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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price

« on: March 02, 2012, 02:02:31 PM »

The problem Canon has with pricing and sales will not be the Mark III. Most willing to pay $3000 will figure out a way of getting $3500. But for $700 more than the Mark II, the Nikon D800 is tempting. Personally I prefer the Mark III to the D800 (I prefer to have low light abilities and speed than MP), but the D800 is a more modest upgrade from current 5D mark II owners and offers improvements everywhere if you don't mind switching.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Introducing the Canon 5D Mark III

« on: March 02, 2012, 01:36:20 PM »

I must say I think Canon is going a bit high on the prices lately with the 5D Mark III, new flash, and 24-70. I still think they will sell plenty of the Mark III since it's such a great camera though I don't think they will see high sales on the 24-70mm f/2.8L II. As a 60D shooter looking to upgrade to full frame, the Mark III is WAY more expensive than I was looking though I have a concern with buying the Mark II. The Mark II is still a great camera but I feel like that greatness is only going to last another year. Once a new 7D hits, the Mark II will be lost similar to the Nikon D300 when the D7000 came out. It will go down in value FAST ($1000+ in the next 3 years) and be very difficult to sell. I feel like in 3 years, the Mark III will still be worth within $700 of the purchase price and still be a popular item for resale. As such, I would be better off financially when I sell or upgrade and get the benefit of a better body. Where am I wrong

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is the watch party working for you?

« on: March 01, 2012, 11:51:10 PM »

can't they do another live blog somewhere else? There are other services that do a live cast

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 02:23:17 PM »

If certainly looks to me like the camera features the same button-lock in the center of the mode dial, as on the 60D (and optional retrofit for the 5DII and 7D).  I'm not happy about this 'feature' since anything that slows down a mode change is annoying.

As a 60D user, I can tell you that after the first few times you use the camera you'll develop a new technique and muscle memory and you won't even notice the lock is there.  I change my modes on the fly without even thinking about the lock, I just think clicks (different modes).

As a 60D user also, it is REALLY annoying when switching from Manual mode where I shoot to video mode which is the extreme other end of the dial. Otherwise, I don't switch modes so the lock is not an issue but going from manual to video is a freaking pain.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 02:04:50 PM »

6/ And yes I would love to have a full frame with no Video, but better ISO and AF with a price that would not bring me to huge troubles about what-if I loose or break my camera-body.

I still hope for 5DMx could be it. ;-)

Yeah I guess a lot of us want that … but Canon won't hear it !!!

Sorry, you won't get this. Other than a mic input, onboard mic, and maybe one button, there are no other hardware differences between adding video and not. All the features are mostly software based so it doesn't add alot to the price. Just think, the Canon t2i does video just as well as the 5D mark II (minus the full frame) and canon didn't add more than $50 to the cost of the t1i. My 60D has full manual audio control as well and that is a cheap camera. It really does not add much to the price. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5d Mark III vs Nikon D800!!!

« on: March 01, 2012, 01:18:36 PM »

This is an easy one. The D800 is a Niche camera more than the Mark III based on the specs. As a result, the Mark III will beat the D800 in every area except raw resolution. If you wanted a medium format camera and want to push 30MP plus, GET THE D800! Everyone else, get the D700. If Nikon had upgraded the D700 instead of introducing a new breed of camera, the result may have been different.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 12:41:42 PM »

In my 5D i am comfortable with ISO 400. Just barely with ISO 800. So I use ISO 800 only when absolutely necessary. With the LR3 noise reduction i can clean up the noise well, but i feel it makes faces look plasticky a bit at ISO 800.
From all the photos i have seen, the 5D Mark II performance at ISO 800 is same as the ISO 400 performance of the 5D. That is a 1 stop improvement.
From the discussion i am expecting 5D Mark III to have 1 stop advantage at higher ISO to 5D Mark II. with that said i am expecting that ISO 1600 in 5D Mark III is as noisy as ISO 400 on 5D. So to me that is 2 stops advantage.
The question to you is which part of my logic is flawed / am mistaken in your opinion?

I think it may even be better. Canon managed a 1 stop increase from the 5D to the 5D mark II while just about doubling the pixels. With the same pixels on the sensor and the Digic V on board, you could see almost 2 stops improvement from the 5D mark II. Nikon got about 2 stops on the D700 when the introduced the D3S which had the same size sensor and same MP count so it is possible.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 12:28:57 PM »

There seems to be a lot of fanboys in this thread... hardware wise how much better really do you feel this is than the 5D mark II besides the DIGIC 5 (which handles the high iso and framerate) and the small increase in MP by the sensor?  If you pretend that this camera wasn't from Canon would you still feel the same way?

I don't care about the MPs. What I am excited about is that its a brand new processor that should have much better ISO performance. You forgot the biggest improvement of all: the AF system. I'm pumped about 61 points.

If you are asking if I would as excited about this camera if it was by Nikon I would have to honestly say "no". It's ok to say that. I don't have any money in the Nikon system. If they came out with this camera I would feel jealous. It isn't "fanboyism", it's just excitement about a fantastic camera that is part of a system I invested in. And I plan on buying one, absolutely.

I find it awesome that Nikon fanboys are hitting Canon for not having enough pixels. This from the manufacture that thought 12MP was plenty for PRO cameras even while Canons line ranged from 16-22 for similar cameras. Even the D3x only had 24MP and everyone thought this was too much. All the Nikon fans were complaining that Canon had too many pixels 2 years ago. Now they are back on the MP bandwagon with the D800 intro, even before any tests are in. Maybe they forgot that the new pro camera, the Nikon D4, is still only 16MP. Obviously Nikon thinks this is more than enough for Pro results. The D4 will be in production for at least 3-4 years too.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 12:24:01 PM »

Nobody has yet to answer my question:
How official is this list? Where did it come from? Is it everything or will Canon also include surprise stuff when it's announced?
What is the CR Rating on this?
Sorry cr guy but you kind of had a lapse when reporting on this. That or I missed something.

It is not official. It happens to go alone with the rumors which is a big reason why it is being thought of as legit but they could be filling it with viable placeholders for all we know...or just trying to get traffic.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 10:42:26 AM »

Am I the only one sorely disappointing by the lack of megapixels and substantially higher price? I love canon, but specs/price wise I am liking the D800 a little more. It would greatly pain me to switch. Tell me that there's truly another camera on the horizon... I will wait if I need to. I want Canon's DIGIC 5 and a crap ton of megapixels with the option to oversample if I like. Come on baby, this can't be all you got up your sleeve. I can't afford medium format nor the 1D series line... give me the goods in a 5D. Tell me this is your video 5D and there will be an upcoming 5D (with video still) but geared toward photography, call it a 5DX, it should see through the dark and have eagle vision.

More megapixels affects performance both in low light and speed. The decision to keep the MP at 22 was to improve those areas for the Mark III. It also will supposedly help video too but that remains unseen. The 5D series is typically an on the run shooter camera and needs speed and relatively small file sizes as people will average 2000+ shots for event type photography. They also work in low lit or badly lit environments where the option to bring lighting is not available. I'll agree, the 5D will not be as super as the D800 in the studio, but most of the customers are not. Buy the D800 if you really want a medium format camera but can't afford it or need better low light than medium format allows.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?

« on: March 01, 2012, 09:37:25 AM »

All right people. I really need an honest opinion here. I was shooting Nikon D5100 up till now and was hoping to upgrade to full frame by the end of this year.
To begin with, I had both the D800 and the 5D Mark 3 on my wish list. I mean I really don't have a huge investment in terms of the lenses, and I'll always get some return when I sell of my present gear (In case I decide to go with canon).
I need opinion on this because if I do go with canon on the mark 3, then i'll also get L lenses, and the investment then is going to be substantial. So its going to be a long term commitment. And the tech guide on the D800 kinda scared me a bit with all the chatter involving image blur with the slightest movement because of the "high resolution". And I'm also not sure about its iso performance in comparison to the D700.
Suggestions please guys..?? What would be a better camera for me. I mean we cant really say much until both the cameras are out and have been thoroughly reviewed. But going by the spec list...?? Which way should I go..??

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* Here's an Invite for March 2, 2012

« on: February 29, 2012, 02:02:02 PM »

I actually think most of our proposed specs have been modest. If canon sticks with a 22MP camera, we already know that they can produce great images at 22MP as the 5D mark II and 1D mark III pull this off. We know it will have a digic V which has proven to give better low light and faster performance. With 22MP, low light will only be better that the previous 5D even if Canon does not do anything revolutionary. At 22MP, the Digic 5 will give at least 5-6fps, again, without Canon doing anything revolutionary. Canon has 3 focus systems to chose from, the 7D system, 1D mark IV system, and the new 1DX system, all which will be way better than what the 5D currently has.
New would be a headphone jack (shouldn't be hard)
Dual CF/SD cards (even the nikon D7000 has dual card slots...no brainer. )
and that is it.

That is really a refresh more than a new camera. If canon is revolutionary, it will have 1080P video at 60fps, pro level autofocus, 7-8fps, DX mode, and uncompressed HDMI out.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Here's an Invite for March 2, 2012

« on: February 29, 2012, 08:38:39 AM »

What time would that be in the US? Eastern time?

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EOS Bodies / Re: The new 5D Mark III ?!?! PICS!

« on: February 28, 2012, 07:37:57 PM »

There is way too much silence. We got couple of pictures of the camera and direct contact with someone using it 3 days before the release and now complete silence. I am seriously beginning to doubt a Friday release unless the chatter picks up. The cameras are definitely out there but typically the Canon police would not be cutting out the chatter this close to the announcement. I remember alot of cameras that had full spec sheets leaked out by this time. If a announcement was still a month or more away, there would be a good reason for Canon to want to keep everyones lips tight

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* The Next 5D on March 2, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 28, 2012, 03:28:20 PM »

Just wondering if anyone has heard rumors or has insight into on-camera GPS for the 5Dmk3.  I know the 1DX has the add-on module, and I was hoping the mk3 would have integrated or an optional add-on, but don't see anything in the photos.  While some may consider this unnecessary, I like the fact that if I go on vacation all of the photos I have from my iPhone or Panasonic P&S have the GPS info on them and can be plotted, but my t2i requires complicated finagling and using my iPhone.  This is something Nikon has had available for awhile, and would be a great addition to a camera like this.  Totally fine with an add-on unit so that those that don't want it, don't have to have it, I'd just like the option.

It would probably be an add on unit. There are issues with taking GPS modules with cameras in to some countries. Cameras like the 5D and 1D series often make it into these remote countries where secrecy is important.