1/180 sync speeds...stuff like that just makes me cringe. My 5D3 rocks though.

Lenses / Re: Canon Makes the EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Official
« on: November 06, 2012, 08:06:31 AM »
Except that many users have been calling for an updated 35 f2 for a long time now- both for full frame and crop. It looks like a great lens. The problem is the price. Don't judge everybody by your own standards.
Those who have been wanting an upgrade want one for a reasonable price. This is almost as much as the 35mm f/1.4L!!! Same with the 50mm f/1.4. I'm really afraid that Canon is going to put IS in it and charge $800 putting it way out of what most people want/need for a non-L lens. If they want to put IS and make an astonishing L lens for a ridiculous price than go for it. But the point of non-L lenses is to give good quality at a lower price and canon has abandoned this price point.

the 5D smokes the D600 in everything except DR where the Nikon wins.
Huh?  That video does not show 5D "smokes" D600.  For IQ, I would say they are about even with D600 having a bit better DR and 5D III a bit better high ISO performance.  $3500 vs. $2200 gets you more pro-like functionality, but for the hobbyist, the D600 produces impressive IQ.  Since I already have the 5D III, I can only hope the 6D can compete with D600 when it comes out..
I am not holding out much hope for the 6D. I think they went more consumerish with the body, design, and specs than Nikon did with the D600. I was really hoping for the 7D with a FF sensor & digic V chip and thought they could do that for under $2200. Nothing else needed to be changed. The size, build, ergonomics, speed, focusing, and resolution of the 7D are perfect and I don't need wifi & GPS built in. The 6D is really more of a FF 60D and the D600 more of a FF D7000 and the D7000 is more of a hobbyist/prosumer camera than the 60D. I'm loving my 5DmkIII but i'd really love a smaller/cheaper backup/family vacation camera that can still hold its own in a professional shoot like a wedding. I'm torn between keeping my 7D (love but not FF), getting a 5DmkII (slow & crap AF), or another 5DmkIII (large and expensive for a 2nd body).

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Is the 5d Mk III price drop official?
« on: October 24, 2012, 08:07:53 AM »
Even best buy dropped the price to that. They still say it is just a sale though and that they are trying to compete with online. Either way I bought one. $3750 for the kit seemed pretty good for a retail store with a good return policy

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D III, or 6D+7D combo - your thoughts?
« on: October 23, 2012, 12:28:40 PM »
I would not go with the 6d. It just really lacks as a pro body. The 5D mark III will easily replace your 7D with almost as fast frame rate, better DR, better low light, FF, dual card slots, and better focusing. I don't think the 6D focusing system will serve you. There are some reviews of the 7D & 5D mk iii vs some nikon cameras as well as a preview of the 6D of why I don't think the camera will serve you best if you want to take a look: http://www.youtube.com/user/learningcameras

I'd go with the 5D mark III...wait for a deal to get it around $3000 though.

I've got both cameras. I'll try to put up some ISO comparison tests and DR tests for you to take a look at if you think that will help. I just put the 7D against the Nikon D600 and the 5D mkIII against the D600 and in dynamic range, the D600 beat the 7D by alot but only inched ahead of the 5D mk III. In low light, ,the 5D beat the D600 by half a stop and the D600 beat the 7D by half a stop (raw files with no NR). You can take a look at the tests here:


Though it looks like the 7D did not fair quite as well (understandably). But the 5D3 is close in DR. Noise performance seems better too than the Nikon in his other video.

This is awesome for many users. I didn't see anything about lighting up the AF points like the 1Dx update had but maybe it will come. But even the features included take away 2 huge selling points of the D800 over the 5D3

Hey, found this video of the Canon 5D mark III vs Nikon D600. Basically, the 5D smokes the D600 in everything except DR where the Nikon wins.

Nikon D600 vs Canon 5D Mark III Fight!

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5d Mark III Shadow recovery
« on: October 11, 2012, 03:03:29 PM »
This video compares the D600 & 7D for shadow recovery and they also show a 5dIII file. It's clear to me that there is banding and grain in both the Canon shots more than the Nikon but only when viewed at 100% or more and only when pushing it all the way.
Nikon D600 Review Part 4 - Dynamic Range Testing...WOW!

EOS Bodies / Re: Looks like the 6D may not be so bad after all
« on: October 11, 2012, 09:28:11 AM »
2 Dead pixels in a brand new D600! Man, i'm really pissed that Canon had to cripple the 6D because the D600 has ALOT of issues like no aperture control in video live view, dead pixels, and some screen issues and Canon could have capitalized. Guess the 5D mark III will have to be my pro body as well as my spare/travel body :)

Nikon D600 Full Hands On Review & Test

EOS Bodies / Re: Looks like the 6D may not be so bad after all
« on: October 05, 2012, 03:34:09 PM »
What remains to be seen is if Canon can sell a $2200 consumer camera...which is basically what the 6D is. I don't see it having much of a place in a Pro photographers bag. The 6D will take great picture, but it is limited in its appeal unlike the D600 which satisfies enough professional features to make it a good 2nd body, backup, or even a 1st body for someone on a budget. I just don't like the ergonomics and video issues with the D600 were to big for me to ever get this camera even though I seriously considered it. This review just showed some things I can't get over. The 5D3 is the perfect camera for my shooting style and I thought maybe the D600, though lacking some features, could handle my shooting style for $1000 less. These videos seem like the answer is no...though the photo quality is awesome.

Nikon D600 Review Part 6 - Low Light, High ISO test...And a surprise problem

EOS Bodies / Looks like the 6D may not be so bad after all
« on: October 03, 2012, 04:38:16 PM »
I was down about the 6D but after seeing this review/comparison of the Nikon D600 from a Canon user, i'm definitely not switching:

Video Review: http://www.youtube.com/user/learningcameras?feature=watch

The quality on the D600 is great but there are a ton of issues including a dead pixel! He is even recommending not to buy it now. Guess i'll have to save for the 5D3.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 20, 2012, 02:07:43 PM »
Am I not the only who would prefer a DSLR with e.g. 7 dual-cross type AF-points over one with 1 dual-cross and 42 or so f/5.6 lines?
Nope, on my 5D3, I only turn on cross type. Don't even bother with non cross type points. Maybe for tracking a subject moving across the frame if you don't care about the composition you would want more, but I always follow my subject with the camera to keep the composition the same. And please keep the points further apart. I know the 6D only has 1 cross type, but with the Nikon D600, all the cross type points are located so close together, I don't know that it helps having 9

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D Center Cross-Type ?
« on: September 18, 2012, 03:03:52 PM »

11 points
Center: cross-type at f/5.6; vertical line-sensitive at f/2.8.
Upper and lower AF points: vertical line-sensitive AF at f/5.6.
Other AF points: Horizontal line-sensitive AF at f/5.6.

So does this mean that the center point is a cross-type point at 5.6 or 2.8?  Currently, I own a T3i and I know the center point become a cross-type point when using f/2.8 or faster lenses.  Otherwise, with my kit lens it acts a single type focus point.  I use the center point only and usually get recompose after gaining focus.  The 6D looks appealing if the cross-type point is activated at 5.6, but I'm just not sure on the wording here.  Any ideas?
It will be cross type with any 5.6 lenses and it will add an additional highly sensitive vertical line for f/2.8 and wider lenses. You don't want to recompose after focus if you are shooting with limited depth of field as your focus could go off and full frame cameras have less depth of field than the T3i (or other cropped sensor cameras) so you need to be more accurate with your focusing with a FF camera. When you recompose, you change the angle and can change the distance to the subject which will throw of your focus if you are shooting really shallow. This focus system is not appealing at all. Plus, if you are tracking anything such as for sports or wildlife, 11 points is not enough, especially when only 1 of those points is cross type.

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