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EOS Bodies / Re: Big 5D Mark II Price Drops in Canada & USA
« on: November 01, 2011, 11:24:17 AM »
Do you have the link to this page?  I am very close to purchasing a 60D.

Pricing at B&H and Amazon reflects the instant rebate, which runs through 11/23.

Adorama also has the update price for the rebate... Gotta love rebate season.  =)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big 5D Mark II Price Drops in Canada & USA
« on: November 01, 2011, 11:20:59 AM »
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I noticed on the canon USA website at least that the 5D2 rebate has been removed... They have a 60D and a T3 rebate plus lenses rebates so I would guess that if website haven't been updating their prices, they will be soon unless canon extends the rebates

Do you have the link to this page?  I am very close to purchasing a 60D.

Thanks! -- Steven

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer?pageKeyCode=53

Hope this helps...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big 5D Mark II Price Drops in Canada & USA
« on: November 01, 2011, 10:44:35 AM »
I noticed on the canon USA website at least that the 5D2 rebate has been removed... They have a 60D and a T3 rebate plus lenses rebates so I would guess that if website haven't been updating their prices, they will be soon unless canon extends the rebates

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Lenses / Re: Canon 24/105mm f/4L IS USM vs Canon 24/70mm f/2.8L USM
« on: November 01, 2011, 10:23:03 AM »
This conversations and comparison has been beaten to death as much as the 7D/5D conversation has if not more... 2 trains of thought... first, people say if you need 2.8, the 24-105 just cant do that and IS wont freeze motion... then again 2.8 to 4 is only 1 stop and wont really freeze motion any more than f4 UNLESS f4 is really on the cusp and you need 2.8 to get that extra little bit... Secondly, 2.8, especially on full frame cameras is still razor thin, especially on the long end, so yeah you can freeze (maybe) people dancing at a reception but you have difficulties getting the eyes in focus due to the low light and constant motion...  Is the 2.8 really an advantage then?  I've tested samples of both lenses in my studio for a good week... IQ between the two are negligible and dont forget extra heft and bulk... To be fair, I really dislike how both lenses extend when zooming... I prefer internal zooming when possible... and at least the 24-70 hood protects the lens when zooming, but then you get the reverse zoom which isn't for me either... To me I compromised and got the 24-105 as it's the lesser of two evils and i'm not afraid of using flash to get more light.   

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D3 Release Date Poll (and your thoughts)
« on: November 01, 2011, 10:03:23 AM »
Given they ANNOUNCED the 1dx now and it wont even be available til march 2012, I could see the 5D announced sometime near/after march 2012 but not released until summer/fall 2012 (just in time for photokina)... Heck it better not come out soon, I just bought my 5d II with the rebates...  =)  All seriousness, the 1dx delay in release must hint at production slowdown/problems/concerns, so a new 5d3 to mass produce probably wont be as quickly as anyone would be hoping for. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D mark III on November 3rd? (VOTING POLL)
« on: October 27, 2011, 09:57:38 PM »
It better not, just bought my mark 2 off a steal.

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EOS Bodies / Re: How weather resistant is a 5DMK2 really?
« on: October 26, 2011, 01:55:00 PM »
Pardon my ignorance, but does anyone know of a good source (whitepaper/backgrounder/etc.) that explains weathersealing and shockresistance.

I know Canon doesn't say much other than vague statements (no doubt to avoid liability) and I've watched the great video of the low-end Canon and Nikon cameras being absolutely destroyed, but I do get a bit confused about this whole issue.

Do people seriously take their cameras out in rainstorms and shoot with no protection? Are we talking about just getting a little surface moisture on a camera from a light mist, or are we talking about full-on downpours? I think I remember seeing an article once about a National Geographic shooter covering a dye festival in India and then hosing his 1 series camera off afterward.

I admit I tend to baby my equipment as far as moisture goes, although I've hard my share of accidental drops, bangs and bashings.

Just curious what the parameters are or if there is any knowledgeable source of information on this subject.

Shock Resistance, I could not tell you... worst cases I've had personally is my toddler grabbing my 7D off the kitchen table and dropping it about 2-3 feet to the floor... No damage and kept plugging along (after I let my heart settle a bit)... Water resistance I think DPR has diagrams of where the weather sealings/gaskets are on cameras they review... As far as other tests or more authoritative info on exactly how much water is allowed and this and that, I'm afraid the University of Google is your best bet if you can find that info... I've taken my 7D in snow storms and light rain without protection and haven't had a problem... I vaguely remember reading one guy who brought a bunch of 5d II's to Antarctica on a photo expedition on boats and whatnot (shortly after the 5d 2 was released) and had failures galore saying moisture got into the battery compartment (on gripped bodies) and they had to remove the battery grips and or let them dry overnight... I think he said most worked after they dried but some didn't... I guess I'd err on the side of common sense... If in doubt, protect your gear. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: How weather resistant is a 5DMK2 really?
« on: October 26, 2011, 10:12:18 AM »
Like neuro, the 5d II is equivalent if not maybe a hair better sealed than the 50D/60D... The 7D i have been able to shoot well in a snow storm or two and haven't thought twice about shooting in light rain (even though I made sure to get it in dry conditions as soon as possible after shooting... The 5d II being like the xxD series, I've had my xxd cameras fail on me when shooting in high heat and high humidity... (no rain)... They would cease functioning until I got them in a dry A/C room to cool and dry off.  I dont think it would be as bad if you were shooting with sealed L lenses... (less rain to get into the internals and sensor) but still it's taking your chances... As a bit of very cheap insurance, carry a spare plastic grocery bag with you... when needed, rip a hole in it, slide the very end of the lens through the hole, bonus if you have a rubber band to seal the bag, and shoot until you're done... Dont overstay your welcome and get dry ASAP but if a freak raincloud pops up you're covered. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Feedback on 1D X from 1-series users?
« on: October 25, 2011, 10:26:01 AM »
So take the FF image and crop it in PS to whatever size you want. You will still end up with a better APS sized image than an APS sized sensor would give you.

Crop sensors have their place in the world as well... If you take a 21mp full frame photo, crop it down to 8 mp (the average size comparable to a crop camera) and compare that image or even up size to a 18mp 7D image or even better take a 7D image and downsize it to the cropped 21mp photo, the 7D photo would come out smelling like a rose... The 7D cant hold a candle to the full frame full raw photo vs full raw photo, but there are it's advantages and disadvantages... Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D mrk. II
« on: October 24, 2011, 04:20:03 PM »
You know, after reading this thread, it got me thinking... what else would we really want this camera to do?  GPS?  WIFI?  make coffee?  seriously?  It makes me wonder if Canon will ever start invoking the old VW model where they pump out a basic shell of a camera for real cheap that has what most people would want to function but offer add ons... Want an 18MP sensor?  ok that's an additional $200... Want an 21mp sensor?  $250, etc... you want basic AF, comes equiped... You want 19PT AF... an additional $200 unlocked through optional firmware... you want 45 pt... etc... To be honest I cant think of what else I would want my camera to do that's not already included and this could be exactly what could make most people happy... offer options that are either user replaceable or software replaceable... Computers you can change/add memory, if you're savvy enough you can change your own chips, boards, etc... you can customize them to your hearts delights... I could add more jobs at authorized camera stores to do these upgrades for you (like computer store upgrades) and people pay for what they want to use... Just floating the idea..  Red in some fashion employs a similar philosophy... why not evolve the camera industry to do the same...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Feedback on 1D X from 1-series users?
« on: October 24, 2011, 11:23:11 AM »
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More viewpoints are certainly welcome and appreciated!

As a 20 year EOS veteran, a published photographer and a CPS member since that program started I can tell you that nobody at Canon ever stepped forward to ask my opinion on what the next OS should be. I have no idea where they get their market research, but it would be nice if they actually asked us what we'd like. I love the EOS form factor, but I won't but a 1Dx simply because it doesn't do what I need or want. I want a ~45mp sensor that has incredible 645 beating quaility as 100iso. I always light my subjects, so don't care about high iso, a useable max 1600 is just fine for me.

I understand where you're coming from... Like you, I've been using the EOS system for almost 15 years or so give or take, published and had my photography shown on TV and the Olympics, and a CPS member.  I have received a few different surveys from canon asking what I was in the market to buy, my opinions or whatever... I get them maybe once ever 6-12 months or so.  I dont know if they come from Canon CPS or some other marketing dept but it is what it is... While I would have liked to see a better (higher MP) sensor in the 1dx, this camera isn't one I'd be buying.  While I like using the best gear I can afford, I'm a minimalist at heart and had beaten into me since young the concept of needing vs wanting... I want to buy a 1dx (or 1d series in general) but I dont need it for my clients and my work so I get by with what I can. 

I second neuros thoughts about those who complain about the 1dx being those who are not really in the market for a 1d camera but worries about what it could mean towards other "lower" cameras... Until I see directly how other cameras get affected (when the 5d3 and 70D and 7D2 comes out), I wont lose one minute of sleep worrying. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mkll. Where to purchase
« on: October 20, 2011, 11:40:00 AM »
@awinphoto... I'm sure you've stumbled upon this website: www.the-digital-picture.com but I thought I would cover the bases anyhow.  It's a good resource for researching canon stuff.

I have a 7D and a 1Ds3... with my 7D, I can't take advantage of the wide angle range on my L lenses and getting true aperture/dof.  That's the only thing that bugs me.  However, I love how responsive and low-profile the 7D is compared to the 1Ds3.  Sorry, I know you asked about the 5D2 but I thought that I could add whatever I could anyways.  I really love my 7D's AF and AE systems.  I've been holding out for a 5D3 in hopes that Canon incorporates all the 7D details with the 5D3 full frame.  Good luck with your situation.

Thanks for your comments.  I was aware of the site and the wide angle situation... Before the 5d2 came out I was saving for it, then of course life happened, car had issues, money got depleted, and hence I ended up with the 7D's... =)  Dont get me wrong, I love the 7D... It's served me and my clients well so far, and I hear these jabs here and there "of the 7D isn't as good as the 5D because of... "  "the 7D isn't a pro camera..."  yada yada yada... I use it professionally and I do plan on making a jump to full frame when possible.. It's a fine camera but there are trade off's for both cameras... Ideally a 7D with a full frame sensor would be my perfect camera but the longer this goes out and all the chatter that goes on gets discouraging... I feel somehow if I dont get it now it'll never happen given how the economy and life is... especially with the record low prices... But then again I get gun shy and if it's really not that worth it, I find myself talking myself out of it... hmmmm....  Plus when the 5d3 comes out the 5d2 would be new enough where i could recoup most my losses on it... maybe...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mkll. Where to purchase
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:59:58 AM »
Hey guys... I'm just going to throw this out there... I have a 7D... I have/had money set aside for a downpayment for a house we are looking to buy and extra for a 5d mark III... The longer and longer this draws out the more and more tempted I am just to buy the 5d 2 now (and possibly trade-in/liquidate once the mark 3 comes out) and basically spend that money before it gets allocated somewhere else (i.e. kids, christmas, house, life, etc...) and I wont have that money as readily available whenever this sucker pops out... So with all that being said... Yes the 5d2 has a better sensor (fullframe) than the 7D for the most part and has slightly better ISO performance... is there any other feature that the 5d2 has that the 7D doesn't?  Is the quality SOOO heads and shoulders better than the 7D that I should plop down the $2k now while I can get it at this price or is the difference really so small i should wait?  Nothing's wrong with my 7D and I plan on keeping it as a backup camera, but... Honest opinions welcome.. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:19:03 PM »
Why on earth would you need 30+ MP for a studio shoot? So you can print stuff on the sides of buildings?

As a matter of fact yes. Go to Macfly's website and you'll see that he does shoot images (movie promos, mainly) that do indeed go on the sides of buildings.

Seriously folks, it's bad enough to flame people, but flaming people without having a clue what their history and needs are is just ignorant.

There are a lot of reasons for solid use of a 30+MP camera... As everyone I'm sure has read from me before, I'm a huge proponent for more MP, but with that being said, I also understand there's a place for every camera and every use... As i've mentioned before, in film days, a 35mm camera rarely was printed at anything bigger than 8x10... even at 8x10, with good old tri-x film (ISO 400), you could see some grain.  Sometimes you would be daring and ask your lab (or push it in the darkroom) and pump out 11x14's, but you knew you were going to lose quality... Professional photographers knew and had in their back pocket MF cameras or even large format cameras for bigger prints...

Now adays with cameras we can pump out 16x20 practically without any interpolation with the 5d/7d printing at 300dpi.  I have shot murals with my 7D that were put on tradeshow booths (20 feet wide) however they were still lifes and I was able to shoot the large scene in sections and stitch together to build a native file without any interpolation.  Larger MP's would mean that I could do that with less stitching and make things essentially quicker, better, higher profit margin, however I hope that we keep in mind the limitations of the 35mm format and if you have the rare need for super large images, not to expect a 35mm to pull that off but instead look at MF with digital backs or LF with digital/scanning backs instead. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 03:31:35 PM »
Direct quote from Dan Carr's web-site...  are you going to tell him to get a clue???

yep i do exactly that.

of course 1/500s or 1/2000s would be nicer then 1/250s.

but 1/250 or 1/300s that´s just a matter of more flash output, smaller aperture, a ND filter etc. and not a dealbreaker.

This goes back to strobe and exposure 101... first of all, the strobe, in most situations, should be fast enough to freeze action and so that brings up the situation of darkening the ambient to match your situations... ND filters, polarizing filters, lowest ISO possible, etc... assuming you're trying to underexpose sunny 16, ISO 100 at 1/250 at f16 is 1 stop under... add a ND filter or polarizing filter and that's a few more stops... there you go... how much more underexposed do you want?  Lastly, minimum shutter speeds has always been an issue with shutter curtains (not so much with leafs)... It isn't like in the good ol film days where some where at 1/30... remember those dinos?

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