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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 01:00:22 PM »
I don't understand why some people continue to argue the point that the 1Ds and 1D have merged.  Is it because they are hanging onto hope? 

I honestly see this as a good sign for those who need high MP yet not all of the bells and whistles of the 1DX.  Why?  Because I see this as a possible future for Canon DSLRs.

1DX:  A sports and photojournalist camera that is the flagship for Canon DSLRs. $6800 (Correct my price if I'm wrong, I thought I read that in the release.)
5DMIII:  This is where your big MP, FF camera comes in at.  What were we thinking, 24-32?  $3500-$3800
6D:  Rumors have been out about a cheaper FF option.  Why not put your 1DX sensor in this?  $2800-$3000
7D/7DII:  Continue on with the line as it is a beautiful seller and great camera: $1800-$2100
60D/70D:  Last I heard, the 60D was easily outselling the T3i.  I'm guessing the line continues:  $1000

I have to agree.  With the way that the 5D II ate into the sales of the 1Ds III, because the sensors were so similar, I figured Canon had to do something to differentiate them for the next release.

It will certainly be interesting to see how things shake out with the 5D II replacement.  I'd certainly like to see some of the 1D X features, such as Multiple Exposure (I don't expect 9 exposures, of course) and chromatic aberration correction.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:13:34 PM »
So when will we see the DXs ?? Logic says its there. DS3 is still the highest rated camera on the Canon official site.  Also European Pricing suggests that putting the mk4 at 4000 euro and the ds3 still at 6000.

So funny just realized that the ds3 is not on the UK site but still on the Spanish site.... hmmmmm

They just updated the order on the USA site.  The 1D X is now first, followed by the 1Ds III, etc.

I just checked the usa site and it's #4 on the list below the 1D mark III and above the 5d 2.  ?

Perhaps we're looking at two different pages or, as Neuroanatomist suggested, you need to hit Refresh.  Here's the link to the page I was viewing:


EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 11:50:26 AM »
So when will we see the DXs ?? Logic says its there. DS3 is still the highest rated camera on the Canon official site.  Also European Pricing suggests that putting the mk4 at 4000 euro and the ds3 still at 6000.

So funny just realized that the ds3 is not on the UK site but still on the Spanish site.... hmmmmm

They just updated the order on the USA site.  The 1D X is now first, followed by the 1Ds III, etc.

Canon General / Re: Photography - Equipment or Skill ?
« on: October 18, 2011, 11:30:23 AM »
Unfortunately photography is one profession that anyone can just buy a camera and become a photographer. Does it mean they are good at it..no.....You can't buy a stethoscope or scalpel and just become a doctor, or buy new golf clubs and become tiger woods immediately or buy a fast car and become a Nascar driver....these things take time to learn and actually perfect the skills needed to perform.

A camera is a camera, most people that start new photography businesses don't even know how to use their own camera. Lots shoot and let the camera make all the decisions.

There is a difference between just taking photos of people or things that happen to be in front of you and trying to genuinely create something amazing through direction, use of light, angles etc. Photography is all about the light, for landscapes it's being there at sunrise or sunset. For people it's posing skills, making them feel comfortable and being able to see the good light and using it to your advantage to make them look their best, plus picking the right lens to compliment your subject whatever or whomever it may be. For weddings it's the same except you usually have a time restriction during your days.

If you can't see the light or create it, know how to compose, know how and take the time to learn and actually be able to use the camera to it's fullest, or know how to interact with and direct your clients and know how to use light on your subjects creatively to make a killer photo then a new 7000 dollar camera isn't going to really help you.

Well stated!

BTW, I think your quote should be:

"You can't buy a stethoscope, scalpel or golf clubs and just become a doctor..."   ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III [CR1]
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:00:33 AM »
Okay, so now that we know what the 1D X has, what does that mean for the 5D Mark III?  Will the MP decrease?  (Is the megapixel war really over?)  Will the auto-focus and FPS improve?

Canon General / Re: New EOS GPS & Bluetooth/Wifi Addon Introduced
« on: October 17, 2011, 11:45:56 PM »
Something that should've been inside the 1D X in the first place.

If it was inside, then they couldn't charge extra for them!  ;)  If people don't buy them, then perhaps they'll get the idea...

Canon General / Re: "Holy cow. Time to throw my 7D in the bin."
« on: October 17, 2011, 09:10:34 PM »
The original 5D didn't have "live" view (that's why I didn't buy it).  Does the 5D2 have a better focusing system that the original?  Nope.  Do you want GPS or Wifi on your 1D/1Ds Series or 5D2?  Well then you need to buy an adapter.  OTOH, did the original iPods have built-in FM tuners?  No, you had to buy an add-on.  Is there a built-in Optical drive on the MacBook Air?  Nope.  Does the iPad have a built-in USB port or SD-card slot?  No, you need an adapter or, in the case of USB, you can use the included proprietary cable.  So please don't tell me that Apple devices include *every* feature or does things the best way possible for their consumers.  They, like Canon, do what's best for their bottom line.

Both companies know that by leaving out certain features, they can get us to buy add-ons and/or a newer version down the road.  And they know we'll keep coming back, because we've been doing it for years or decades.  Only until we stop buying, will they be forced to change.  Of course, if they ever built the "perfect" device, we'd never have to buy another one and then they would go out of business.  So that's why we get incremental, instead of monumental, changes.  Does that mean we have to buy each new version?  No (I certainly didn't).  We will still complain about it?  You betcha!  :D

Canon General / Re: Photography - Equipment or Skill ?
« on: October 12, 2011, 03:24:40 PM »
Probably most people in the world can't be taught to throw a 100 mile an hour fastball or even 80. And there are plenty of minor league ball players that have dedicated their hearts and souls into getting into the majors but never do. And there are plenty that can't even make it into the farm system. It's nice to think that sheer will gives everybody the same chance. But the truth is that there's a lot of physiological variation between people. You wouldn't say that everybody in the major league is number one but they all have the ability to outperform most of the world in that sport.

Body and mind.  Apples and oranges.  Sorry, but you really can't compare the two.  You can't learn to be 6' tall -- believe me, I've tried!  ;)  In any case, physical ability doesn't necessarily translate into success, so the point is moot.

As Hillsilly correctly pointed out, not everyone has the will power/drive/desire to get up early in the AM and do what it takes to become the best.  That is what separates the best from everyone else.

Canon General / Re: Photography - Equipment or Skill ?
« on: October 12, 2011, 01:37:48 AM »
It's not arrogance or nonsense and it's not something you can spell out in a formula. Just apply this same idea to any art form and art history. Are you saying that anybody can pick up a camera and learn to be Ansel Adams or Henri Cartier Bresson? That anybody can eventually become Beethoven or Bach? That anybody can learn to become Albert Einstein? That is the golden touch. Call it a random mutation or a gift from the gods. Whether undiscovered or developed late in life, some have it and some don't but, of course and obviously, there's also a spectrum of artists and ability in-between.

Quote from: Orangutan
Sorry, pet peeve: I have to respond to this nonsense.

  • Would you care to provide some proof of this?  Show me some well-designed scientific studies to show that people cannot "learn" or "develop" ability as artists.
  • Define "talent."  If you consider it innate, please explain how degrees of talent can be distinguished in newborns or toddlers, and how early identification of talent can be correlated to great work later in life.
  • How would you classify someone who started painting only late in life (as my great-grandmother did in her 70's)?  Would you say that was latent talent or developed skill?  How could you tell the difference?  Or would you simply manipulate your definitions to suit?

While it is certainly true that people are born with inherent differences, it is the height of arrogance to proclaim that some are gifted with the golden touch, while others are forever doomed to live the mediocre and drab life of the non-artist.

Being great at something doesn't require being a prodigy, it simply takes more time and effort.  No, not everyone can be a Beethoven composing symphonies at the age of 5, but if you have the desire and passion for something, you can learn how to be great.  As for Ansel Adams, it was his passion for nature that led him to learn photography.  It's not as if he was "great" overnight, but don't take my word for it:

"My photographs have now reached a stage when they are worthy of the world's critical examination. I have suddenly come upon a new style which I believe will place my work equal to anything of its kind."
-- Ansel Adams, 1927 (6 years after his first photographs were published).

Lenses / Re: Any comparisions of wide angle shots around?
« on: October 09, 2011, 12:07:39 PM »
There are threads for various lenses located here:


You can also check out the Canon Forums on fredmiranda (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/2) and dpreview (http://www.dpreview.com/products/canon/lenses -- click on a lens and then click on the "User images" tab).  You can also do searches on photo sites, such as flickr.

EOS Bodies / Re: Shooting in manual
« on: October 07, 2011, 06:49:57 PM »
I was forced to shoot in manual yesterday, too much backlighting was going to result in poor exposures, and it was much easier to use manual exposure.  I could have used exposure compensation, but I found it easier to use manual.

How about spot metering mode?

United States / Re: What should my first prime lens be?
« on: October 04, 2011, 01:19:49 PM »
I own the EF 50mm f/1.4 and use it on a 5D Mark II (Full Frame).

The advantages of the EF 50mm f/1.4 over the EF 50mm f/1.8 II:
  • Two-thirds of a stop faster, so it lets in a bit more light when shot wide open.  This helps to blur the background more, but the difference isn't huge.
  • Has an 8-bladed diagram versus 5-bladed, which makes for more pleasing* bohkeh (out of focus objects are a bit rounder).
  • Somewhat better build quality.  The f/1.4 can be a bit fragile, because of it's "micro" USM motor (try not to drop it!), but the f/1.8's body is completely plastic, including the mount.

Another option is the original EF 50mm f/1.8, which was made from 1987 through 1990 (often referred to as the "Mark I").  It has better build quality than the current version, including a metal mount, plus it has a distance scale.  You can find them for sale on ebay and other places (fredmirdanda.com, for instance).  Don't go paying $200 for one, though.  I got one for my cousin last month for $120.

Do some searches on each lens (dpreview.com, fredmiranda.com, etc.) for reviews and sample shots.  Go to a camera shop and try 'em out.  No one else can tell you which will be best for you.  Just remember:  a "better" lens (or camera) doesn't take a better picture.  It's what you do with it!  :)

As for lens compatibility, if you think you may go to "full frame" in the future, then buy "EF" mount lenses, instead of "EF-S."  Canon's EF lenses will work on any "EOS" SLR, film or digital, while EF-S lenses work only on APS-C digital SLRs, like the 60D, 7D and all the digital Rebels.  The only issue there may be if you want something "ultra-wide" (less than 24mm).  Due to the 1.6x crop factor, EF lenses don't provide as wide an angle of view on a APS-C body, as they do on a full frame body.  For example, a 20mm EF lens is equivalent to 32mm on an APS-C body (20 x 1.6 = 32).  Therefore, all the EF 50mm lenses are 80mm on the 60D!

* - Everyone's opinion is different.

Canon General / Re: Photography - Equipment or Skill ?
« on: October 03, 2011, 11:11:58 PM »
Quote from: Grand Moff Tarkin
This bickering is pointless!

Every photographer has a different level of expertise and will therefore have different requirements from their equipment.  For a "true artist," the camera is probably no more than a canvas and the lens, their brush and paint.

Trying to explain the relationship via percentages is like ... trying to explain why the sky is blue.

Quote from: The 6 O'Clock News
This just in!  Scientists discover why the sky is blue.  Film at 11.


Fine, here's a percentage.  It's 100% Art.   ;)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 650d or 70d
« on: October 01, 2011, 03:28:08 PM »
Canon is very tight-lipped about new releases, so there's no way of knowing when the next xxxD or xxD body will come out.  However, as you pointed out, the xxxD line has consistently been on an annual update schedule, so the next one will probably come out early next year.  IMO, I doubt the releases of the pro bodies (xD) is going to affect the "consumer" ones (xxxxD and xxxD).  The "pro-sumer" line (xxD) is another story, as it may have switched to a 2 year schedule, irregardless of the xD schedule.

When the original 5D came out, I decided to wait, because it didn't have a feature that I wanted (live view).  I ended up waiting 3 years for the 5D Mark II to be released.  Of course, I had a 35mm SLR that I was happy with, so I could afford to wait.  In the end, I was glad I waited; you're actual happiness may vary... ;)

Have you been to a camera shop to try out the 60D or perhaps even rented it?  Maybe it does everything you need it to do?  Remember, no camera will be perfect.  There will always be a new one with some new feature down the road...

A common recommendation you'll see here is that if you need it now, buy it.  If you already have a camera and you are okay with using it for 4-6 more months, then perhaps you can afford to wait.  Maybe there's something happening in the next 3 months (vacation, someone's wedding, etc.) and you can't wait.

So, ask yourself:  do I need it now?

EOS Bodies / Re: A Loose Roadmap [CR1]
« on: October 01, 2011, 11:48:21 AM »
A new 50mm 1,4 (with a real USM) would be quite nice...

+1,000,000!  :D

The 50mm f/1.4 is one the older lenses in Canon's lineup and, yes, the micro USM really needs to go (had mine repaired last summer).  I'm also hoping, as with most of the updated lenses released in the past few years, that it gets a shorter MFD.  The 28mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.8 are of similar ages (all three are in the 1992-1995 range), but at least they have ring USM and better build quality.

The 35mm f/1.4L is the most likely candidate, as all of the other sub-telephoto "L" primes have already been replaced/updated.  The long-rumored update to the 24-70mm f/2.8L is another possibility.

As for the non-USM EF lenses (35mm f/2, 24mm f/2.8, etc.), I don't see them getting updated anytime soon.  They certainly don't qualify as “higher end short focal lengths," as the posted rumor states.

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